What’s the craziest thing you’ve seen God do?

[bluejellybelly]

If you’re a Christian, like a miracle or breakthrough, or even maybe someone encouraged you with exactly what you needed to hear and you know it was God… all those sorts of things… I wanna hear!

You're entitled to disagree, clearly, but that doesn't change essentially factual information.

It's most definitely relevant to point out that thinking something is due to a god figure doesn't necessarily mean it actually is due to said god figure.

Yes, but AA themselves say that ‘Higher Power’ in the sense in which it’s used by people on the programme, while often effective, is so broad as to be essentially meaningless — it can mean literally anything you think is ‘higher’ than yourself, eg family, their AA group, nature, love, friendship etc etc.

👌🏽 thank you

How can you be sure anything is down to a god?

How are you not bored and why are you so offended by what I believe?

I’ve said it so many times on this thread, I’m really tired of repeating myself, please just go back through. I don’t really feel the need to defend it - I believe what I believe and you don’t, that’s fine!

I'd like an actual answer as to how you/others know that a god intervened. I asked that question of many situation when I was also a christian, so it's nothing to do with being offended by you!

But I’ve answered this 😂 timing, experience, faith, please don’t make me write it all again 😂

I've read your replies.
None of that confirms the actions of a god, other than you wanting it to be so. There's also no explanation of why only certain prayers are answered - it's certainly not related to how kind or decent a person is.

Okay :) I disagree, I feel I’ve answered you and also been very open about the fact I don’t have the answers to everyone else’s questions. I didn’t start this thread for that.

Maybe you should start your own thread :) I’m bored of repeating myself.

You started a thread asking about things a god had done in people's lives, and I'm asking how you, or anyone, can actually know it was anything to do with the involvement of a god.

For me, the 2 incidents I mentioned could not be explained scientifically. (& happened after specific praying from a lot of people)

The doctors were completely baffled as to how they happened.

More interestingly actually is that both times there were medical professionals who said it was not the first time they had seen an inexplicable healing. Sometimes it just happens, and they will accept that

Something not being obviously explained doesn't mean a god was involved though. You cannot just say it was a god just because there isn't another obvious explanation.

Oh my goodness. Can you take it elsewhere? For these people actually answering your questions, the reasons they are giving are enough for them to know. They don’t need you to believe it for them.

@zeitweilig - accept it's not 100% provable. But sometimes the person knows they have been healed by God - they feel it. And receiving an answer to a very specific prayer with no medical or scientific explanation is powerful

It's like trying to prove love. You can know beyond doubt that you absolutely adore someone, but there is no scientific way of proving it to others - it's impossible. Yet that doesn't mean it's not true

Sometimes you really feel God's presence, you know he's there. I have also heard God directly speak to me, just once in over 50 years mind! Someone was saying that a particular thing would never ever change, which devastated me. I very clearly heard God say to me 'don't you believe that Jackstini, it will!'
I can never prove it - but I know it's true

Take my logical questioning elsewhere? Why? It's relevant.

You have explained this much better than me, thank you x

I still don't understand how you know this is a god, much as the thought might be comforting to some people.

You’ve been answered by myself and others now, so hopefully that helps. It’s okay if you don’t agree or understand x

You seem to be stuck in a loop despite how many people have answered you - really what’s happening is you disagreeing with what others are saying they know was God? That’s fine but perhaps time to stop asking the same question over and over. I understand you having questions, everyone has them and none of us have all the answers, but your particular question has been answered and it’s not at all what I started the thread for. X

@zeitweilig - I've tried to explain but it hard as not provable

When you know, you know. Some just feel it, some are specifically spoken to by God

Have you ever felt truly loved, or loved someone else beyond measure? You know that that feeling is real, it's true, it exists - right? But there is no way any scientist can prove it. That doesn't mean it isn't real though

It is the same with God. That's the very definition of faith - knowing something is true but unable to give tangible proof to others

Hope this helps - I'm not sure how else to say it

I have said, and Jackstini has said, and others have said. I’m going to stop answering you now - if you read carefully back through you’ll find how myself and others believe we know, and also that we don’t have all the answers. I’m sorry if that’s not enough for you - I’m sharing my lived experience not answering all the pain and confusion of humanity. The existence of evil doesn’t mean no God, some prayers not being answered also doesn’t mean no God for me, it just means we live in a world with a heck of a lot of pain and suffering.

I hope you are able to crack on now and either accept our answers as just being different to what you believe - or find someone to chat to in person.

Thanks for the discussion anyway x

Feeling truly loved by a real living person, that you can actually touch and see and hear, isn't the same as feeling truly loved by a god figure, that you can only imagine.
I speak as someone who once called themselves a christian and realise how it becomes possible to convince oneself of a lot which isn't actually real at all, when you surround yourself with like minded folk.

to answer the ops question : that some people are valued more than others due to god choosing his chosen people when the being would have the power to do x to all, shows that some are not worthy and others are worthy of gods love