The thread has been more dominated by people who are not Christians or not interested in the Abrahamic faiths and take the thread in a different direction-picking things out of the Bible to agrue against, not finding it a problem before but to go and look now. A lot of people are using a modern world to measure an ancient society and fail to know that things are different in the Christian faith today. "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28).
If my minister explains to me about Acts 5 and it is different from I posted, I may share that.
I have argued though and used the correct scripture that shows that in Bible using scripture that Jesus is the Son of God. The counter arguments are not about this mainly because they was proved wrong.
Also, in summing up, this thread has had four ministers weighing in. One was about the conscreation of Jesus, another about Joseph to and then thoughts on the Holy Innocents by a preacher and more. Then there was a sermon about spiritual gifts that Jesus Christs which is invaluable and true. There are all here with places to go in links if interested. There was education that there is demons out there and also people had conversations at home.
I will post the 1st post as it has changed into a final addition without the images where in the original posts and links.
Repost and edit to the original post-
Jesus is the Son of God and some people of the Abrahamic faith who are not Christians and are Jews or Muslims believe him to be David to come or a prophet. This is not correct. Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.
Islam, Judaism and Christianity are called the Abrahamic faiths and n these three faiths we both have one God and share some of the foundational stories and founding patriarchs in the Old Testament and the Quran are the same with some differences how God is depicted. With Judaism we both share the same Old Testament/Torah and the same God.
I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online. This was hand selected by a Jewish convert to Christianity so I will share that with you, as it caught her attention.
The diagram can be clicked on and viewed about the Messiah prophecies to come. It comes in five images. [can be found in the original post]
The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).
This is the Rod of Jesse from a church collection-[can be found in the original post]
It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.
I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come. God is the creator and true source who speaks only the truth and his words are so clear in (Isaiah 44) "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.
This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).
Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). Jesus also said in further gospels that he was the Son of God (Matthew 16. 13-19). “When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven". He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.
The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection he too sent me, a nobody but a child of God. Why not get your comforter to help through life (John 4:11)? The days are getting perilous. The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised. The prophetic dreams too at 17 he gave me.
The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Jesus said the he is the Messiah in ( John 4) and Jesus also said the he was Son of God in (Luke 22:70) "Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am"
Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). The following scripture also confirm that Jesus was divine and the Son of God. Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28). The Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy for saying that he was the Son of God (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).
Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to. Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.
This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus and the gospel of Mark notes the name Emmanuel (Mark 1). He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God. He the coming of the birth of Jesus conceived by a virgin was prphecied in the book of (Isaiah 11), "A virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."
The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).
Please see also (Luke 2. 22-40) about Jesus’ consecration and Simeon confirming that Jesus was the Messiah and longed to be the redeemer of Israel and their Messiah to come.
I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.
More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.
We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd resurrection and judgement and the New Earth. Jesus will not come knocking on your door at the end of times-but as it said in the Bible-
Keep working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20). There will be two in a field and one will be taken-this will happen in our lives and we will just be taken up.
Jesus often reveals himself to those who knock and search for him and God usually gives you a moment when you hear him (Matthew 7:7) the New Testament tells us to seek to find the Lord if we have not.
“It's not always easy to recognise the light when it comes. It's not always easy to recognise the form that God's light takes in the world around us, And hopefully that will inspire us to spend our time getting ready to notice that tiptoe potential for light when it comes to us”.
The links I posted in another didn't paste properly to places may be of interest of Holy Spirit worship church's a few pages back, you can just copy and paste those links if interested.