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To post a list of Vigils

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discobrain · 14/02/2023 15:00

This is a thread on twitter for the current list of vigils for the murdered girl Brianna Ghey, around the country.

Listed here

Rest in power, precious girl.

OP posts:
Printef · 14/02/2023 18:46

Clymene · 14/02/2023 17:21

Over 50 teenagers have been murdered in the last year, most of them knifed, most of them by other teenagers.

I wonder why there aren't vigils up and down the country for them? I can only think it's because many of them are black.

Or is there some other reason I'm missing?

I was just about to say this. Young black teenagers are stabbed on a miserably regular basis. Pious vigil advertising doesn’t seem to crop up on MN after that.

it’s almost like there’s an agenda. Or more than one.

Ethelfromnumber73 · 14/02/2023 18:49

I live in Holly Newton's town. I didn't attend the remembrance event for her as I didn't personally know her and for me, it felt inappropriate to be a bystander. There were no 'vigils' up and down the country for her despite the circumstances of her death (M on F violence) potentially affecting 51% of the population. Of course this is being politicised.

viques · 14/02/2023 18:49

TidyDancer · 14/02/2023 17:45

100% agree with this. A child who had their whole life to live and grow has been murdered and the whole tragic and heartbreaking aftermath is being exploited by those with a political agenda. Really sad and likely to compound a lot of the genuine grief for those who are struggling with the loss.

Another one who sadly agrees. It will be interesting to see who turns up.

I hope the vigils bring some comfort to Brianna’s family, but I have a feeling they would prefer not to have their grief hijacked .

Coldilox · 14/02/2023 18:51

@Discobrain I have seen the ever growing list of vigils. I’m Manchester and unfortunately can’t attend due to work commitments, but she will be in my thoughts. A well known outspoken Twitter transphobe has already said he will be going to disrupt it 😥

RedToothBrush · 14/02/2023 18:51

WaityWTF · 14/02/2023 18:40

People have already decided what has happened. That before the police themselves have managed to establish a motive What does this mean it terms of justice? Wil there be a mob at the trial? Even if the police say they don't believe that hate was a mitigating factor

@RedToothBrush where were you on the various threads speculating about the motives and causes of the very recent murder of the Epsom head teacher? They started the moment news broke. Are you posting with your worries about mobs and justice there?

The one where the police said almost immediately that they weren't looking for anyone else?

No mass vigils there was there?

Getir · 14/02/2023 18:51

viques · 14/02/2023 18:49

Another one who sadly agrees. It will be interesting to see who turns up.

I hope the vigils bring some comfort to Brianna’s family, but I have a feeling they would prefer not to have their grief hijacked .

i have a feeling they will want to know why their girl was targeted.

Eyerollcentral · 14/02/2023 18:51

WaityWTF · 14/02/2023 18:44

ghouls crowing

Where are you seeing this?

Clue: you aren’t

@WaityWTF ‘Given it’s a possible hate crime it should be a political agenda. A hate crime up by the likes of JK Rowling and Co.’ Didn’t scroll back through the full thread but this one jumped out as an example. Great to see that was your only take away from my post 👍🏻

Clymene · 14/02/2023 18:52

Coldilox · 14/02/2023 18:51

@Discobrain I have seen the ever growing list of vigils. I’m Manchester and unfortunately can’t attend due to work commitments, but she will be in my thoughts. A well known outspoken Twitter transphobe has already said he will be going to disrupt it 😥

Either post a screenshot or I'm going to say you're lying.

Coldilox · 14/02/2023 18:53

Clymene · 14/02/2023 18:52

Either post a screenshot or I'm going to say you're lying.

As requested

To post a list of Vigils
ColdHandsHotHead · 14/02/2023 18:55

LewisCapaldisCamelToe · 14/02/2023 17:24

OP hasn't mentioned an agenda, hasn't alluded to an agenda, it's sick and sad that anyone is trying to derail this.

I'll be looking at the list now, to see if there's one near me, otherwise I might try organise one near me.

Thanks for posting this OP. Rest in power, Brianna.

This. And the people who are accusing the OP of having an agenda are actually the ones with the agenda.

WaityWTF · 14/02/2023 18:56

you are the one who has drawn that comparison rather clumsily

By what? Mentioning that there’s a massive paper trail on her being bullied for literally years?

Even the police official line is that they are investigating all lines, including possible hate crime based on her trans status.

Meanwhile, over on FWR posters are suddenly a-ok with “they” pronouns so they can avoid using she, and whistling nonchalantly whilst forgetting all the times they’ve called parents of trans children child abusers, and trans children deluded liars.

And here they are telling other posters it’s not OK to share where to attend a vigil for her.

Take a look at yourselves.

I don’t know why she was murdered. No one does right now except the ones who killed her.

But back off with telling trans allies and non GC posters to stop talking about her. GC posters would have used her for political point scoring any day of the week, like any trans girl in school, college, or just living their life. You don’t get to dictate how other people pay respects to her right now.

Eyerollcentral · 14/02/2023 18:56

Coldilox · 14/02/2023 18:53

As requested

I don’t know who this guy is but he hasn’t said he will be disrupting the vigil? He said the last time he tweeted about attending a vigil he was arrested. Do you know anything about the previous circumstances he is describing?

VictorStrand · 14/02/2023 18:57

I'm not sure the Sarah Everard vigil is a good example since certain individuals used it as a basis to position themselves as activists, to build a career and get a book deal.

