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You've got another think coming...

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soupyspoon · 26/07/2025 11:46

I mean god preserve us (someone will pick me up that I didn't capitalise god ...)

Another thread, which I think we're not allowed to talk about probably, massive argument about...

You've got another think coming.

People think that it's 'you've got another thing coming'

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HappiestSleeping · 26/07/2025 14:16

Reallybadidea · 26/07/2025 12:26

I think devolved would be more accurate.

Judas Priest didn't help.

Judas Priest didn't help.

I came to say this. Great song though, especially the version from Judas Priest Live.

HoneyHoneyHowYouThrillMe · 26/07/2025 14:18

Left out an important bit:

My reference says originated in the UK and earlier by quite a few years than the second/incorrect version.

NerdyBird · 26/07/2025 14:18

If I am remembering my many, many, years ago uni linguistics class correctly, this is to do with the ellision (?) of the two ‘k’ sounds in ‘think’ and ‘coming’. It ends up being more of a ‘g’ sound and because ‘thing’ is a word and ‘goming’ isn’t, lots of people hear it as ‘thing’.

latetothefisting · 26/07/2025 14:20

I dont know why people over complicate it. Its literally just saying think twice

"If you think I'm [doing your work for you] you've got another think coming."

It's just a slightly different way of saying "if you think I'm [doing your work for you] you need to have another think/think again". No need to bring random, undefined "things" in to confuse a sentence which makes sense without them.

Emptyandsad · 26/07/2025 14:20

Tryingtokeepgoing · 26/07/2025 12:41

Shouldn’t it be ‘which I think we’re probably not allowed to talk about’ rather than ‘which I think we’re not allowed to talk about, probably,’? Or to be even more pedantic, ‘that I think we’re probably not allowed to talk about’?

But then that also begs the question whether there ought to be a space between closing quotation marks and a question mark, and whether single or double quotation marks are appropriate for a UK hosted but international (of sorts…) forum 😂

About which I think we are probably not allowed to talk...

quirkychick · 26/07/2025 14:22

https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/pardon-the-expression/another-think-coming-vs-another-thing-coming/

This has a good explanation. The full UK version is "if you think... you have another think coming" but American English doesn't really use think like that eg "have a think about it" so the US version became "thing". The UK version has a nice repetition to it.

HoneyHoneyHowYouThrillMe · 26/07/2025 14:22

I'm already at Crying in the Corner stage.

CaptainMyCaptain · 26/07/2025 14:22

soupyspoon · 26/07/2025 12:22

Both are not correct. It hasnt 'evolved' into anything, its just plain wrong and illogical

People have misheard because of the way 'think' flows into 'coming' and then they mis say it.

Absolutely this.

CaptainMyCaptain · 26/07/2025 14:27

ConnieHeart · 26/07/2025 13:22

And "the proof is in the pudding"

It's not the 'proof is in the pudding' though. The whole phrase is 'The proof of the pudding is in the eating' meaning you won't know what it's like until you eat it. Used as a metaphor, it means you don't know the outcome of any particular enterprise until it's finished and you try it (more or less).

Christwosheds · 26/07/2025 14:28

Sundaybananas · 26/07/2025 14:14

“Break a leg” is a theatre saying - it is bad luck to wish good luck, so you say the opposite.

And “kick the bucket” is a reference to hanging.

CaptainMyCaptain · 26/07/2025 14:32

veryvanessa · 26/07/2025 12:45

If it was another think coming, shouldn’t it be thought, not think.

No because it's a play on words.

Christwosheds · 26/07/2025 14:35

latetothefisting · 26/07/2025 14:10

How about "break a leg" - while commonly understood to mean good luck it doesn't actually make sense because breaking a leg would never be considered a good thing!

Or "cost an arm and a leg" - I've never heard of anyone actually exchanging body parts for money so it doesn't actually make any sense as an expression to convey "expensive"

Happy as a clam
The bees knees
Kick the bucket
It's always darkest before the dawn
Teach your grandmother to suck eggs

Everyone knows what they "mean" but there's not much or any logic behind a lot of them....

Darkest before dawn is pretty self explanatory. The darkest part of night is the small hours before dawn.
Teaching your grandmother to suck eggs - raw eggs were commonly eaten, particularly by older people as they are soft, so something Grandmothers would be adept at doing.

