Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

[Justmerach]

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

I am not confused, you do not believe in the incarnation and that is up to you.

Moving on-
It is how strange how it seems some peope who not believe in the rescurrection of Christ, are keen to believe that David who was a mortal being and has returned to dust on earth will now redeem the Jews.

Quote " It is how strange how it seems some peope who not believe in the rescurrection of Christ, are keen to believe that David who was a mortal being and has returned to dust on earth will now redeem the Jews."

Well I don't believe that. So I assume you are talking about Jews who believe in their religion.

So you think it's strange that practicing Jews believe in their own religious prophecies about a descendent becoming a King, but it's not strange that a different sect used the same prophecies, that don't fit, to try to make their religion ?

I’m not confused! I understand how a baby is conceived and born - I have two of them!

No, I am not referring to Jews who believe in their religion. It seemed like the argument you can imply from how some people argue who are outside of that faith.

Your logic does not follow. Just because I do not believe one thing does not mean I believe something else near totally unrelated.

" It was the holy spirit" has likely been claimed by people who do not understand the birds and the bees.

There are loads as we know. It seems popular with Nuns for some reason.

The Old Testament had a history of women who were female prophets of God. Although the society was traditional and most women took of the role of being a mother of children. There were women who served in the ministry for God. This was their role and they had a leadership role over all sometimes. Being a true prophet can only be ordained by God to give a revelation for him in the times of the Old Testament.

“Miriam was a prophetess (Exodus 15-20) So to was Deborah in the Old Testament a prophetess (Judges 4:4). Deborah was a prophetess and judge and she led the children of Israel to peace for forty years by her prophesies she gave to Barak to go to battle against Sisera. Huldah was also a prophetess (2 Kings 22:14) (2 Chronicles 34:22). Huldah was sought out by King Josiah to authenticate the Book of Law. In the Old Testament Noadiah is also a female prophetess (Nehemiah 6:14). Herbert Lockyer in his book "All the Women of the Bible" (pg 41) describes prophets and prophetesses as being the media between God and his people Israel in the Old Testament. Esther was conscreated for a ministry role, although not a prophet of God.” I wrote this.

There was also women in the ministry in the New Testament also. In (Galatians 3.28) says that there is no man or woman before God and that we are all equal before God. The scripture you referenced was for women who were not serving in the ministry asking them to be not argumentative in church. Jesus gives women ministry roles today himself using the Gifts of the Holy Spirit and he appoints their roles in the church to. The church I attend has 3 female permanent rectors and 1 part time female rector and two men who are part time. It was a female rector who blessed the Holy Sacraments using the Holy Spirit which gave me healing for a nervous condition. I myself am a female and have served to in the church in my teens.

In the New Testament, Anna (Luke 2:36) was referred to as a prophetess. So to did Philip the evangelist have four daughters who were prophetesses (Acts 21:3).

(Ephesians 4:11)
“ And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;”

Off on a bit of a tangent, but related because it is about reincarnation, the PRC government passed a law in 2007 requiring Tibetan Buddhas to get government permission to re-incarnate.

Just posting this here because I armchair follow this sort of stuff, and it might be of interest. This law is against the principles of freedom of religion of course, and the linked state media article here is trying to justify the law in a historical context.

Government approval required for reincarnation of grand Living Buddhas, expert says - Chinadaily.com.cn

I think from a philosophical point of view it is really interesting. Because you have the CPC, an officially atheist organization, legislating the supernatural.

So for anyone wanting evidence of supernatural, they could technically say the CPC officially recognizes it.

It would be interesting if they also passed a law making Jesus need permission for his second coming.

For anyone interested, Wikipedia has a fairly comprehensive and readable page on miraculous births throughout historical mythologies. It includes info on Melchizedek's birth!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miraculous_births

Here's Isis, the Egyptian uber-goddess, nursing the son she miraculously conceived with her resurrected husband, c 4,000 BC. It's a great story full of intrigue, adventures, murder and magic.

