God is the creator so who created god

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I’ll nail my colors to the mast first….. I’m not a believer but I also know currently science does not have all the answers to the origins of life

However

I have known Christian’s who believe in god because it answers the two questions we can’t yet answer - where did we come from and what happens when we die

of comfort is gained from that then fine.

however none had got anything plausible to say to the answer to the thread title - if god created us then who created god. It just pushes the unknown back one step in the chain.

ffs I'm not judging other Christians. I'm pointing out that Christianity, in general, of no particular type, has an impact on people in the UK. to counter the posters assertion that you wouldn't think Christianity is the dominant religion in the UK. stop putting words in my mouth

I'm not putting words into your mouth. Just pointing to the fact you chose to highlight the more extreme and counter to mainstream culture Christian viewpoints from organisations such as the DUP as representative of Christianity's influence. You didn't chose to highlight more positive charitable works the church is involved in such as food banks.

I chose to mention a party that until very recently was in power and making laws.

I chose to mention a party that until very recently was in power and making laws

In turn I could mention North Korea or Stalin in terms of atheism since they outlawed the church but that would be equally unrepresentative of a huge number of reasonable atheist people...

Steve

considering I was talking about Christianity being the dominant religion in the UK it wouldn't really be relevant wouldn it?

and again I was bot saying the dup represent all Christians so stop fucking saying I am

and again I was bot saying the dup represent all Christians

Pleased to hear it. 🙂 I agree, they're not.

Not a lot of real know-ledge here is there. Just a regurgitation of what has been written or preached.

Please do carry on Mysticguru if you have something original to share.

That’s very helpful- thanks.

djdkdkddkek I've had Muslims say to me "you wouldn't say that to Christians" and it's very revealing that while all religions do get criticised and questioned the believers in each tend to only notice when their own is mentioned so assume that the others are exempt.

if you think about it there's no difference between Jehovah, Allah or Thor so no reason to treat belief in them differently.

I've had Muslims say to me "you wouldn't say that to Christians" and it's very revealing that while all religions do get criticised and questioned the believers in each tend to only notice when their own is mentioned so assume that the others are exempt.

I've noticed that more progressive, left leaning people criticise Christianity, and conservative types are more critical of Muslims. So neither group is wrong, they both experience people criticising- but from different types of people.

I'm not saying this applies to you personally, by the way, just an observation.

Exactly rainbowdaz. I do find it interesting though that there isn't a word for prejudice against the Christian faith, like antisemitism for example. Christianity is openly mocked with talk of sky fairies and imaginary friends. I reported a few highly insulting posts recently, which frustratingly haven't been removed. If someone was to come on here and say something derogatory about the prophet Muhammad or slag off the Quran it would be a different story!

As a side note, in response to the mockers I tend to think of Puddleglum's reaction in The Silver Chair, by C.S.Lewis. He's talking to the enchantress who's trying to convince him and three others that their world doesn't really exist:

People have slagged off Muhammed on here.

Enough with the persecution complex

Ah, you again drbuzzaro. Christianity happens to be the world's most persecuted religion today, so I'd say we've got every right to be offended.
As I said on another thread:

The Apostles gave up their old lives, their homes, their jobs to follow Yeshua. After He was tortured and crucified they went into hiding thinking they would be next, until He appeared to them in a newly resurrected body. They then went out into the world to spread the good news. Almost all of them met violent and gruesome ends and were fully willing to die for their faith.
The Roman Emperor Nero in particular enjoyed persecuting Christians. He would make them into human candles to light his dinner parties. Some of the Christians would sing hymns while burning. They could have avoided this terrible fate by offering sacrifices to the Roman Gods or renouncing their faith, but they chose to die instead. Other punishments for early followers of Christ included beheading, crucifixion and being eaten alive by lions/bears/leopards for sport. Even today in some parts of the world, Christians are prohibited from practicing their faith by law, and in some cases killed.

I see the OP hasn't returned to their own thread and this was, most likely, another poorly masked attempt to stir up religious hatred.

Christianity happens to be the world's most persecuted religion today

do you have a source for this? How is it even measured?

And people being a bit rude on an I telnet forum is not persecution BTW.

There are official figures if you care to look them up and I never said people being rude on a forum counted as persecution.

@drbuzzaro :

where are the official figures?

If you're interested, you can find them. I've wasted enough energy going around in circles.

so your just going to make that incredibly bold claim and not bother backing it up. typical

Okay, just to make you happy drbuzzaro
(in case you missed the screenshot above - this article from March 2022):

'The group Open Doors USA figures that 360 million Christians last year lived in countries where persecution was “significant.” Roughly 5,600 Christians were murdered, more than 6,000 were detained or imprisoned, and another 4,000-plus were kidnapped. In addition, more than 5,000 churches and other religious facilities were destroyed...According to Open Doors, another 39 countries are guilty of “very high persecution.” Christianity is the most persecuted faith.'

Also, an BBC article from 2019:
'The persecution of Christians in parts of the world is at near "genocide" levels, according to a report ordered by Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt.
The review, led by the Bishop of Truro the Right Reverend Philip Mounstephen, estimated that one in three people suffer from religious persecution.
Christians were the most persecuted religious group, it found.
Mr Hunt said he felt that "political correctness" had played a part in the issue not being confronted.
The interim report said the main impact of "genocidal acts against Christians is exodus" and that Christianity faced being "wiped out" from parts of the Middle East.
It warned the religion "is at risk of disappearing" in some parts of the world, pointing to figures which claimed Christians in Palestine represent less than 1.5% of the population, while in Iraq they had fallen from 1.5 million before 2003 to less than 120,000.'

These are but two examples.

are open doors, a Christian organisation official now? the pew research center says something slightly different.

almost like these things are hard to quantify and it's not really a competition...

Of course it's not a competition - if it was nobody's winning any prizes, that's for sure! You brought up the subject of persecution and I addressed it. Haven't clicked on the link, but the PEW research centre says:

'Harassment can include a wide range of actions – from verbal abuse to physical violence and killings – motivated at least in part by the target’s religious identity.
As in previous years, Christians and Muslims experienced harassment in more countries than any other religious groups in 2018. This pattern has remained consistent since the study began in 2007...In 2018, Christians reportedly were harassed in 145 countries, up from 143 countries in 2017...Muslims were harassed in 139 countries in 2018, down slightly from 140 countries in 2017.'

I'm not sure why you're so angry about it all but I sincerely hope you find some peace and healing. Goodnight and God bless.

Of course it's not a competition - if it was nobody's winning any prizes, that's for sure!

your the one whining that 'nobody would say bad things about islam' while acting like getting your feelings hurt on mumsnet is anything akid to persecution. you made it a competition.

and I'm not the one whose angry here.

BTW would it kill you to actually link your sources?