Piddington Roars

[dreamingofgoodhair]

Can I draw your attention to this please ?
A village of 400 people in Oxfordshire, the government want to house 1200 migrants in an old RAF barracks nearby. No consultation and no infrastructure to support.
Before anyone accuses me of being racist, my family make up negates that.

https://thevillagethatroared.org/

I don't recall anyone coming back to answer my question, let alone to definitively say 'No, there will be no extra risk'.

So again -
Are you trying to say that there is hardly any difference to her safety between having 1200 bored men in a camp at the end of her garden and not having them there?

Native inhabitants - who said I only meant white people? I used the term to mean everyone who lives here legally.

For the avoidance of doubt, calling for hotels full of asylum seekers to be burned to the ground is wrong. I had already said it was wrong in the post you are replying to.

And also for the avoidance of doubt, everyone else on the thread can spot the leftie male accusing me of wanting to burn people just because I am saying I don't want towns and villages full of unvetted foreign men from medieval cultures.

Thanks for coming along to mansplain what we think, mate. Your points are disingenuous at best: breathtakingly assumptive/libellous at worst.

Just a few points;

Those people gloating about people drowning are m*rons.
The teenage boy did well.
Many Ukrainians came in as families, fleeing from war.

It is nothing to do with what people look like. Don’t pretend.

It is nothing to do with different life stories… unless that life story happens to include ‘treating women badly as it’s my culture’, or crime. That is one key point – we don’t know.

No one means there aren’t some genuine asylum seekers. I’d be happy to see most of the women in Afghanistan over here as them, for instance.
However strangely it just seems to be Afghan men appearing: what are they fleeing from, the oppression of women?
And why do they all flood here instead of one of the many countries en route?

No one is against legal immigration. (Some) people from other places are welcome… IF they integrate and respect British values.

You say we shouldn’t prejudge asylum seekers, yet you are prejudging those protesting outside hotels.

You reply to our point about not wanting all fighting age men from medieval cultures here by telling us you know a man from a European culture and an African woman here.

The coverage of ‘small boats’/mega dinghys shows only men. The news reports on any who have died on the crossing are generally about women though…

And last but not least, from the government website about one of the three planned asylum centres (talking about 1200 males);
6. Who would reside at this site?
If deemed suitable, the site would accommodate single adult males between the ages of 18 and 65 who have applied for asylum. … The majority of illegal migrants claiming asylum in the UK are single adult males.

Lots to unpick in your rather angry post.

1. Having a point of view isn't 'mansplaining', and calling my post that sounds like whataboutery. Nothing in my post is libellous.

2. It's been explained so many times both why men are often on the boats alone, and why asylum seekers often travel through different countries before claiming in the UK that it's disingenuous to raise this as a point- just like people who pretend not to realise why painting an England flag on a roundabout or flying a tatty English flag from a lampost isn't a threatening gesture to some.

In brief though, if you insist on not understanding why it's mostly men on the boats, it's because familes often pool their resources so that one individual makes the journey- the individual who has the best chance of surviving the journey, which is usually the man. The idea being that the family can join them later. The parents of the neurosurgeon in my wife's family did it in a similar way. Yes Labour have changed/are changing the rules on family reunion, so this might chage the outcome when the news filters through.

The UK invaded and ruled many countries around the world. As a result many asylum seekers have family connections to the UK, or speak English, and want to come here. Just as say, a Chadian asylum seeker or an Algerian seeker might travel to France. Britain has less asylum seekers per capita and in total than many other countries. Countries like Ethiopia can be both a destination for, and a producer of asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are legally allowed to travel through other countries en route to the UK.

A majority of those arriving in the UK are granted asylum. This is a hard and arduous process. In my previous job of working for an MP I've read many asylum seeker interviews and can attest to how hard they are- have you?

