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Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

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Justmerach · 19/01/2026 15:47

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
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Justmerach · 06/02/2026 14:12

I wanted to say if any of you have an interest in the faith and are curious and want to see the Holy spirit presence working on others, then you may want to take a look at a Holy Spirit church. There has been a revival in the Catholic faith in these church's. The faith is more than just about seeking the gifts of the Holy Spirit which can help us in our lives and it is a genuine faith built on the love of God.

I went to a Catholic school to 19 and was baptised as a Catholic and attended mass. I went to such a church at 17 in the faith and showed commitment and was given my gifts of the Holy Spirit. Justin Webly has spoken about praying in tongues also which is a gift also of the Holy Spirit. Jesus said that he would confirm our faith through the Holy Spirit and it he who appoints these gifts. I since do not attend this church and am non denominational today and have always been really. I have felt God’s presence in all the church’s I have been to in my life whether they were traditional Catholic or Anglican, or evangelical etc

There are prayer groups to in Westminster and Tooting for the Holy Spirit and church services to that are catholic Holy Spirit church’s. You can also watch some on Youtube.

I would say also perhaps if interested some stories of Saints like Catherine of Siena and St Agatha how they had miracles and Catherine was beheaded and her head is in the Basilica of San Domenico.

Stories that have been validated to like St Joseph of Cupertino may be good to read as well. I do not attend any of the services below. They are the gift of the Holy Spirit services in the UK and US where they can be watched online.

https://www.godisableccrpg.org.uk/gallery/

This is the Westminister Charismatic group.
https://westminstercathedral.org.uk/spiritual-life/prayer-study-groups/

This service to in the UK which is aimed more at young people seems to be thriving in the Gifts of the Holy Spirit and worship as well.
https://cenaclecharismatic.com/

https://cccgh.com/ these are priests who run these services

https://holyspiritlantana.com/

https://www.facebook.com/HolySpiritLantana/live

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Justmerach · 06/02/2026 14:35

RedTagAlan · 06/02/2026 13:59

Quote: "He the coming of the birth of Jesus conceived by a virgin was prphecied in the book of (Isaiah 11), "A virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."

Again, he was called Jesus.

I don't care when the Quaran was written. That is not what we are talking about.

So when were the Gospels written ? You can surely see the issue if Paul, who had never met Jesus, was preaching about him before he had the gospels ? Because what was he preaching ? And why ? Where did the Apostles go ? Was Paul directing what should be written ?

This by the way, is why Christians should really be called Paulines.

I was saying from the ministers view Christianity was logged earlier than Islam, but no offence people like you seem to have a lot of complaint with Christianity. I know that we are discussing the topic. All the below can be used to call Jesus Christ. Remember he is known more in Judaism by another name.

The Son of God
Jesus Christ
The Perfect One to Come
Jesus is the light of the world
The Saviour
The Messiah
The Lord
I am the Good Shepherd
The Son of Elias
The Redeemer
The bridegroom of the church
The Lamb of Christ
The Lamb of God
Immanuel/E
The Lion of Judah
The Root of David
The gate
The way
Only Begotten Son Beloved Son
Joshua The name means "Jehovah the Savior".
The King of Jews
Yeshua
Son of Man
Ichthys- Greek name symbol fish symbol for Christanity
Arm of Jesus
Lord of Lords
The Rock
I am
Bright Morning Star
Bread of Heaven
The Living Word
Jehovah's Son
Keeper of the Gate
The Peace
The Holy King
Bearer of the Yoke
Ram of Christ
I am the bread of life
I am the resurrection and life
I am the way truth and life
I am the door
I am the true vine
The rod of Jesse

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RedTagAlan · 06/02/2026 14:47

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 14:35

I was saying from the ministers view Christianity was logged earlier than Islam, but no offence people like you seem to have a lot of complaint with Christianity. I know that we are discussing the topic. All the below can be used to call Jesus Christ. Remember he is known more in Judaism by another name.

