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EasternStandard · 28/09/2025 16:24

gamerchick · 28/09/2025 16:12

I think it's a mint idea me. All the frothing has been highly entertaining. Grin

Good luck when a party you don’t like gets in. Probably no grinning emojis, possibly ‘frothing’.

NorfolkandBad · 28/09/2025 17:06

Flyingintotheunknown · 28/09/2025 12:39

I’ve seen somewhere that it’s Tony Blair’s son. Is this correct?

Indeed - the man (Blair) who pushed for ID cards some years back is father to the founder of the company that is favoured / selected, I'm sure it will be all open and above board, no favouritism there of course, and there's no risk of anything going wrong, like our data* being sold.

*for those who think ID cards are a good thing, try and imagine what your phone is capturing every minute and will be passing to the Government, where you shop, where you go, how fast you get there etc. etc. How long before the initial "well it's only to stop immigration / black market etc." becomes "well you only need to scan your id to use a bus" and "sorry, you spoke out about Tier Starmer, can't travel on the bus today"

I'll happily be proved wrong in the above - but I'm not willing to risk that I may be right, it's our kids and their kids and .. that will start to live under the full control of the Government, and once they get control, it will be very hard to take it away. Too late to say "oh dear, I didn't think they'd actually do that"

Flyingintotheunknown · 28/09/2025 17:13

NorfolkandBad · 28/09/2025 17:06

Indeed - the man (Blair) who pushed for ID cards some years back is father to the founder of the company that is favoured / selected, I'm sure it will be all open and above board, no favouritism there of course, and there's no risk of anything going wrong, like our data* being sold.

*for those who think ID cards are a good thing, try and imagine what your phone is capturing every minute and will be passing to the Government, where you shop, where you go, how fast you get there etc. etc. How long before the initial "well it's only to stop immigration / black market etc." becomes "well you only need to scan your id to use a bus" and "sorry, you spoke out about Tier Starmer, can't travel on the bus today"

I'll happily be proved wrong in the above - but I'm not willing to risk that I may be right, it's our kids and their kids and .. that will start to live under the full control of the Government, and once they get control, it will be very hard to take it away. Too late to say "oh dear, I didn't think they'd actually do that"

I completely agree with you. Couldn’t trust this government (and Tony Blair) as far as I could throw them. Both are renowned for telling lies.

I definitely think you are right in everything you say. I just can’t see any other reason for them. They definitely aren’t going to stop illegal migration or illegal working, just as NI numbers and ID have proved it doesn’t. Neither has ID been proven effective in dealing with the black market.

ANTIHEROTAYLORSWIFT · 28/09/2025 21:51

Flyingintotheunknown · 28/09/2025 12:39

I’ve seen somewhere that it’s Tony Blair’s son. Is this correct?

Correct. Euan Blair who was arrested in 2000 for being drunk in Leicester Square at the age of 16 and gave a false name, age and an old address to police but is now in line to roll out digital id to prove who you are.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/822513.stm

BBC News | UK | Final warning for Blair's son

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/822513.stm

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OddsReally · 29/09/2025 12:00

ANTIHEROTAYLORSWIFT · 28/09/2025 21:51

Correct. Euan Blair who was arrested in 2000 for being drunk in Leicester Square at the age of 16 and gave a false name, age and an old address to police but is now in line to roll out digital id to prove who you are.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/822513.stm

I have asked previously on this thread, please can you provide the information about Euan Blair’s company being awarded this contract?

I can only find information that this will be DSIT led and that Euan Blair’s company focuses on learning and coaching, including apprenticeships.

NorfolkandBad · 29/09/2025 14:47

OddsReally · 29/09/2025 12:00

I have asked previously on this thread, please can you provide the information about Euan Blair’s company being awarded this contract?

I can only find information that this will be DSIT led and that Euan Blair’s company focuses on learning and coaching, including apprenticeships.

There's quite a few sources stating the favoured app to be supplied is owned by his company but I can't find anything actually stating this in black and white so could all be supposition due to Tony Bs involvement in ID schemes, or maybe I've missed something - or maybe a leak has been plugged.

I didn't mention a contract being awarded, not sure if anyone else did, I said favoured.

OddsReally · 29/09/2025 16:51

NorfolkandBad · 29/09/2025 14:47

There's quite a few sources stating the favoured app to be supplied is owned by his company but I can't find anything actually stating this in black and white so could all be supposition due to Tony Bs involvement in ID schemes, or maybe I've missed something - or maybe a leak has been plugged.

I didn't mention a contract being awarded, not sure if anyone else did, I said favoured.

So no actual links with factual information to one of the things posters are enraged about.
No facts about Euan Blair being likely to profit from the introduction of ID cards?

Misinformation? Lies? Media spin?

NorfolkandBad · 29/09/2025 19:16

OddsReally · 29/09/2025 16:51

So no actual links with factual information to one of the things posters are enraged about.
No facts about Euan Blair being likely to profit from the introduction of ID cards?

Misinformation? Lies? Media spin?

As accurate as claiming Reform will get rid of the NHS.

I gave my source, even tried to find further info, and gave a possible explanation - I could have ignored you if I was "Misinformation? Lies? Media spin?" as people do when challenged to provide facts about Reform / Trump / Farage / anyone right of Jeremy Corbyn. Time will tell if it's actually wrong or a leak of information, I assume the people making the claims have got more information than I'm privy too - haven't seen any denials from the Blair "we are considerably richer than you" household.

