Piddington Roars

[dreamingofgoodhair]

Can I draw your attention to this please ?
A village of 400 people in Oxfordshire, the government want to house 1200 migrants in an old RAF barracks nearby. No consultation and no infrastructure to support.
Before anyone accuses me of being racist, my family make up negates that.

https://thevillagethatroared.org/

Who knows? I don't know the specific circumstances about what happened where you live.

The woman was raped in my local park after being dragged into the tall hedges surrounding the park. The council drastically cut down all these hedges to stumps after this happened. Probably for preventative measures.

They probably would have cut these hedges down had the rape been committed by a white man. The rape was committed by an asylum seeker.

I think it is a good place to put the rather than expensive hotels and private rentals or social housing.

However I also think they should be securely held on the base without being able to leave until they have been vetted and their case to stay here viewed. At that point they are either deported or moved to somewhere more suited to migrant assimilation, where ultimatelytheyare morelikelyto feel happier too. Having these men roam around a community that is too small to meet their needs and overwhelm it should never be a thing.

None of that answers the question. These men women and children are here and they’re claiming asylum. Where are you going to house them?

So the barracks in Paddington is fine if the men are not alllowed to leave?

Of course they should be securely held on base until we know who they are. We owe that to our citizens. To say otherwise is just glib lefty virtue signalling.

50% of people granted asylum in the U.K. are women/children.

A little thought experiment for you. Your home is in danger of being bombed, you have to leave. 150 miles up the road, there is a refugee camp, but you don’t know anyone in the area. You have no connections, and the camp is known to be a pretty awful place. If you go there with your family it could be years you are there, no hope for returning any time soon, you have 2 school age children. You have people you know in Sweden and you speak the language. You could go there and start afresh, get a job, get your children in to school and give them a future. The only way to get there is to make a 600 mile journey on foot by land, then take a boat to Sweden. It might take a few attempts but you think you can do it. There is nowhere near you to apply for a travel visa.

Do you:
A) All travel together, make the long, arduous, treacherous journey to Sweden with two small children in tow, not knowing where the next meal/resting place is available.
B) All stay in the refugee camp, risking disease, no education for your children, no opportunity to provide for your family, and hope you get back home quickly enough so your children’s entire future isn’t damaged.
C) Send the strongest most capable of the group, allowing them to make the journey to somewhere you can get set up, have access to an embassy to get your family the correct travel visas and make their own asylum claims, and enough money to join you in a safer way?

If you pick A or B, you are a liar or an idiot.

Where is more suited to migrant assimilation?

This is a genuine question, I don't know the answer. If they're sent where others from their ethnic background have already settled, that will create a ghetto eventually.

Jesus Christ. You're surely not serious, are you?

Are you offering to take more where you are? Or is it higher already.

Labour also said they’d smash the gangs so barracks, taking your share and pamphlets aren’t really going to cut it.

I think it's a sensible plan. We can't close the hotels and then use council housing - it doesn't exist.

I wish we hadn't closed the hotels - they were working well locally. Now the council are in a bind but there won't be any council housing for locals for a long time.

What does this campaign suggest instead?

Stop pussy footing around and send them back where they came from ffs.

You call me an idiot and think I need educating but it’s comical, but in reality not every funny, that you believe 50% are women and children. I’m sure home office figures may make you believe that and we should always trust and firmly believe our government.

Yes I saw this reported on the news and on YT and goodness, what on earth are the government thinking?? You cannot outnumber a local population with incoming migrants, no matter where they're from, it will unbalance the local society.

How?

Please let me know the steps we would need to take to extricate ourselves from international law, return refugees to countries that refuse to take them, and not start a trade war and plunge ourselves into endless recession?

Seriously ?

To those who say that it was no different when a military base was in use, so 1000 military personnel versus 1000 asylum seekers - in the army you are subject to military discipline and military law as well as UK civil law. If you get charged with a civilian sentence you also get military consequences. Also there are a lot of military offences which are not crimes in civilian life.

I'd rather that than my child be anywhere the white chavs who congregate outside asylum hostels trying to burn alive the people inside, especially given that many of these 'protestors' have criminal records for domestic violence and sexual offences against children.

https://www.endviolenceagainstwomen.org.uk/police-data-shows-1-in-5-men-arrested-during-2024-riots-have-since-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse/

Our local refugee hotels were full of women and children, most of the children were at local schools, so they need council housing to stay. Some have been there for five years. A lot of the women were trafficked, and we can do fuck all about that.

The government needs to speed up processing.

Honestly, I think the whole of Europe needs to revisit the entire legal basis for refugee arrivals and what that means for the modern world, as I don't think the current situation is remotely tenable - and it will get worse and worse as climate wars and famine takes hold. But this will largely mean decisions about which countries' populations will live and which will die. And I think things will need to get very, very bad (and probably with a massive rise in fascism) before that happens.

Leave the ECHR and replace it with a UK bill of rights that exactly mirrors the previous with the right to deport immigrants? What is the issue with that?

That 50% is mostly family reunification which Labour will lower.

different thing altogether.

Labour is not my party.

Conservative Government opened two ex miltary sites, starting in 2020. It was Braverman who first introduced it and if you look at social media, it was widely lauded as a great thing by those who were against the hotels.

If you want to play politics in your debate, its a good idea to have some real facts at your fingertips.

Yes, I was serious. Your OP complained there was no consultation and no infrastructure support. I responded to your complaint.

Or did you actually mean to complain about something other than those two points, but failed for some reason to state it explicitly?

If you had a different concern you should have stated it so that people could respond to it.

It’s fine if you’re keen for the barracks nearby, Labour should do that.

I couldn't care less.

They won't be there forever, might make life more interesting for a while though you don't want rent-a-mob turning up, flag waving and throwing things.