Schools reopening

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AIBU to share with you UsforThem. It is a group of mums who are campaigning to send children back to school as normal with no restrictions. They can be found on FB and Twitter #UsforThem. There is also a link to sign the petition on FB

@darkcaramel

But how old she is has absolutely nothing to do with that. I’d be pretty pissed off if someone decided my parenting skills were shit because of my age.

She's quite happy to write off a whole section of the older generation by virtue of their age, in her pursuit of childcare. Risk to their health or life? Tough shit, by the sounds of it.

So say that, but you’ve just been extremely insulting about ALL young mums!

She's quite happy to write off a whole section of the older generation by virtue of their age, in her pursuit of childcare. Risk to their health or life? Tough shit, by the sounds of it

Excuse me but where have I said that?

And when have I talked about childcare?

My child needs socialisation. I'm furloughed. I'll return to work to a keyworker job and perhaps then I will need childcare but I'll be quite happy to pay for it, as I do now so PLEASE tell me where you're getting all this shit from?

I think everyone needs to chill out tbh

England and Wales already break up way way after most of Europe.

Keep the kids off and go back for September. It doesn’t have to be such a huge massive deal.

@darkcaramel

I think everyone needs to chill out tbh

England and Wales already break up way way after most of Europe.

Keep the kids off and go back for September. It doesn’t have to be such a huge massive deal.

I'll chill out when people stop posting offensive and completely untrue things about my fucking parenting.

I said EVERYONE needs to chill out!

People who want their kids back aren’t mass murderers of the elderly and people advising caution aren’t sacrificing today’s youth at dawn.

"People who want their kids back aren’t mass murderers of the elderly"

Well, they clearly dont give two hoots about anybody but themselves.

I will be no more ‘at risk’ in a classroom with no SD or PPE than if I went shopping.

Clearly Op doesn't work in reception I don't ever remember someone licking me or asking me to clean up their poo in the shops.

@darkcaramel

I said EVERYONE needs to chill out!

People who want their kids back aren’t mass murderers of the elderly and people advising caution aren’t sacrificing today’s youth at dawn.

This!!!

Part time in school, with social distancing and part time online schooling.

Perhaps @BelleSausage can explain HOW the teachers are going to manage this. The plan for our senior school was to have a third of the school in any week. So the teachers are teaching the same lesson three times, to three separate groups. They are doing the same timetable, marking work, planning in exactly the same way. How are they supposed to ALSO , at the same time, manage the online provision for the 2/3 of children who aren't in school that week? Teachers are mostly great, but haven't quite mastered the old "split yourself in two" trick.

Many schools were not guaranteeing that children from the same families would be in on the same day/week. Some schools were doing one week in, two weeks off, others were doing some days each week and on a changing pattern. Totally unmanageable for any working parents with weak statements from Swinney about how he hoped employers would be "flexible". For the whole year.

As linked to above, there is LOADS of evidence that Covid is worse the older you are. Having looked at the Scottish figures again, there have been ZERO deaths of people under the age of 25, not under 15. In fact, Scotland has only seen 11 deaths of people under the age of 40. I'd assume that many of these people had fairly significant health issues anyway but we'll never know because with such small numbers giving details would potentially identify the individual. There is no reason to think that this general pattern would be repeated UK wide - extremely low numbers in the under 25s.

There really is no justification for keeping children out of school. Teachers can and should distance from each other or any teaching assistants and that should be relatively straightforward. Children don't need to distance from each other as they don't spread it between each other, or to adults.

@TabbyMumz

"People who want their kids back aren’t mass murderers of the elderly"

Well, they clearly dont give two hoots about anybody but themselves.

Oh no just millions of children and their parents

@TrustTheGeneGenie

Nurseries are open full time. You do know that, right?

I also have a daughter starting reception in September. It is an exciting time.

But I still 100% think you are wrong and have no idea what you are talking about.

I’ve been juggling being in school For key worker children with teaching online lessons, planning, marking, cleaning, cooking and full time entertaining a needy four year old for the entire of lockdown. Mostly on my own! (DH works 70 hours a week in industry).