I hope the Brianna vigils pass safely. Some of the posts on here point to people having a very specific, disruptive, anti-women agenda that will keep lots of people away. But hopefully the organisers will be able to weed them and their inflammatory signs out. They have no place at a vigil and some (on Twitter) are veering very close to prejudicing any future case.

I think anything that highlights the horror of teen-on-teen knife crime is a positive. Maybe we should organise vigils for all of them. The sheer volume might prompt the police and politicians to act.

thedogsmababy · 14/02/2023 18:57

Dis you know her @discobrain ?

thedogsmababy · 14/02/2023 18:57

*did

DogSaysWoof · 14/02/2023 18:58

Printef · 14/02/2023 18:46

I was just about to say this. Young black teenagers are stabbed on a miserably regular basis. Pious vigil advertising doesn’t seem to crop up on MN after that.

it’s almost like there’s an agenda. Or more than one.

Just in London last year.
It's an epidemic.
Unfortunately, only a select few get heavily featured in the media.

www.londonworld.com/news/crime/london-teenage-homicides-2022-names-faces-every-young-person-killed-capital-this-year-3804019

Eyerollcentral · 14/02/2023 19:00

WaityWTF · 14/02/2023 18:56

you are the one who has drawn that comparison rather clumsily

By what? Mentioning that there’s a massive paper trail on her being bullied for literally years?

Even the police official line is that they are investigating all lines, including possible hate crime based on her trans status.

Meanwhile, over on FWR posters are suddenly a-ok with “they” pronouns so they can avoid using she, and whistling nonchalantly whilst forgetting all the times they’ve called parents of trans children child abusers, and trans children deluded liars.

And here they are telling other posters it’s not OK to share where to attend a vigil for her.

Take a look at yourselves.

I don’t know why she was murdered. No one does right now except the ones who killed her.

But back off with telling trans allies and non GC posters to stop talking about her. GC posters would have used her for political point scoring any day of the week, like any trans girl in school, college, or just living their life. You don’t get to dictate how other people pay respects to her right now.

You drew the comparison with Sarah Everard very clumsily. That was very clearly said in my post. You’ve gone off on a frolic of your own there extrapolating into issues which are nothing to do with any of my posts and without addressing the substance of them. You’ve made sweeping statements that you can’t back up. Maybe take time to take a look at yourself before castigating all and sundry.

Coldilox · 14/02/2023 19:01

Eyerollcentral · 14/02/2023 18:56

I don’t know who this guy is but he hasn’t said he will be disrupting the vigil? He said the last time he tweeted about attending a vigil he was arrested. Do you know anything about the previous circumstances he is describing?

Yes he was arrested for
disrupting the Trans Vigil of Remembrance at last year’s Sparkle event in Manchester

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/02/2023 19:01

iklboo · 14/02/2023 18:27

Have a think about why you’re so keen to push back against vigils for Brianna Ghey, who is a trans girl, and was murdered.

It makes no difference to me that Brianna was a trans girl. Unless you're the police and have cracked the case it hasn't been definitively proven what the motive was.

I will not go to 'vigils' for people who I have never known, or with families who I will never know. They've not asked for this as far as I can see. They're grieving for the loss of their daughter. Vigils won't change the outcome and it won't bring Brianna back.

How many times have you seen a vigil sharing thread for a murdered person on mn get hijacked by people saying it’s not ok to share about their vigils because it’s political point scoring? None. Exactly none.

Exactly how many vigil sharing threads have you seen, posted on and followed to know this? It's not exactly a daily occurrence on MN.

I follow and post on vigil threads on Mnet. And I attended the vigils.💙

Clymene · 14/02/2023 19:02

You have reading comprehension problems @Coldilox

Eyerollcentral · 14/02/2023 19:02

Coldilox · 14/02/2023 19:01

Yes he was arrested for
disrupting the Trans Vigil of Remembrance at last year’s Sparkle event in Manchester

What did he do to disrupt it? I don’t know anything about it.

WaityWTF · 14/02/2023 19:03

I have a feeling they would prefer not to have their grief hijacked .

Unless you actually know them, you have no clue, and projecting your political agenda onto their imagined preferences is crass in the extreme.

AmeliaEarhart · 14/02/2023 19:04

Most vigils tend to be politicised. It’s a way of showing you have strong feelings about the circumstances under which a person has died. I considered attending one in London for Sarah Everard because I have strong feelings about how unsafe women and girls are, and if I’d known about any for Olly Stephens, I might also have considered as the parent of a vulnerable child with ASD.

I find Brianna’s death so sad and frightening because it’s very likely she was killed for being different. A different kind of “different” to my child, but it still highlights the inability of a section of society to be able to tolerate any deviation from a very narrow set of social norms. That said, it should be possible to condemn this lack of tolerance while still respecting the concerns of women about trans people in women’s sports, prisons etc, and it’s disappointing to see the issues conflated.

LaForza101 · 14/02/2023 19:06

@Eyerollcentral is it that hard for you to Google and do your own research on this rather than disrupt the thread?

Thanks OP for providing the vigil list. I didn't realise there was a vigil close to me and I would like to pay my respects

PoliticalFootball · 14/02/2023 19:06

Rest in Peace Brianna. I hope the family find solace in knowing so many people have been affected by your death. I can't imagine what your parents are going through - as a forum of mostly mother's, I am sure that we all feel deeply saddened by the loss of a young life in such horrific circumstances.

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