God is the creator so who created god

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I’ll nail my colors to the mast first….. I’m not a believer but I also know currently science does not have all the answers to the origins of life

However

I have known Christian’s who believe in god because it answers the two questions we can’t yet answer - where did we come from and what happens when we die

of comfort is gained from that then fine.

however none had got anything plausible to say to the answer to the thread title - if god created us then who created god. It just pushes the unknown back one step in the chain.

Sorry? But I don't know?

People have speculated on these matters since humans became capable of thought. They are fascinating to contemplate but sadly also very dangerous - because they deal in fundamentals and anything that does this tends towards fundamentalism. Hence the appalling record of organised religions in their efforts to force their views on everyone.

I prefer to accept that we cannot know the answers to these big questions and just have to embrace this as a fact of life. All religions have, hidden away in their insistence on being the only true way, a kernel of the doctrine of kindness. What a different place the world would be if we just concentrated on that.

So, when people ask me what religion I am, I simply say the religion of Kindness.

Where did we come from and why? Where do we ho when we die? We simply do not know; but we can choose to live by kindness for the time we have here.

@MsBombastic555 Here's your answer;
Christian beliefs about life after death are based on the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Christians believe that Jesus’ death and resurrection are part of God’s divine plan for humankind. Through his death on the cross, Jesus pays the penalty for humankind's sin and humankind's relationship with God is restored. This is called atonement. Christians believe that three days after the crucifixion, God raised Jesus from the dead and he once again appeared to his disciples. This is taken to mean that Jesus’ sacrifice was a victory over sin and death. Although physical death still happens, those who believe in Christ and live good lives will be given eternal life in Heaven.
The Catholic Church teaches that humanity will face two judgements:
a)individual judgement
b)final judgement
Individual judgement
Individual judgement, sometimes called particular judgement, happens at the moment of death when each individual will be judged on how they have lived their life. The soul will then go to Heaven, Hell or Purgatory depending on whether their actions have been judged as being in accordance with God’s teachings or not.
Final judgement
Final judgement will come at the end of time, when all of humanity will be raised from the dead and body and soul will be reunited. Here all will be judged by Christ who will have returned in all his glory. The teaching on judgement is reflected in the Gospels in the parable of the Sheep and the Goats.

And there you have the fundamentalism......
Be afraid, be very afraid.

@Mischance Why fundamentalism? It's pretty much what Christans across the board believe (with the exception of purgatory and a few other details here).

@Mischance

"Be afraid, be very afraid."

Indeed.

Though Catholic Church attendance has been on the decline, there's been a recent increase in requests for exorcisms and an increase in priests being trained by the Vatican to perform this ritual.
In 2018 The Vatican opened its doors for its annual exorcism course amid increasing demand among some of the world's Catholic communities.
As many as 250 priests from 50 countries arrived in Rome to learn how to identify demonic possession, to hear personal accounts from other priests and to find out more about the rituals behind expelling demons.

Make of that what you will....

@Annualleavecancelled Not Catholic, but same principle. The rising popularity of the occult, particularly spiritualism means more people are opening themselves up to dark spiritual forces:

www.baptist.org.uk/Articles/533118/Is_deliverance_ministry.aspx

Believing philosophers and theologians propose God as the ultimate explanation for these things. Since he is a necessary being that exists outside of time, he needs no further explanation.
So the question, “Who created God?” is nonsensical, because it amounts to asking, “Who created an uncreated being?”

One would only ask that question or have that thought if they do not truly understand who or what God is?

If one believes in God then surely one will understand that God is independent of anyone or anything. He was never born and never dies.

That would be my humble understanding.

Those who believes in many gods' I guess they would have their own understanding or vision of God.

That 250 priests fancied a free trip to Rome?

That mental health problems are increasing substantially?

‘As many as 250 priests from 50 countries arrived in Rome to learn how to identify demonic possession, to hear personal accounts from other priests and to find out more about the rituals behind expelling demons.

Make of that what you will....’

There are at least 250
men in the world who fancy having the kind of power and influence in communities that the old witch hunters had in medieval times and beyond?
That there are a lot of countries where the demand for good mental health care far exceeds what’s available to people?

that yet again a major religion is far over reaching into people’s lives, and not for the good.

Each Roman Catholic diocese has an exorcist, and I believe the same is true in the CofE.

My brother use to ask me 'if god's all powerful can he make a rock so big even he can't lift it?'

Made me laugh every time.

I'm not a believer.

Whatever created us, exists outside of time, space and matter. Since we are bound by time, space and matter, our minds cannot comprehend how that thing that created time, space and matter came about.

All we know, is that there is an intelligent designer. This level of order, complexity and precision could not have come from a spontaneous combustion.

‘All we know, is that there is an intelligent designer.’

no we don’t. But it’s fine for you to believe that if it brings you comfort.

Everything we observe in nature has a beginning. God however is in a different category, and must be so. God is different from all nature and humanity and everything that exists, in that he has always existed, independent from anything he created.
God is not a dependent being, but self-sufficient, self-existent.
And this is exactly how the Bible describes God, and how God has revealed himself to be

Chicken and egg innit?
Oh, wait, that's evolution...

So if there is no intelligent designer, then what created time, space, matter and the universe?

‘So if there is no intelligent designer, then what created time, space, matter and the universe?’

Not a white man with a big beard who set a load of arbitrary rules for his ‘people’ to follow.

Believing philosophers and theologians propose God as the ultimate explanation for these things. Since he is a necessary being that exists outside of time, he needs no further explanation.

Indeed - they "propose" this because they have no other explanation. In other words, god is a human construct.

We do not know the answers to these basic questions and need to embrace that as simply how it is. Live decent lives, care for others - a better way to spend a life than trying to explain the inexplicable.

If there were a god, no doubt they would be explaining their role and who they might be, rather than leaving us in this unknowing mess and leaving us to develop all these varied religions with the evils that so often flow from them.

I see that you have no answer.

Christianity, Islam and Judaism all worship the same God and believe in the Old Testament. The Old Testament sets out who God is and what he expects.

But the OT is full of evil doings - surely that is not what we should be following!! And it was written by human beings not by god - and moreover, male human beings seeking to reinforce their dominance with threats of divine retribution.

None of my Christian friends believe a word of the OT but try to follow the spirit of the NT.

None of my Christian friends believe a word of the OT but try to follow the spirit of the NT.

Most unusual...

And not to forget what we now call Gnostic Christian’s, some of the earliest Christian’s who believed the Old Testament god was the evil Demiurge