The Son of God
Jesus Christ
The Perfect One to Come
Jesus is the light of the world
The Saviour
The Messiah
The Lord
I am the Good Shepherd
The Son of Elias
The Redeemer
The bridegroom of the church
The Lamb of Christ
The Lamb of God
Immanuel/E
The Lion of Judah
The Root of David
The gate
The way
Only Begotten Son Beloved Son
Joshua The name means "Jehovah the Savior".
The King of Jews
Yeshua
Son of Man
Ichthys- Greek name symbol fish symbol for Christanity
Arm of Jesus
Lord of Lords
The Rock
I am
Bright Morning Star
Bread of Heaven
The Living Word
Jehovah's Son
Keeper of the Gate
The Peace
The Holy King
Bearer of the Yoke
Ram of Christ
I am the bread of life
I am the resurrection and life
I am the way truth and life
I am the door
I am the true vine
The rod of Jesse

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(Isaiah 11), "A virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."

Jesus was not called Immanuel. I have asked you multiple times now, why was he called Jesus ?

The prophecy does not match up. No matter how the gospel writers tried to make it fit by inventing a census, that historically never happened.

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 14:51

As to the question when the gospels were written that RedTagAlan posted. I think this source looks trusted.

https://stpaulcenter.com/posts/when-were-the-gospels-written

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Justmerach · 06/02/2026 14:55

RedTagAlan · 06/02/2026 14:47

(Isaiah 11), "A virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."

Jesus was not called Immanuel. I have asked you multiple times now, why was he called Jesus ?

The prophecy does not match up. No matter how the gospel writers tried to make it fit by inventing a census, that historically never happened.

Immanuel was one Jesus' names. You was a Christian for 20 years and may be you don't remember it.

Immanuel, meaning " God with us," is a title for Jesus Christ from Isaiah 7:14, fulfilled in Matthew 1:23 when an angel tells Joseph that Mary’s son will be called by this name. While Jesus' given name is Jesus (Yeshua), Immanuel signifies his divine nature as God dwelling among humanity, rather than a proper name.

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RedTagAlan · 06/02/2026 15:00

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 14:51

As to the question when the gospels were written that RedTagAlan posted. I think this source looks trusted.

https://stpaulcenter.com/posts/when-were-the-gospels-written

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I tend to use the earlier end of the range of authorship dates in these discussions. And I tend to go with Mat and Luke being written at the same time. Perhaps in the same room, with a copy of Mark, possibly a Q gospel too. Although the Q is just conjecture.

So trying again. Why was Jesus called Jesus ?

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 15:05

This is what one of my Bible’s says about the name Jesus Christ which I have attached..Btw, have a good weekend everyone.

Btw, I don’t think that I mentioned the anointed one as a name. I cut some back to post here. Have a good weekend everybody.

Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
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RedTagAlan · 06/02/2026 15:09

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 15:05

This is what one of my Bible’s says about the name Jesus Christ which I have attached..Btw, have a good weekend everyone.

Btw, I don’t think that I mentioned the anointed one as a name. I cut some back to post here. Have a good weekend everybody.

No "Jesus" or "Immanuel" in that bit of text.

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 15:15

RedTagAlan · 06/02/2026 15:09

No "Jesus" or "Immanuel" in that bit of text.

If you click on the text it says that the name is translated from the Hebrew.

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RedTagAlan · 06/02/2026 15:20

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 15:15

If you click on the text it says that the name is translated from the Hebrew.

Why Immanuel and not Joshua then ? The prophecy is wrong.

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 16:38

RedTagAlan · 06/02/2026 15:20

Why Immanuel and not Joshua then ? The prophecy is wrong.

I don't think that you have made a discovery on this and prophecy is not wrong. Angel Gabriel said that would be called Jesus in Mark and it is noted as Immanuel in Luke. .Immanuel means God with us and it had to be this way due to the scripture below..

