Schools reopening

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AIBU to share with you UsforThem. It is a group of mums who are campaigning to send children back to school as normal with no restrictions. They can be found on FB and Twitter #UsforThem. There is also a link to sign the petition on FB

@TabbyMumz

"I'm not bothered whether you personally send your kids to school or not, you need to make the best decision for your family, of course." No your not bothered, that's my point. But if the rules are that I have to, then you will have got your own little selfish way, wont you.

Hell fire how many times have I said I don't agree with fines!! You should have the choice.

Are you locking your children in a bare room former babe?

I think you missed the word 'theoretically' there. So, no not locked in a room ta, we're out at the shops...which we're at most days as there's not much else to do. It's costing me a fortune.

@TabbyMumz

"Part time schooling is not good enough. It creates an even bigger education gap, it's problematic for working parents, it creates further "bubble" related issues (where do you think the kids are who aren't in school?

It doesnt need to be all kids in full time . It's only been 3 months. Yes, Easter would be fine for me, with online learning till then. High school kids are perfectly fine learning at home on line. Their parents can still work. This is why Boris allowed younger kids back, so their parents can work if they want to.

I think it depends on where you live as each school has been different, but here online learning for any age group has not been fine. It has been muddling along with very little new stuff being taught. My secondary aged child was lucky to get an hour per day work from school and even then it was mostly quiz type things. Certainly not enough education to prepare him for exams.

And it also means that any subject with an element of practical work was out the window under the blended learning as very difficult to do science experiments at home or make things for graphic design.

It also assumes that all children have adequate access to good broadband and it equipment. Many do not. Fast Broadband in the village I live is only available in some streets and mobile phone reception is patchy. Many families share it equipment so if you have multiple kids at home and a parent working from home access is a problem. This left many kids trying to work on their phone. Not the best quality essays using that size of keyboard.

Online learning in this fashion is, at best, a poor back up to quality teaching.

If we want good doctors, nurses,teachers, lawyers in the relatively near future, we need to ensure the kids at secondary school actually get an education, and that's not being delivers online at the moment.

The fact that LAs can fine families who choose to keep their children at home is terrible. @TabbyMumz what do you think you will do?
I've got several children who are very high risk in my class next year. It's worrying.

I don't agree with fines, and think in these times they shouldn't be applied and online learning done by shielding teachers from home should be used for anyone who is unable to return to school as they are vulnerable or have a vulnerable person in the home

The whole situation has cost me a fortune...we've spent nearly a hundred quid on ink cartridges for our printer...we switched broadband providers to get a better service, plus paper, pens, exercise books (surely the schools have a cupboard full of these they could give to the kids at home, they'd use them anyway) craft materials etc...

People calling others selfish should take a look in the mirror at their own attitudes.

@formerbabe

The whole situation has cost me a fortune...we've spent nearly a hundred quid on ink cartridges for our printer...we switched broadband providers to get a better service, plus paper, pens, exercise books (surely the schools have a cupboard full of these they could give to the kids at home, they'd use them anyway) craft materials etc...

Our primary did give us jotters and offered more to anyone who needed them in may.

But we found it almost impossible to do my youngest's work electronically as it was all worksheets so needed to buy a printer. Hardly ideal timing with both parents furloughed and worried about their jobs

@tigger1001 exactly. Then some parents might deregister their children but not actually be in a position to home school. Children could fall off the radar even more.
I think there shouldn't be fines for at least the Autumn term. It would allow parents to make an informed decision based on what happens.

The whole situation has cost me a fortune...we've spent nearly a hundred quid on ink cartridges for our printer...we switched broadband providers to get a better service, plus paper, pens, exercise books (surely the schools have a cupboard full of these they could give to the kids at home, they'd use them anyway) craft materials etc...

Now you've been teaching for a while you're ready to go away and cultivate a more can-do attitude. Moaning like this about money just makes the public less warm towards you @formerbabe . Start pulling some of those resources out of your arse and get smiling about it...

I have no idea why you are making that dig at me. I don't moan or whinge about my dcs school...I always make sure i pay the voluntary contribution each year. I donate when asked to. I always support them. The more important point is whilst I can afford all the extra stuff needed to make home learning easier, many can't. What are poorer families supposed to do?

So a school in our area has just announced it's got to close because someone there has to have a test, with symptoms. So the school will be closed until they get results, and if positive, for 14 days. Think that's a sign of the times to come, especially as the weather gets colder.

And?

Well I think next term will be a nightmare...think how many coughs and colds go round in the autumn/winter anyway. Kids will constantly be sent home...

tabby I do think we needed to close when we did and I do think that a lot of people are being a little bit silly about what really is not a huge amount of time off in the grand scheme of things although I do really feel for years 11 and 13.

However what you want is utterly ridiculous, I’m sorry.

Back in September and all will be well.

"So a school in our area has just announced it's got to close because someone there has to have a test, with symptoms. So the school will be closed until they get results,"

Government guidance is that other pupils or staff may be asked to self isolate if someone else in the class tests positive. Whole schools or classes don't need to be sent home because someone has symptoms.

Spikeyball
Government guidance is that other pupils or staff may be asked to self isolate if someone else in the class tests positive. Whole schools or classes don't need to be sent home because someone has symptoms.

Can you really not see the stupidity of this?

I believe reasoning behind the guidance it that if someone has been in contact with an infected person showing symptoms they don't become capable of infecting anyone themselves until a few days afterwards.

Please read this article by a Leicester doctor. Using PHE stats, he has written a powerful article stating why schools should return with minimum disruption and why he thinks SD is pointless
lockdownsceptics.org/why-leicester-doesnt-need-a-local-lockdown/

I've read it, and although it's a bit tinfoil hat - and hardly from a credible source - the point of asymptomatic carrier numbers being stable is interesting. However, the fact that 99% of testees haven't had it yet is not reassuring.