The mystical woman nursing a baby boy has featured large in cultural iconography for more than ten thousand years.

Oh, @RedTagAlan, that's brilliant!

I definitely think Messiahs should have a permit from the Israeli and Palestinian governments 😂 That should set a cat amongst a few pigeons!

It's amazing isn't it. The actual text of the law is worth a skim over.

There is a decent wiki article of course, but I don't have that. It's called the "State Religious Affairs Bureau Order No. 5"

State Religious Affairs Bureau Order No. 5 - Reference.org

It's almost pure Python.

But get this: "By 2024, 93 newly reincarnated living Buddhas had been approved and recognized. The legitimacy and credibility of the reincarnation of living Buddhas is under effective safeguards, the white paper said"

Source for that clip:

Reincarnation of living Buddhas managed based on clear rules in Xizang: white paper-Xinhua (news.cn)

If only the Romans had did that as well as -

“All right, but apart from the sanitation, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?”

“Brought Peace.”

“Oh. Peace? Shut up!”

Just as ridiculous as the bibles virgin birth story !

Makes me very concerned about the level of biology education in schools or parents not bothering to explain conception🤣

For donkey's years, parents could opt their children out of sex education on religious grounds. I seem to remember that church-based schools could opt out of it altogether. Thank goodness that's changed.

The crucifixion and resurrection of a holy man is also a feature of stories from other ancient cultures. Did Christianity copy these ideas to make their story look good?

You could argue that all these archetypes were so deeply embedded in people's cultures and psyches that it was completely natural to recreate them in any new religion as it developed. Jahweh/El was already a chief god, with similar mythologies, in surrounding civilisations before the Hebrews adopted him and converted him into a warrior lord for their exclusive use.

So, yes, they copied other religions. But the stories must go way, way back to before writing was invented, as the same ones existed for the ancient American civilisations as well as Siberian and African tribes. The Beringian land bridge (America to Russia) last flooded 12,000 years ago, making it the very latest time belief systems could have crossed the Atlantic. Everyone copied everyone else!

Thanks, that’s very interesting

I was looking through the Do you believe in God thread on the last page on this which is in the forum on the 1st page and went through the post that originally led me to post this thread here.

A lot of those points that was raised that I wanted to comment to about the Christian faith have been answered here. I am replying to what was not accurate about the Bible alone. This came from these two posts-

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/philosophyreligionspirituality/5470509-do-you-believe-in-god?page=40&reply=149966181&utmcampaign=reply&utmmedium=share&utmsource=copylink

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/philosophyreligionspirituality/5470509-do-you-believe-in-god?page=40&reply=149967487&utmcampaign=reply&utmmedium=share&utmsource=copylink

One point to discuss is that in that thread it was written that it was Paul who said that all foods were clean to eat. It was Peter who given this vision and not Paul (Acts 10:9-16) . It was written that Paul had murdered. As a human it is not good to murder, but at times there are causes in the law with protection why this may happen. For example, police protecting life sometimes need to end the life of a civilian. Prophet Muhammad may have had God specific warfare to it has been argued by some.

Is this accurate from the internet? I have edited some to remove uneccesary things if not accurate.
“[Critical Viewpoint: Critics, often citing historical texts like the Hadith (records of Muhammad's sayings and actions) and Sira (biographies), argue that after migrating to Medina, Muhammad ordered the assassination of opponents—including poets [ ] such as in the case of the Banu Qurayza tribe. Some critics [ ] , he used violence to silence dissent and consolidate authority, labeling some of these actions as premeditated killings or murders]”

Back to the point- Paul though himself repented with Jesus asking him -why is he persecuting his followers (Acts 9:4-5). He had his moment of conversion at the road to Damascus. People can change their ways and he did. About food Paul advised Christians to avoid blood and strangled animals (Acts 15:29)(1 Corinthians 8:4).