This is in (Luke 1)-
And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.

This is in Mark 1
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

John 14-
"Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

"Joshua (Hebrew:
Yehoshua or Yeshua) and Jesus (Greek: Iesous) share the same etymological roots, meaning "Yahweh (the LORD) is salvation" or "the LORD saves". While Joshua led Israel into the Promised Land, the name Jesus signifies his role as the Savior who delivers people from sins. "God with us" refers specifically to the title Immanue"

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Parker231 · 06/02/2026 16:51

Immoral events from what we are told is a “good” book?

Lot offered his two daughters to a group of sex seeking men to do to them whatever they wished (Genesis 19:8). Later, he impregnated both daughters, but the Bible of course blames the girls, and accuses them of conspiring to get their father drunk so that they could rape him to become pregnant. (Genesis 19:30–36). In the New Testament 2 Peter 2:7 says that he, their father was righteous.
Deuteronomy 21:10–13: ”When you go out to battle against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take them away captive, and see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire for her and would take her as a wife for yourself, then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails. She shall also remove the clothes of her captivity and shall remain in your house, and mourn her father and mother a full month; and after that you may go in to her (that means to rape her) and be her husband and she shall be your wife.” (Rape and kidnapping were not only approved by the Bible, but they were expressly authorized as part of God’s Law)
Deuteronomy 22:28–29 mandates that if a young virgin is raped, she must marry the rapist if he pays her father 50 shekels of silver.

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 17:13

Parker231
I will return on this soon, I wanted to write though, to enter her means to have a carmal relationship with someone three latter word starting with s and ending in x. I don't think that it means to rape someone. Also, the laws the Mosaic laws were for the Israelites who were the chosen people that were severed for God.. Others didn't have to follow all these laws if they didn't want. The purity laws and holiness laws are in (Leviticus 15-26).
There society was small and soon incest was outlawed in the laws above.

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Justmerach · 06/02/2026 19:22

I looked at the story of the Epic of Gilgamesh that GarlicSound asked about and I formed the opinion (if it happened) that it was pagan account of the flood during the flood of Noah. This was the time when the sons of God went down to meet daughters who were fair and had children (Genesis 6:2). Any gods mentioned who were not Yahweh (God) were false gods.
This would not happen today. God changed their make-up I read of angels.

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Parker231 · 06/02/2026 19:39

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 17:13

Parker231
I will return on this soon, I wanted to write though, to enter her means to have a carmal relationship with someone three latter word starting with s and ending in x. I don't think that it means to rape someone. Also, the laws the Mosaic laws were for the Israelites who were the chosen people that were severed for God.. Others didn't have to follow all these laws if they didn't want. The purity laws and holiness laws are in (Leviticus 15-26).
There society was small and soon incest was outlawed in the laws above.

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It doesn’t matter how you try to parcel it up - rape and incest are wrong. The Bible doesn’t paint a good picture of god - he seems to have expected to be worshipped and obeyed but doesn’t do anything good or to stop bad. Lots of myths and legends and little truth.

Wapentake · 06/02/2026 19:39

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 17:13

Parker231
I will return on this soon, I wanted to write though, to enter her means to have a carmal relationship with someone three latter word starting with s and ending in x. I don't think that it means to rape someone. Also, the laws the Mosaic laws were for the Israelites who were the chosen people that were severed for God.. Others didn't have to follow all these laws if they didn't want. The purity laws and holiness laws are in (Leviticus 15-26).
There society was small and soon incest was outlawed in the laws above.

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For heaven’s sake, @Justmerach — the type of woman who is being talked about in the Deuteronomy quotation posted by @Parker231 is a captive taken by enemy forces in battle, someone who has watched the victorious side butcher all her male relatives and take the women as slaves, the young ones as concubines. Consent is not a possibility. The whole point of raping the women of the people you conquered was to impregnate them. As an act of subjugation.

