Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194

The government has so much data on you but in about 100 different databases. I belong that really limited the ability to do quick schemes during Covid. Most of the systems are legacy and held together with gaffa tape. A purpose built system works in many countries, Estonia which didn’t have the legacy issues is doing great stuff with this. Give us a passport and this, all will be easier. About half my team don’t have a UK passport I’m much more confident about their right to work than those with UK passports which could be fake - accent’s knowledge about their lives gives me some confidence, but that’s actually borderline racist as I may be less trusting of someone likely born iverseas. I’m all for it - and hated it when Blair suggested it, but this is more about managing digital data than carrying a card at all times.

I think it's a good idea

I don't have a problem with ID cards, many countries have them as standard. My problem is the requirement for them to be digital.

It's gone over the 1,000,000 count now. In just a few hours. It must be the biggest / quickest petition ever.
Starmer was on a sticky wicket before this. Now he's toast.

As if we, the proletariat have any say these days 🙄

Great idea. I've had immense issues with elderly relatives not having current photo id. I also had a problem myself when I lost my photo card driving license and my passport had expired.

Am in favour as long as the non smart phone options are sensible for those without.

Yeah, note how he says he wants to rush it through before we can have a say the next election.

This.

I think it's a great idea. Most other countries have them and even here we are used to having to prove our identity this just makes it simpler. I haven't heard one compelling argument against them

Totally in favour of ID cards. Other countries manage perfectly well with them. Just hope the government doesn’t make a mess of it as they are prone to do with so many things.

Nonsense, The petition against Brexit was huge as were the demonstrations nothing happened

I’m not totally against it nowadays (all of our data is out there). But we’ve survived just fine without digital ID. It’s superfluous. And we’re not Sweden. We don’t do things like this well.
When a government wants to rush-deliver schemes like this one, it’s never for the benefit of the greater good, especially when it’s being rolled out under the watch of such dreadful leadership (can’t remember the last time we had decent leadership, in all honesty).

If numbers flow through to votes then Labour could panic. They dismissed other petitions but then reversed the WFA after the local elections. They might try to ignore a petition but they tend to notice when votes mean their jobs are not secure.

And that’s the big security risk. By bringing it all into one place you are making it a target for hackers and bad actors. And the government is proposing to use One LogIn which has multiple significant security concerned. As recently as March this year, IT security consultancy Cyberis revealed a serious vulnerability allowing privileged access to the system to be compromised without detection by security monitoring tools, raising concerns about potential exposure of personal data and software code. This is despite having earlier warnings from the National Cyber Security Centre (Sept 2023). which identified "severe shortcomings" in cyber security, including a "risk of impersonation leading to mass fraud" and a "bulk personal data breach". The NCSC concluded at that time that the system's current design and operating procedures left significant risks. And there are other failed audits. So despite warnings over the years it is still poses significant security risks some of which appear to be regarding its inherent design.

In July 2022, a whistleblower raised concerns, reporting that the digital identity team lacked sufficient security and assurance personnel, had no formal risk or threat assessment, and no information security management system was in place.

A cyber security expert has today described the system as a "honeypot" for cybercriminals due to its scale and comprehensiveness, making it far more attractive than past breaches like the NHS hack. And that a ‘nightmare scenario" involves a single breach exposing the entire population's data, which could be used for identity fraud, scams, and targeted phishing, on a nationwide scale.

This is not a safe and innocuous solution.

In favour of ID.

I have nothing to hide, pay my taxes (42% of my wage every month), have a passport, driving licence etc.

Wouldn't make any difference to me and I'd be pleased that more people will be held to account for supporting our public services through having to show who they are before working.

An interesting read:

www.thatalexwoman.com

It's going to be digital in the vast majority of cases (except possibly for those who don't have or want smartphones, like my 90 year old mother for instance).

So you won't have a problem unless you intend to lose your phone.

No. It's not the biggest and quickest ever. That was the petition for a second referendum after the Brexit one in 2016. You obviously didn't see that one but this one isn't even close to it.

I've worked in cyber security for years. It is possible to secure the data, however it is unlikely that they will create a single data set. More likely they will query the existing systems with a new front end, therefore the risk is no greater than currently. Since the NHS got hacked already, along with most other government departments, it is all a bit meh.

My actual objection is not that. My objection is that there is a process to stop people bypassing employment laws. This should be fixed in preference to starting something new. It would help my to have a single front end, so they can crack on.

If this is the best he can come up with to stopping the boats then give him some bus fare home.

Nah won't be signing. I am fine with id and can see benefits. To anyone saying we need to educate ourselves, I am fine with my level of research, I just don't agree with you.

I don’t have a problem with it. I’ve got nothing to hide and the government has all my data anyway.

You seem to be forgetting that there are equal numbers who really approve of this.

I also think there are more undocumented that we think, which is nothing to go with immigration. There are closed communities where births are not recorded

https://x.com/kemibadenoch?lang=en-GB :

“Labour’s “Digital ID” gimmick won’t stop the boats. It’s a desperate distraction from their scandals. We won’t back any system that makes ID mandatory for British citizens. Only Conservatives have a real plan to secure our borders.

It turns out this Digital ID announcement is an idea from Labour Together, the very organisation embroiled in the latest Downing Street sleaze scandal involving the PM's own Chief of Staff.

Conservatives will oppose any push by this organisation or the government to impose mandatory ID cards on law abiding citizens.

There are arguments for and against digital ID eg many people already use digital identity for banking and online services. We’re certainly not opposed to that. But mandating ID is a different matter altogether. We will not support any system that is mandatory for British people or excludes those of us who choose not to use it from any of the rights of our citizenship.”