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You've got another think coming...

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soupyspoon · 26/07/2025 11:46

I mean god preserve us (someone will pick me up that I didn't capitalise god ...)

Another thread, which I think we're not allowed to talk about probably, massive argument about...

You've got another think coming.

People think that it's 'you've got another thing coming'

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BrickBiscuit · 30/07/2025 20:18

BeShyPlumLeader · 30/07/2025 17:30

Err... who cares?

I would of thought it obvious.

slightlydistrac · 30/07/2025 20:33

BrickBiscuit · 30/07/2025 20:18

I would of thought it obvious.

You'd thing so, wouldn't you?😁

BeShyPlumLeader · 30/07/2025 21:55

BrickBiscuit · 30/07/2025 20:18

I would of thought it obvious.

🙄

MyDadWasAnArse · 31/07/2025 08:56

soupyspoon · 26/07/2025 12:22

Both are not correct. It hasnt 'evolved' into anything, its just plain wrong and illogical

People have misheard because of the way 'think' flows into 'coming' and then they mis say it.

I'm pig sick of the "evolving" excuse for rubbish grammar.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 31/07/2025 18:07

Of course, the complicating factor in the expression ‘another think coming’ is that it itself makes the mistake of treating ‘think’ as a discrete process, when of course thinking is continuous one. The process of thinking (a continuous process) might result in a number of thoughts, which are discrete ideas. But the process of thinking isn’t a discrete thing. Which makes the phrase ‘another think coming’ incorrect. It would be better to say ‘if you think xxx, you’d better think again’ 😉

Tryingtokeepgoing · 31/07/2025 18:10

MyDadWasAnArse · 31/07/2025 08:56

I'm pig sick of the "evolving" excuse for rubbish grammar.

To be pedantic, the phrase is ‘as sick as a pig’ isn’t it? Though of course it has evolved into ‘pig sick’… So it would appear you are not against all evolution of the English language 😉

MyDadWasAnArse · 31/07/2025 18:33

Tryingtokeepgoing · 31/07/2025 18:10

To be pedantic, the phrase is ‘as sick as a pig’ isn’t it? Though of course it has evolved into ‘pig sick’… So it would appear you are not against all evolution of the English language 😉

It means the same thing. Would of, another thing coming, defiantly doing something and so on do not.

SharpLily · 31/07/2025 18:33

Tryingtokeepgoing · 31/07/2025 18:07

Of course, the complicating factor in the expression ‘another think coming’ is that it itself makes the mistake of treating ‘think’ as a discrete process, when of course thinking is continuous one. The process of thinking (a continuous process) might result in a number of thoughts, which are discrete ideas. But the process of thinking isn’t a discrete thing. Which makes the phrase ‘another think coming’ incorrect. It would be better to say ‘if you think xxx, you’d better think again’ 😉

"it itself makes the mistake of treating ‘think’ as a discrete process, when of course thinking is continuous one."

Not for everyone, apparently.

SharpLily · 31/07/2025 18:34

Tryingtokeepgoing · 31/07/2025 18:10

To be pedantic, the phrase is ‘as sick as a pig’ isn’t it? Though of course it has evolved into ‘pig sick’… So it would appear you are not against all evolution of the English language 😉

I thought it was 'sick as a dog'.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 31/07/2025 18:45

SharpLily · 31/07/2025 18:34

I thought it was 'sick as a dog'.

I believe the origins of sick as a pig and sick as a dog are different, though of course the meaning is the same. I think the link to dog goes back to the 17th C when dogs were considered to be one of the ways in which the plague was spread. Sick as a pig I think can be linked to the susceptibility of pigs to certain parasites when constantly kept in the same fields. But, words and phrases can mean what you want them to mean… I have heard sick as a parrot, and I’ve no idea where that comes from, unless it’s some sort of bird flu related reference :)

Tryingtokeepgoing · 31/07/2025 18:52

MyDadWasAnArse · 31/07/2025 18:33

It means the same thing. Would of, another thing coming, defiantly doing something and so on do not.