The ‘ethical’ practice being advocated by the Bible here is not (1) not to enslave people, (2) not that you shouldn’t rape the women you’ve just enslaved, but only (3) that you give them a month to mourn their brothers and fathers, whom you killed, before raping them. .

Justmerach · 06/02/2026 19:50

Wapentake · 06/02/2026 19:39

For heaven’s sake, @Justmerach — the type of woman who is being talked about in the Deuteronomy quotation posted by @Parker231 is a captive taken by enemy forces in battle, someone who has watched the victorious side butcher all her male relatives and take the women as slaves, the young ones as concubines. Consent is not a possibility. The whole point of raping the women of the people you conquered was to impregnate them. As an act of subjugation.

The ‘ethical’ practice being advocated by the Bible here is not (1) not to enslave people, (2) not that you shouldn’t rape the women you’ve just enslaved, but only (3) that you give them a month to mourn their brothers and fathers, whom you killed, before raping them. .

I was not commenting on this story yet. I was commenting simply on the words of enter into and stating that the purity laws and holiness for the Israelites the Chosen people. I will read though read them again before I reply about the stories.

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Justmerach · 06/02/2026 20:34

Parker231 · 06/02/2026 16:51

Immoral events from what we are told is a “good” book?

Lot offered his two daughters to a group of sex seeking men to do to them whatever they wished (Genesis 19:8). Later, he impregnated both daughters, but the Bible of course blames the girls, and accuses them of conspiring to get their father drunk so that they could rape him to become pregnant. (Genesis 19:30–36). In the New Testament 2 Peter 2:7 says that he, their father was righteous.
Deuteronomy 21:10–13: ”When you go out to battle against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take them away captive, and see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire for her and would take her as a wife for yourself, then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails. She shall also remove the clothes of her captivity and shall remain in your house, and mourn her father and mother a full month; and after that you may go in to her (that means to rape her) and be her husband and she shall be your wife.” (Rape and kidnapping were not only approved by the Bible, but they were expressly authorized as part of God’s Law)
Deuteronomy 22:28–29 mandates that if a young virgin is raped, she must marry the rapist if he pays her father 50 shekels of silver.

1)I have looked at it and the father I agree seemed to be abused by his daughters. Men can get abused to. I am more of an egalitarian rights for men are important as well. They may not have had that intention, but look how God punishes date rape at the end link. The daughter of Lamentations was drunk and raped.

2nd) Well, this is an ancient society and a lot of women had a traditional role in ancient society as well. It doesn’t saythat anybody was raped in this. Some women in Judaism today want these traditional roles. “And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife” If there was not force compulsion with this the women may be it is questionable for them it is harder to be in poverty. As I said enter into somebody does not mean to rape somebody. This is story not that you decide without knowing if a woman would be ok with this or if there was compulsion in this.
Deuteronomy 22:28–29 Nobody was raped in this story. It was also not a modern day world. It is a law of ancient society. Our society has changed today and we cannot measure it so well by our standards today.

Deuteronomy 22:25-27is clearer that God does not condone rape-“But if a man find betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter.

Also, look here and see how God has been a punisher of abuse. You can see the chart at the bottom. We can see later in (Isaiah 9. 1-4), that slavery was not condoned by God.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapeintheHebrewBible

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Justmerach · 07/02/2026 01:01

Hi everyone, I wanted to post a sermon by a church minister on the spiritual gifts of the Holy Spirit. I have mentioned this here and some people didn't seem to get why I was mentioning it about the Holy Spirit gifts and about the Comforter (the Holy Spirit). Jesus is the Son of God. When he left us he said he would send his believers from heaven the comforter which is the Holy Spirit to help us on our journies and support the church. Most seem to get the Holy Spriit sent to them through baptism and faith. The fact that Jesus is the one who appoints these gifts means that his existence is real. I have also atttached a Bible note about what the Holy Spirit can help with, it is for all believers.