Yes, you are right, I do think people who stand outside asylum hostels- many of whom is it proven have criminal records for abuse of women and children- are worse than the asylum seekers inside. I am especially disgusted by those who try to burn their fellow human beings alive because they are asylum seekers. As I hope you are?

I wish you could meet some of the successful asylum seekers I know and just talk to them, hear their stories and see what amazing jobs they now do in the UK....it might just give you a different perspective.

No, not at all. It's calling out racism. Nothing to do with gender.

And I’m calling out your male privilege and mansplaining.

And you still don’t get it.

So when those men from ‘medieval cultures’ are here legally - ie travelled via regular routes or are granted asylum - that’s ok with you?

You've called me thick and racist and expect me not to be angry?
Your entire posts are explaining down to people. As you happen to be a man, I have referred to that as mansplaining.
You're not listening to any of my points, let alone understanding them.
And I really wish you could meet some of the victims of asylum seekers, although I fear you'd ignore or blame the victims in some way.

He really doesn't. And he has the gall to keep lecturing us.

@OneFunBrickNewt

You have pulled out every cliche about asylum seekers including “neurosurgeon”. Do you honestly think all these hotels/camps are stuffed with flippin’ neurosurgeons ? You’ve “read asylum claims” -ffs. No one is going to write, “I am a criminal fleeing justice in my own country. I thought I’d come to Britain for a house, benefits and for easy women.”

And then you mention “tatty flags”, “racism” - yeah yeah. We should all SHUT UP and if women are raped and assaulted then too bloody bad in your elevated view.

Here comes The Man.

He knows everything and every single migrant because he’s married to one, so clearly his experience trumps everything.

25% of asylum seekers are women and children. I posted a link earlier.

The Uk has fewer asylum applicants and than many other countries en route from Asia and Africa. And almost all of the European ones provide more financial and practical resources than the UK. People are not really coming here for benefits. However opportunities to work illegally are more frequent here, and that could well be a draw.

Government action on this has improved but could be stronger. And as consumers we can do our best to not participate. Don’t use food delivery places or takeaways or nail bars etc unless you know and trust them.

Gosh yes. His experience definitely supersedes the suffering of the immigrant rape victim I know. She's just collateral damage.

With the numbers coming in, that 75% is a huge amount of men though.

Lots of other countries also seem to be having problems with asylum seekers. What we provide them is incredibly generous.

I agree we have to vote with our feet where we can.

Also, some of the children often turn out to be grown men.

Also, I don’t understand why the Man thinks posters here support violent protests.

I’m categorically against all and every forms of violence.

46,000 small boat arrivals in 2025, so about 34/35k men who arrive without documents, some of whom are accompanied by women and/or children.

Yes I wouldn't trust the government stats! They clearly don't know where some of the immigrants are, either, even the ones who were supposed to have been deported... (Latest headline today that bloke found in Essex).

Of course you do

Rhetorical?

With all due respect Crowborough is a much bigger town with a much smaller site. The villages 'chosen' are looking at more asylum seekers than residents. I also live in one of these villages. The Home Office themselves say that cannot house women on the sites for safeguarding reasons. However the same safeguarding doesn't apply to the citizens paying for it that live outside the gate. There is no democratic process or local voice or planning. The government have changed the laws so they apply to themselves for planning, and local residents aren't allowed to see it. Our base isn't some remote site but right at the heart of our village of 600. For those saying that there were forces based there; there is really strong rules, purpose and discipline in the forces. Anyone thinking that 1500 men of 5 different cultures, with no family structures, and nothing to do are going to be sitting around singing kumbaya is niave.

Useful contribution.

What makes you think it makes a difference?

also the Home Office plan in our village will see women outnumber 6 to 1: The village is literally a road and there is nowhere to go. I can't see how anyone, whatever your views on immigration policies can argue for this being a reasonable plan

I’ve taken your advice… I’ve gone… I’ve figured…and yep, it’s still genocide.

Are there female officers working in men’s jails? You know, there’s places filled with sex starved men (whatever the hell that means).