While I get how you feel I think you’re taking the wrong approach. Full time school+ coronavirus+mandatory self isolation within bubbles is going to lead to lots of families constantly in and out of school and work.

It will be a nightmare all round.

But you dont do you genie. All those children have adults in their family, and they arent all young, and what you are doing is encouraging covid to grow. So you clearly only care about yourself, and your child isnt even at school.

You dont care about the children or their parents. Or their teachers, or the teachers families. Just your child.

[quote BelleSausage]@TrustTheGeneGenie

Nurseries are open full time. You do know that, right?

I also have a daughter starting reception in September. It is an exciting time.

But I still 100% think you are wrong and have no idea what you are talking about.

I’ve been juggling being in school For key worker children with teaching online lessons, planning, marking, cleaning, cooking and full time entertaining a needy four year old for the entire of lockdown. Mostly on my own! (DH works 70 hours a week in industry).

While I get how you feel I think you’re taking the wrong approach. Full time school+ coronavirus+mandatory self isolation within bubbles is going to lead to lots of families constantly in and out of school and work.

It will be a nightmare all round.[/quote]
Yes, I do know that. But they've only recently opened. I'm not stupid, you know?

It's not an exciting time. It's supposed to be but it's not. All the joy has been sucked out of it because you're proclaimed a murderer who only cares about themselves if you dare say anything about it.

Well done you. And you want that to continue indefinitely? Why?

I think you're wrong. How will part time help? Kids still won't social distance, self isolation will still happen and you'll have the added bonus of your kids only getting half an education and choosing between quitting your job or trying to juggle it all. Sounds fab!

@TabbyMumz

But you dont do you genie. All those children have adults in their family, and they arent all young, and what you are doing is encouraging covid to grow. So you clearly only care about yourself, and your child isnt even at school.

I do care about them but I actually read and understand their chances (and mine) of getting seriously ill or dying. Please stop telling me what I do and don't think. It's insulting.

For those who don’t think children need to social distance and who argue that those under 25 don’t get seriously ill with it, do you think workplaces could tell all their employees who are under 25 that they are going to squash them in an area that won’t be COVID safe. But that then means they can space out the older employees. Would that be ok, and that the under 25s had no choice in the matter.

"do care about them but I actually read and understand their chances (and mine) of getting seriously ill or dying. Please stop telling me what I do and don't think. It's insulting."
You dont care and you absolutely dont know anyones chances of survival. You think childrens chances are low and dont give two hoots about anyone elses. It's not just about the children. It's about their families too, and their teachers families. I can tell you for one my family members are highly likely to die if they get covid. But you dont factor that in because you dont seem to see beyond the end of your nose. It's totally selfish.

Employers are not allowed to squeeze people on and do business as normal, so why on earth would we do that with our most precious people, our children..who can then spread it right back to our vulnerable. Absolutely crazy.

Can't find 'usforthem Cymru' on a Google search. Is there a website or page for them?

The risk of transmission of CV19 to and from children is vanishingly small. But the risk to their mental, emotional (and in many cases, physical) well-being is immeasurable.

There are many children going hungry. Being abused. Suffering with acute loneliness. Falling behind in education. Self harming. Being neglected.

We need to put them first. Keeping our children sheltered from a virus that is no real threat to anyone under the age of 60 is not putting them first.

Children don't need to distance from each other as they don't spread it between each other, or to adults

Is there any actual proof of this?! Why on earth would a virus which children can get, not be passed on by children?! Why have the Leicester schools been shut? Just for a laugh? No, they are shut because a significant amount of children have tested positive and therefore pose a risk to the community by being in school and passing it around.

If more people have died via Covid than in the Blitz, then l think that is actually quite a high death rate

So do we keep schools closed for another 6 months? Another year?

No, we close from March to July and reopen in September. This apparently has ruined the lives of countless children.

This is one of those throw the Teachers down the well posts.
Because Teachers, bus drivers, dinner ladies , TA’s, office staff...they’re Teflon coated you know.
They don’t actually get the virus. They are immune, they have super special immunity. In fact they have super powers, the virus isn’t real. Kids don’t get it... It was all a dream. yawn.
Just go and take it up with Boris Johnson.