It was also written that a forum member didn’t understand why God needed to rest on the 7th day. This is the Sabbath which Jesus ruled over in the New Testament. The Sabbath is there so that we can rest as human beings and worship God. As Christians people can worship all the time, but the Sabbath is set aside for families and humans so they can rest and for spiritual rest, not that God can rest. The Bible also says that God does not slumber or sleep...indicating the reversethat he doesn’t rest. I don’t have a problem if he did rest...but the Bible doesn’t indicate that he does.

“The promise that "God never sleeps nor slumbers" comes from Psalm 121:3-4, affirming that God is an ever-watchful guardian who constantly protects his people. Unlike human sentinels who grow weary, God's vigilance is constant, providing unwavering security, care, and protection against dangers day and night”
“ He will not suffer thy foot to be moved: he that keepeth thee will not slumber.Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.”

There was discussion about the sons of God that were not from God’s substance in the Old Testament.
About sons of The Bible uses the phrase "son(s) of God"
Adam and David are called sons of God for distinct, symbolic reasons rooted in their roles in salvation history God in the Old Testament.
Direct Creation: Adam is called the "son of God" (Luke 3:38) because he was directly created by God through breath without human parents.
Why David was called a Son of God
“Covenantal Relationship: In the Old Testament, "son of God" is a metaphor for a special, chosen covenantal relationship. God refers to the nation of Israel as His firstborn (Exodus 4:22) and to King David as His son in the context of the covenant.
Messianic Representative: David is called a son in Psalm 2:7, a passage that acts as a prophecy pointing toward the ultimate fulfillment in Jesus, the promised King.
Man After God's Heart: David was chosen to rule because he was a man who understood his need to be "after [God's] own heart".
"Sons of God" in Genesis 6: Some interpretations suggest this phrase refers to angelic beings, while others interpret it as the righteous line of Seth.
Comparison to Jesus: While Adam was a created son, theologians distinguish him from Jesus, who is viewed as the unique, uncreated "only begotten" Son of God. This did not pertain to Jesus Christ as he was created from God’s substance and the others “sons” were not.

The two links do not work above.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/5470509-do-you-believe-in-god?page=40&reply=149966181&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share&utm_source=copylink

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/5470509-do-you-believe-in-god?page=40&reply=149967487&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share&utm_source=copylink

There have been numerous posts on this thread about the inaccuracies, false statements and blatant misinformation in the bible - another couple of copy and pasting isn’t going to change anything.

That's a bit of a gish gallop.

What one of the 16 pr so things do you want to specifically debate argue about ?

What happens if you set AI up against AI ?

Try that. Ask AI to explain how Adam was Jesus. Then ask AI to explain how Adam was not Jesus.

Those are all your perceptions which many may not share. Also, this is not the point of this thread.

This is not about arguing about anything. It is about correcting the wrong things that were said about Bible scripture in another post that have been aswered. i do not need an education about AI. I read what I post.The correct information has been posted.

No. A mistruth or inaccuracy. a contradiction etc is not about perception.

If I say the earth is flat, that is just plain wrong. Nowt to do with perception.

Eschatology is the branch of Christian theology concerned with "last things"

Theology and Biblical studies is the academic, critical, and analytical study of the Old and New Testaments.

Biblical hermeneutics is focused on the theory, methodology, and principles of interpreting the Bible.

Christian apologetics is the branch of theology that provides a reasoned, intellectual defence of the Christian faith, aiming to prove its truthfulness and address objections.

This is the legitimate study of looking for Bible errors.

The study of "looking for Bible errors" is a long-standing academic, theological, and critical endeavor, often referred to as biblical criticism or higher criticism. This field involves analysing the text for historical, scientific, and internal inconsistencies to understand its authorship, context, and composition.

This thread was about the discussion of theology and apologetics to a limited extent of the three Abrahamic faiths.

A legitimate study of criticism of the Bible is not about judging God’s miracles and the workings of heaven and this includes topics like arguments as errors that the Resurrection is impossible and the Incarnation is also impossible and wrong and error in the Bible. If you do not believe something that is completely different and that does not mean that something is a Bible error.