The Sermon
In our reading from the letter to the church at Corinth, Paul in his greeting to the church gave thanks for them and mentioned that they were not lacking in any spiritual gift as they waited for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ.
And a question for you. Are you aware of your own spiritual gifts? We all have
them. We're in the season of Epiphany when we celebrate Christ being revealed to the world through his baptism and miracles.

Maybe this year we need to explore or rediscover the spiritual gifts that
we've been given. We're all gifted by God. And spiritual gifts are not reserved for priests or super spiritual Christians. They're given to every believer for a purpose greater than ourselves. And the church doesn't thrive because of one talented person. It thrives when every member uses their God-given gifts.
They're not earned by holiness, education, or age in faith.

They're graciously given by the Holy Spirit. And spiritual gifts are expressions of
God's grace working through his people. God intentionally gives different gifts
to different people because a diversity of gifts is a strength. No gift is insignificant and a hidden gift is just as valuable as a more visible one. And a church needs a wide variety of gifts to function fully.

Every church is equipped with all the gifts it needs. So if a church feels that it's lacking something, it may be that it hasn't enabled its members to discover their spiritual gifts. And this can happen if you have people who are so good at doing everything that there's no space for others to step in. Or maybe people might
assume that others have got certain gifts and they don't need to find other
other gifts from other people. People are locked into certain ways and
patterns and the challenge of doing something different may seem a bit of a threat.

Spiritual gifts are not given to us for personal status, not for competition or self-promotion. They're given for the common good, to build up the church, serve others, and to reveal Christ to the world. When gifts are used selfishly, the
church suffers. When they used lovingly, the church flourishes.
And love is what makes spiritual gifts spiritual. Every gift must be exercised with
humility, compassion, and grace. Without love, gifts become sort of
noise, and service becomes obligation. A ministry can become pride.
So, you might be wondering, what are these gifts? They're referred to and listed in several of the letters to the churches in the Bible.

Some highlight spiritual empowerment by the Holy Spirit and others emphasize roles and functions in the church. And I played around for the first time this week with AI. And I asked AI to give me a list of spiritual gifts. And so here with the help of AI, here's a combined list of the commonly recognized spiritual gifts in alphabetical order and they come from several letters in the Bible. Administration, apostles, discernment, encouragement, evangelism, faith, giving, healing, helping, knowledge, leadership, mercy, miracles, pastor, prophecy, teaching, tongues, interpretation of tongues, and wisdom. And to explore these and understand what they mean could be a whole year of sermons and more. But we can start by exploring what in this list might resonate with us.

All spiritual gifts are about service. Jesus taught his disciples that he came
not to be served but to serve and that the first should be last and the last first. So, how are we going to serve? In the gospel reading today, Jesus asked Andrew and Peter what they were looking for.
And he responded with, "Come and see." We can accept this invitation for
ourselves and explore what God has given us and discover our spiritual gifts.

So, how might we do this? Well, we need to take time and reflect.
We might like to ask ourselves some questions such as where do I experience the most joy in serving? If your heart sinks at something, maybe that isn't your gift. Where have is where have I seen spiritual fruit in my life? And you may find that um others might be affirming gifts in you. How has that been happening? Has someone said, "Oh, you're really good at that. Maybe you should follow it up." We might do this with a spiritual director or at a quiet day or on a retreat or in the quiet of our own homes.

At some stage, it's good to check out what others may be noticing. It's as well to remember that spiritual gifts grow through use, not just discovery. You may have more than one gift, and they can develop over time, and love must guide every gift.

We're invited to come and see to come and see how much God loves us all. That he was prepared to get involved with the human beings who he created in his image. So much so that his son was incarnated here on earth into a human family to come and see that God wants us to enjoy being human and live to our full human potential discovering our spiritual gifts. He wants us to leave church with smiles on our faces because we've been in his presence.

