To post a list of Vigils

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This is a thread on twitter for the current list of vigils for the murdered girl Brianna Ghey, around the country.

Listed here

Rest in power, precious girl.

@Arguelikeagrownup - But there aren't vigils up and down the country for all the other children murdered.

Why aren't there? Why is this child's murder more tragic than all the rest of them?

To quote the many GC people scrambling to make this not a trans tragedy:

let the police do their job, stop jumping to conclusions about causality, and how dare you turn this into political point scoring

or, oh I’m so sorry, does that only work in one direction?

If you want a vigil organise one.

POSSIBLE. It’s also just as POSSIBLE this tragic death is part of the scourge of knife crime across the UK. It’s really wrong that so many people are hanging their hats on this death when clearly the dgaf about young people getting stabbed to death nearly every other day of the week.

The OP posted a list of vigils. Nothing more. Look at who has derailed the thread.

That’s great Clymene. You’re right, and I guess you’ve shared or even initiated vigils for those kids too.

How many times have you seen a vigil sharing thread for a murdered person on mn get hijacked by people saying it’s not ok to share about their vigils because it’s political point scoring?

None.

Exactly none.

Have a think about why you’re so keen to push back against vigils for Brianna Ghey, who is a trans girl, and was murdered.

This thread reeks of “all lives matter”

I remember when the TRA's were up in arms about BLM not centering THEM enough.

And their response on Twitter now pointing out the black children stabbed that same week not getting ANY of their attention?

Sort it out on your own. We don't care, if you do, do it yourself.

Funny that it was considered evil to say exactly the same thing to them.

Not so funny that they are attempting to use this poor childs death for their own ideological ends.

I have never attended a vigil and probably never will. It doesn't mean I don't care.

I never knew her, sad as it is. What is the purpose may I ask?

Have a think about why you’re so keen to push back against vigils for Brianna Ghey, who is a trans girl, and was murdered.

It makes no difference to me that Brianna was a trans girl. Unless you're the police and have cracked the case it hasn't been definitively proven what the motive was.

I will not go to 'vigils' for people who I have never known, or with families who I will never know. They've not asked for this as far as I can see. They're grieving for the loss of their daughter. Vigils won't change the outcome and it won't bring Brianna back.

How many times have you seen a vigil sharing thread for a murdered person on mn get hijacked by people saying it’s not ok to share about their vigils because it’s political point scoring? None. Exactly none.

Exactly how many vigil sharing threads have you seen, posted on and followed to know this? It's not exactly a daily occurrence on MN.

"Brianna was bullied for years for being trans. There’s a trail of paper evidence in the public domain on that, with MPs involved."

@WaityWTF if that's true, and that's what this crime is about, then it's appalling and tragic. But Brianna's death is appalling and tragic anyway, as are the deaths of the other youngsters.

We are up in arms, and rightly so, when missing children only get traction if they are white and photogenic. We need to highlight all these young deaths, and the epidemic of violence among our children, not only one.

Let's be honest, the media and public are very selective and inconsistent about who they hold big memorials for and grieve for.

It's always been the case. Clearly people feel more sorry for this girl than other teens.

Forgot to say the police and all the reports I've seen have specifically said 'no evidence it's a hate crime, please don't speculate'.

It's awful for the family. I hope the vigils have been organised with their permission.

Seriously?

You all must have missed the extensive vigil sharing for Sarah Everard then. And George Floyd.

Try advanced search on the word vigil to find more examples.

Those vigils were not “organised with the permission of the family”

Those vigils were politicised.

Those vigils took place whilst investigations were ongoing, in the immediate shocking aftermath of the news of their murders.

I'm used to it, unfortunately.

This

People have already decided what has happened.

That before the police themselves have managed to establish a motive

What does this mean it terms of justice? Wil there be a mob at the trial? Even if the police say they don't believe that hate was a mitigating factor

From what I've been reading locally, it doesn't sound as straightforward as social media wants everyone to believe.

It's depressing and actually I do fear it could even prejudice a trial ( and thus mean justice isn't served).

Any defence will be looking closely at how this progresses and considering whether they can use this to potentially help their client.

This with bells on.

And my thoughts on those are the same as mine on this.

People have already decided what has happened. That before the police themselves have managed to establish a motive What does this mean it terms of justice? Wil there be a mob at the trial? Even if the police say they don't believe that hate was a mitigating factor

@RedToothBrush where were you on the various threads speculating about the motives and causes of the very recent murder of the Epsom head teacher? They started the moment news broke. Are you posting with your worries about mobs and justice there?

Those vigils @WaityWTF were for a woman who was killed walking home from work. There was no speculation as to why based on her presentation alone. No said it’s an anti-blonde crime. I’m not, unlike many others, reducing Brianna to her presentation, you are the one who has drawn that comparison rather clumsily. I doubt any of the ghouls crowing on this thread would have paid this tragic death any heed whatsoever if it had just been another girl, like the one killed in almost the same way just last week.

Yes it does.

Genuine readers:

The twitter thread is adding new vigils as they pop up, keep an eye out, and thank you.

ghouls crowing

Where are you seeing this?

Clue: you aren’t

Not around the UK as there was no political point to be made out of her tragic death. Thankfully some beautiful local ones which are what actually count for her friends and family.