Buxusmortus · 26/07/2025 14:39

Trovindia · 26/07/2025 14:15

But there's no original thing in the phrase, so the use of "another thing" doesn't make sense. It isn't makes sense with the repetition of "think". Where's the first "thing" in your version?

I take the "another" to have the sense of "something else entirely", rather than to mean" additional", so there's no need for it to refer to an original thing.

So the meaning would be "if you think x, then because you're completely deluded, you're going to get a hell of a shock (another thing coming) when the truth hits you in the face.

With that meaning it wouldn't make sense to have think instead of thing because the whole point is you haven't thought very well in the first place, so you wouldn't be having a second think, you're just going to be bombarded by whatever is actually going to happen.

To me it's not quite the same meaning as" if you think that, you need to think again" because that doesn't have the shock element of the "thing coming".

AuntMarch · 26/07/2025 14:45

I didn't know it was think for a long time. I always thought it was thing as in "an entirely different thing will actually happen"

Oftenaddled · 26/07/2025 14:49

Trovindia · 26/07/2025 14:15

But there's no original thing in the phrase, so the use of "another thing" doesn't make sense. It isn't makes sense with the repetition of "think". Where's the first "thing" in your version?

Thing can cover anything, including a think.

It's like saying, something's going to change, something's coming etc. Another thing happened. Another thought came to me. Another thing occurred to me. I've had this thing on my mind. I had another think. I thought of a different thing.

The sentence makes as much sense one way as another.

Oftenaddled · 26/07/2025 14:50

AuntMarch · 26/07/2025 14:45

I didn't know it was think for a long time. I always thought it was thing as in "an entirely different thing will actually happen"

Could easily be understood that way and would make perfect sense.

JaneEyre40 · 26/07/2025 14:52

veryvanessa · 26/07/2025 12:45

If it was another think coming, shouldn’t it be thought, not think.

Mmmm because think is a verb

AlabamaOfEurope · 26/07/2025 14:55

"Thought" doesn't quite work because the idea is that when you discover your error, you will in future be reflecting on your original belief - it suggests a process, rather than a single thought that is coming. So it's "If you think that, you'll be doing some more thinking again soon." A think.

CaptainMyCaptain · 26/07/2025 14:55

JaneEyre40 · 26/07/2025 14:52

Mmmm because think is a verb

'Have a think' .
It can be used as a noun
'Have a thought' is completely different.

HoneyHoneyHowYouThrillMe · 26/07/2025 14:56

Think is also a noun.

AramintaBottersnike · 26/07/2025 14:58

https://grammarphobia.com/blog/2017/04/thing-think.html

This article says that both phrases first appeared in the late 19th century and according to the editors of the Oxford English Dictionary "another thing coming" was a misapprehension of "another think coming".

I'm in agreement with the editors and won't be convinced otherwise Grin

The Grammarphobia Blog: Another thing (or think?) coming

"Another thing coming" versus "another think coming."

https://grammarphobia.com/blog/2017/04/thing-think.html

BlotAnExpert · 26/07/2025 15:00

Another similar (but worse, imho) example is Americans saying 'I could care less' instead of 'I couldn't care less'. It makes no sense. They are idiots.

CaptainMyCaptain · 26/07/2025 15:01

BlotAnExpert · 26/07/2025 15:00

Another similar (but worse, imho) example is Americans saying 'I could care less' instead of 'I couldn't care less'. It makes no sense. They are idiots.

Yes. It sounds so stupid.

ConnieHeart · 26/07/2025 15:04

Oftenaddled · 26/07/2025 14:49

Thing can cover anything, including a think.

It's like saying, something's going to change, something's coming etc. Another thing happened. Another thought came to me. Another thing occurred to me. I've had this thing on my mind. I had another think. I thought of a different thing.

The sentence makes as much sense one way as another.

This reminds me of the Friends episode where Joey said he wanted time on his own with his thoughts but it turns out he "didn't have as many thoughts as you would think" 🤣

Trovindia · 26/07/2025 15:07

Oftenaddled · 26/07/2025 14:49

Thing can cover anything, including a think.

It's like saying, something's going to change, something's coming etc. Another thing happened. Another thought came to me. Another thing occurred to me. I've had this thing on my mind. I had another think. I thought of a different thing.

The sentence makes as much sense one way as another.

The issue is with the use of the word another, which doesn't work if you then say thing, because there was no original "thing". The word another references the word think, therefore the second word has to be think.