OddsReally · 29/09/2025 20:58

NorfolkandBad · 29/09/2025 19:16

As accurate as claiming Reform will get rid of the NHS.

I gave my source, even tried to find further info, and gave a possible explanation - I could have ignored you if I was "Misinformation? Lies? Media spin?" as people do when challenged to provide facts about Reform / Trump / Farage / anyone right of Jeremy Corbyn. Time will tell if it's actually wrong or a leak of information, I assume the people making the claims have got more information than I'm privy too - haven't seen any denials from the Blair "we are considerably richer than you" household.

Thanks for responding. Others who have made this claim haven't even tried to back it up with facts and hard evidence.

Amazing how information becomes true and is repeated without evidence.

summerlovingvibes · 03/10/2025 07:45

The petition has had a response.

Basically the government have said "tough shit we're introducing it". They have said it won't be compulsory, but will be required for several things such as the right to work. Employers will have to do "right to work checks" therefore anyone wanting to work in the UK will need to have one.

I feel fuming as would like them to have at least acknowleged the huge number of signatures the petition gained and the clear outcry for a proper consultation on the matter.

StrongLikeMamma · 03/10/2025 08:06

Lemoncanine · 25/09/2025 23:55

Am LONGING for this! Should change so many things, and really reduce the size of the black economy

Hmmm don’t think it will.

StrongLikeMamma · 03/10/2025 08:07

summerlovingvibes · 03/10/2025 07:45

The petition has had a response.

Basically the government have said "tough shit we're introducing it". They have said it won't be compulsory, but will be required for several things such as the right to work. Employers will have to do "right to work checks" therefore anyone wanting to work in the UK will need to have one.

I feel fuming as would like them to have at least acknowleged the huge number of signatures the petition gained and the clear outcry for a proper consultation on the matter.

What’s the difference between having to have a NI number / photo id in order to work now ?

I’ll still pay my cleaner cash in hand.. i can’t honestly see the issue? 🤷🏻‍♀️

StrongLikeMamma · 03/10/2025 08:09

Neveranynamesleft · 26/09/2025 00:18

How will this be funded ??

Good point - the VAT from private schools? Taxing the 1% more?

tanstaafl · 03/10/2025 08:11

StrongLikeMamma · 03/10/2025 08:09

Good point - the VAT from private schools? Taxing the 1% more?

Maybe a ‘special tax’ just to pay for the implementation…. That will never be removed.

milveycrohn · 04/10/2025 16:58

Immigrants already have a visa which does (or not) give them the right to work. I should know, my DDIL is an immigrant (family visa).
The 'black economy' don't check, so what makes anyone think they'll start now?
There are already spot checks on employers.
What worries me, is that we already have examples of people's bank accounts being frozen if they speak out of turn. I'm thinking of the Canadian truck strikers but bank accounts have been frozen here as well (Nigel Farage, etc). In China it goes further and you need your smart phone to access many basic services. I'm concerned about some elderly people who just cannot manage a snart phone.

ANTIHEROTAYLORSWIFT · 05/10/2025 18:23

Not sure why this was deleted but am adding it again.

Digital ID: Snuck In Against the Public’s Will! Labour Twist Their Manifesto to Push It Through

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XYu-gitmG1E&t=39s

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=39s&v=XYu-gitmG1E

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senua · 05/10/2025 20:32

Apparently they are going to 'consult' and then implement this before the end of this Parliament. How on earth are they going to introduce a major, nationwide computer exercise like that (more than 30 million people) and make it secure and hack-proof. All in 4 years?

gamerchick · 05/10/2025 22:23

summerlovingvibes · 03/10/2025 07:45

The petition has had a response.

Basically the government have said "tough shit we're introducing it". They have said it won't be compulsory, but will be required for several things such as the right to work. Employers will have to do "right to work checks" therefore anyone wanting to work in the UK will need to have one.

I feel fuming as would like them to have at least acknowleged the huge number of signatures the petition gained and the clear outcry for a proper consultation on the matter.

I dunno I don't blame them me. Too many people with YouTube degrees pushing back against anything and everything.

EasternStandard · 06/10/2025 07:35

gamerchick · 05/10/2025 22:23

I dunno I don't blame them me. Too many people with YouTube degrees pushing back against anything and everything.

Some back Starmer no matter what but it’s a falling number.

senua · 06/10/2025 08:34

gamerchick · 05/10/2025 22:23

I dunno I don't blame them me. Too many people with YouTube degrees pushing back against anything and everything.

I heard on the radio this morning that the mission-creep has started already. Starmer wants to change the system for buying and selling houses. It will require digital ID.

  • The full list of proposed mandatory upfront information includes: tenure, council tax band, EPC rating, property type, legal and transactional information such as title information and seller ID verification, leasehold terms, building safety data, standard searches, property condition assessments tailored to property age and type, service charges, planning consents, flood risk data, chain status, and clear floor plans.
  • Deploying the use of digital tools – including digital property logbooks, digital ID verification, and standardised data sharing – enhancing transparency and security for buyers and sellers.

Gov.uk

Families to save hundreds of pounds in major homebuying overhaul

First-time buyers set to save money when buying a home and timelines reduced with a new consultation launched by the Government.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/families-to-save-hundreds-of-pounds-in-major-homebuying-overhaul

crunchylamp · 06/10/2025 12:45

@senua

That is quite a list!

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