It might mean the same thing and make sense, but it might not. It depends if one is equating how one feels to how unwell a pig feels (as sick as a pig), or one of the outcomes of an unwell pig, which is pig sick (or vomit) 😏

soupyspoon · 31/07/2025 18:57

I thought pig sick, meant pissed off. Whereas sick as a dog meant unwell

So Im pig sick of this, means Im fed up or pissed off with it

Im sick as a dog, means Im not very well, usually from alcoholic refreshment.

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SharpLily · 31/07/2025 19:09

soupyspoon · 31/07/2025 18:57

I thought pig sick, meant pissed off. Whereas sick as a dog meant unwell

So Im pig sick of this, means Im fed up or pissed off with it

Im sick as a dog, means Im not very well, usually from alcoholic refreshment.

Yep. I haven't heard 'sick as a pig' before just now on this thread. (Christ, do we need to start another thread about this dog/pig business now?) 'Sick as a dog' and 'pig sick' but as you say, they have different meanings.

soupyspoon · 31/07/2025 19:16

SharpLily · 31/07/2025 19:09

Yep. I haven't heard 'sick as a pig' before just now on this thread. (Christ, do we need to start another thread about this dog/pig business now?) 'Sick as a dog' and 'pig sick' but as you say, they have different meanings.

I think its your duty to start another thread to work out of people are pig sick or sick as a dog tonight.

I am both. Im pig sick because Im generally pissed off. I am also sick as a dog as I have a headache that is making me feel sicky but equally wanting to eat a load of crisps for 'medicinal reasons'

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SharpLily · 31/07/2025 20:09

I am also both. But if you think I'm going to tell you why you've got another thing coming.

soupyspoon · 31/07/2025 20:11

SharpLily · 31/07/2025 20:09

I am also both. But if you think I'm going to tell you why you've got another thing coming.

I could of predicted that joke.

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BrickBiscuit · 31/07/2025 21:03

Tryingtokeepgoing · 31/07/2025 18:07

Of course, the complicating factor in the expression ‘another think coming’ is that it itself makes the mistake of treating ‘think’ as a discrete process, when of course thinking is continuous one. The process of thinking (a continuous process) might result in a number of thoughts, which are discrete ideas. But the process of thinking isn’t a discrete thing. Which makes the phrase ‘another think coming’ incorrect. It would be better to say ‘if you think xxx, you’d better think again’ 😉

I think (and someone more knowledgeable may correct me) that 'another think' may be behaving as a noun, so one ‘think’. 'To think' is obviously a verb. 'To have a think’ I imagine is phrasal verb (so also a verb). But ‘think’ in the latter is behaving as a noun. Isolated from the phrase, it becomes 'a think', a noun. So one think. To throw something 20 yards is a verb. The resulting 20-yard throw is a noun. How’s my throwing? A gerund. Thus ‘to think’, ‘a think’ and ‘my thinking’. Any help disentangling this would be greatly appreciated.

SharpLily · 31/07/2025 21:50

@BrickBiscuit You are overthinging this.

BrickBiscuit · 01/08/2025 00:31

SharpLily · 31/07/2025 21:50

@BrickBiscuit You are overthinging this.

No, wait, another thing, the 20-yard throw is more obviously a noun, but the movement of my arm is itself ‘a throw’. Two different nouns both called ’throw'. So 'another think’ is not the actual thought itself (that is indeed a thought, not a think), but the act of having that thought. Another throw of the dice, another think coming. Discrete, not continuous. I think I thought think can’t be a thing, but the thing is it can. ‘Throw' can be two things but ‘think' only one. I shan’t sleep tonight with all this excitement. I will never get pig sick of this, but I’ll be sick as a dog if my dinner doesn’t agree with me.

upinaballoon · 01/08/2025 08:47

Did you ever say to your relations, "I've been having a think", and been asked, "And what have you thunk?". Sorry for the de-rail and yes, they did know it should HAVE been 'thought'.

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