Jesus's disciples were a mixed bunch, a bit like us here in our own community.
I'm always heartened by the people Jesus chose as his close friends because they were far from perfect. They had ordinary and sometimes questionable jobs. They argued among themselves. They let Jesus down. And yet, it was these same people who Jesus entrusted with building his church here on earth. and they made a good job of this despite their disputes and differing personalities. We know this because here we are today nearly 2,000 years later.

If God can be at work in churches in a place like Corinth, then why not here too?
God has given us power and love and a call to light up the world.

This sermon is based on these scriptures.

(1 Corinthians 12).

(Ephesians 4)
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ”

(John 14)

“If ye love me, keep my commandments.
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter,
(Romans 12)

The Holy Spirit has many roles, helper, healer, protector, intercessor, advocate, strengthener, standby, comforter, counsellor, baptiser and a sanctifier. The Holy Spirit can also help you learn to care for yourself spiritually and also holistically.

Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
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RedTagAlan · 07/02/2026 03:10

@Justmerach

Quote : "1)I have looked at it and the father I agree seemed to be abused by his daughters. Men can get abused to. I am more of an egalitarian rights for men are important as well. They may not have had that intention, but look how God punishes date rape at the end link. The daughter of Lamentations was drunk and raped."

Goodness me.

So a man could rape and impregnate his daughters and it's the women at fault ?

Are you also ok with Abrham pimping his wife out for riches ? 3 times he done it I think, when she was 80 years plus.

Have you never thought about who the sons of Adam and Eve had kids with ? There was just one woman after all. Then all the incest happened again with Noah.

GarlicBound · 07/02/2026 05:17

RedTagAlan · 06/02/2026 14:47

(Isaiah 11), "A virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."

Jesus was not called Immanuel. I have asked you multiple times now, why was he called Jesus ?

The prophecy does not match up. No matter how the gospel writers tried to make it fit by inventing a census, that historically never happened.

There's also the small fact that he's constantly referred to as 'seed of' David. To this end, much effort is made to demonstrate how Joseph was a descendant of the house of David.

The problem? Joseph's DNA isn't in Jesus. Jesus, according to the legend, isn't anybody's 'seed' - although he might be Mary's, depending on the method of impregnation. He is God's son, and God is not descended from David.

GarlicBound · 07/02/2026 05:39

@Justmerach, you asserted: Deuteronomy 22:28–29 Nobody was raped in this story.

That very link says:
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

@RedTagAlan's quite right, it permits men to take virgin brides by force.

Bible Gateway passage: Deuteronomy 22 - New International Version

If you see your fellow Israelite’s ox or sheep straying, do not ignore it but be sure to take it back to its owner. If they do not live near you or if you do not know who owns it, take it home with you and keep it until they come looking for it. Then g...

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+22

RedTagAlan · 07/02/2026 06:03

GarlicBound · 07/02/2026 05:39

@Justmerach, you asserted: Deuteronomy 22:28–29 Nobody was raped in this story.

That very link says:
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

@RedTagAlan's quite right, it permits men to take virgin brides by force.

Also worth noting is that after 400 years of bondage, the first laws Moses gives, after the 10 commandments, are laws about keeping slaves. Not laws about not keeping slaves. Exodus 21.

Including this gem :

Exo 21:4 if his lord gives a wife to him, and she has borne sons or daughters to him--the wife and her children are her lord's, and he goes out by himself.

If your slave has kids, then they belong to the slave owner.

And this is the book of morals ?

I have a challenge I give to Christians. That from the approx 3/4 of a million words in an English language Bible, can they name a half dozen good moral lessons from it ?

None have managed so far.

GarlicBound · 07/02/2026 06:34

I disagree that there are fewer than six good moral lessons there. I'd heartily agree, though, that the vast majority of its lessons are cruel, aggressive, xenophobic, misogynist, supremacist, jingoistic, grasping, superstitious and unforgiving.

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