What’s the craziest thing you’ve seen God do?

[bluejellybelly]

If you’re a Christian, like a miracle or breakthrough, or even maybe someone encouraged you with exactly what you needed to hear and you know it was God… all those sorts of things… I wanna hear!

You still haven't answered what was actually asked, but I realised quite early on that you'd struggle to do that. Of course you're free to believe what you like, but others are also free to question it, especially when it's not logical (it's not just me who has done this). I do believe humans are all searching for meaning, and a god figure is where some folk find it. It brings them comfort even if they're not 100% sure how real it all is.

I'm not the one stuck in a loop, I'm the one asking an important question, which hasn't been answered at all, not even remotely.

I’m sorry you feel it hasn’t x

@zeitweilig I think they think, they feel something which they are attributing to a god. You just have to look at the state of the world to see how much this belief has a hold on people.

and god help us all

That's how religion started though. People didn't have knowledge of the science to rationalize anything so they came up with god/gods as an explanation. See also: miracles.

Yes, absolutely. But these “God protected MY baby/dog/parking space” stories are SO harmful and offensive to the rest of us who didn’t qualify for such divine intervention.

I was actually just thinking about that - it doesn't mean it's the correct approach though.

Yes, I appreciate that they think/feel that it's a god, but that doesn't mean it is.

There's no 'feel' about it. 😵‍💫

Absolutely agree. I find the whole concept baffling to say the least.

I was a christian for a while (preyed upon at a vulnerable time - yes, prEyed and not prAyed). I read and studied and questioned my way to freedom, but, unfortunately, it's shocking what people will start to believe when surrounded by others who already believe such things. There's a reason why many christians are encouraged to surround themselves with other believers.

@zeitweilig sorry you went through that. Absolutely awful.

Thank you.

This goes against the idea that anyone can be 'saved' and develop a relationship with a the christian god. There cannot be chosen people and it be open to all.

This still hasn't been answered. So, I'm asking for the third time.

I personally am 100% sure. That’s kind of the point of believing or not. I’m sorry you find my beliefs offensive - I’m not being arrogant or saying God chooses me over other people. I don’t think that most Christians would say that. At my church there are people suffering through all sorts of crap, because that’s what life is like for most of us! We all have things we’re going through. I certainly do but I’m not about to share it with the entirety of mumsnet. But for those people it doesn’t negate the existence or goodness of God. Feel free to disagree, I’ve said it so many times, it’s not going to change my mind or make me any less sure of my own experiences.

And I’m sorry you had a horrid experience of Christians. That sucks. I’ve had horrible experiences of Christians and non Christians alike because we’re all human and there are numpties everywhere.

I don’t have the answer to why, no. It’s a huge question and I totally understand it being a question. It’s one I’ve had when ongoing personal situations haven’t changed - but again, it for me doesn’t take away that God can be good and can answer prayers, it just means evil also exists.

And I didn’t mean to ignore you! There’s been a lot of traffic on this thread x

Why is it that some on this thread persist in thinking they are owed an answer to a question this thread wasn't created to address in the first place? Completely bizarre.

Friends from church always seem to message me when I'm really down and need support. Sometimes we haven't spoken in months and they will get in touch right when I need them. I've also had a sudden strong urge to call an old friend I'd not spoken to in ages and she answered in a right state really needing a friend. Could be explained by simple coincidence i have no proof but that's not what faith is

So those innocent murdered children in the article I shared weren't worthy of God's love?

I honestly don't know where to start responding to this whole reply but I'll adress the key issues:

1. You cannot be a 100% sure a god was involved in anything. You can only choose that viewpoint. I could choose to say whatever suits my belief narrative too. I accept your free right to choose any belief system you like.
2. Please stop saying I said things that I didn't say - at no point did I use the word offensive.
3. If a god only answers some prayers and not others then it is egotistical at best to think you were chosen over millions of others in relation to that specific prayer. What about those whose prayers are never answered? Are they not good enough?
4. I don't need your permission to disagree, just as you don't need mine.
5. I didn't have a horrid experience of christians, I had a real experience of the concept of christianity and how christians come to behave as a group (having lived in more than one location and attended a variety of churches and groups I met a whole range if folk). Many of them were nice humans, they believe they've found something special and it becomes their normal. Most of those I know who really studied the bible and their faith frequently ask(ed) questions like 'is it really god?' and continue to do so. The thing is that if you constantly seek something you can actually convince yourself it's there. I did that for a time, but deeper study helped me realise that it was all (sometimes well crafted, sometimes not) stories. Is there some wisdom in there? Of course, but that's true of most books of 'wisdom'.
6. I was definitely preyed upon when vulnerable, and it's not uncommon for folk to 'find faith' at challenging times. Those doing the preying think they are helping but it's still preying because it's abusing the vulnerable.

I think that's perhaps selective memory/analysis though.
It's like when folk think about someone then bump into them - they remember that thought more than the other thoughts they had when they didn't bump into them.
Your friends maybe also think 'oh LWUTB hasn't been in touch, hope she's ok' or 'LWUTB was a bit quiet, maybe I'll see how she is'. Friends also often contact each other and you might remember the times when it was most appreciated more than other times.

Think about it logically.
If you want to credit a god with something you should be able to conclusively determine that said god was actually involved, and not that you just don't have another obvious explanation.
This board is religion/philosophy not just christianity - that said, I know a lot of christians who dedicate hours trying to determine if things are of 'god' or not - some folk think that a good thing might actually be a bad thing in disguise and want to be sure they're acting accordingly. Others think they want something so much that they might be thinking something is 'of god' because they want it to be.