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You've got another think coming...

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soupyspoon · 26/07/2025 11:46

I mean god preserve us (someone will pick me up that I didn't capitalise god ...)

Another thread, which I think we're not allowed to talk about probably, massive argument about...

You've got another think coming.

People think that it's 'you've got another thing coming'

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ConnieHeart · 26/07/2025 13:22

latetothefisting · 26/07/2025 13:14

to be fair, although I'm a 'another think'er, I agree not every saying makes sense.

My gran's favourite, 'You're not as green as you're cabbage looking,' for example.
Or 'it's raining cats and dogs.'

And "the proof is in the pudding"

Cattery · 26/07/2025 13:24

ConnieHeart · 26/07/2025 13:22

And "the proof is in the pudding"

It’s “the proof of the pudding is in the eating”

slightlydistrac · 26/07/2025 13:29

latetothefisting · 26/07/2025 13:11

interesting, I've always heard it as 'thing' in that song (and screamed because it's WRONG!)

There was a thing/think thread on here a few years ago that I think filled the whole thread - but even after 1000 posts literally none of the 'thing'-ers could explain it in a way that made any sense. Because it doesn't.

If there hasn't been a first 'thing' mentioned there can't be another.

Well I've just had to watch the Michael Buble video (in the interests of public duty you understand) any excuse 😂 and it sounds like 'think' to me.

Anyhow, if he has got it wrong, I shall be magnanimous and forgive him. 😎

soupyspoon · 26/07/2025 13:30

Cattery · 26/07/2025 13:14

Cheap at half the price. Well, yeh 🤷‍♀️

Yes that came into my head as soon as I wrote that, but isnt that more tongue in cheek, to exaggerate just how expensive the thing is? Is that irony or some other humour method (as I say, I am not a pedant so not sure what the word is to describe that humour format)

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ConnieHeart · 26/07/2025 13:30

Cattery · 26/07/2025 13:24

It’s “the proof of the pudding is in the eating”

That might be the full quote but I've only heard it said as the shortened version

soupyspoon · 26/07/2025 13:32

latetothefisting · 26/07/2025 13:14

to be fair, although I'm a 'another think'er, I agree not every saying makes sense.

My gran's favourite, 'You're not as green as you're cabbage looking,' for example.
Or 'it's raining cats and dogs.'

Not as green as you're cabbage looking means you look thick but you're not. Perfect sense

Raining cats and dogs. Ok, but Im sure someone will be along to explain where its from

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Oftenaddled · 26/07/2025 13:32

It makes as much sense one way as the other.

You've got another think coming - you'll end up having to think about that again. Unusual use of think in that form, but jocular and not incorrect.

You've got another thing coming - you'll end up with something else happening (maybe having to think again, maybe having your expectations confounded). Less unusual to see thing as a noun than think, conveys pretty much the same meaning either way.

If you know think is the original, you might decide one is logical and the other isn't, but that's not the case. Both logical, sound almost identical. As language evolved, it was pretty much inevitable you'd end up with both variants.

I wouldn't consider either incorrect.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 26/07/2025 13:34

I mean, it’s so obvious that ‘thing’ is bollocks that I just tend to tune it out. I do judge people who use it though.

slightlydistrac · 26/07/2025 13:34

ConnieHeart · 26/07/2025 13:30

That might be the full quote but I've only heard it said as the shortened version

Yes, but the whole point of the phrase is that you can only 'prove' how good the pudding is by actually eating some of it.

MissedItByThisMuch · 26/07/2025 13:35

Is think vs thing a predominantly British vs predominantly American usage? (I’m Australian so have no skin in this game 😂)

LaurieFairyCake · 26/07/2025 13:35

It’s both.

The original is ‘thing’ and the only one I use as I’ve thought people who used think we’re just hard of hearing.

HoneyHoneyHowYouThrillMe · 26/07/2025 13:40

Oh God, it's starting.

This is going to ruin my peaceful day. 😞😞

HoneyHoneyHowYouThrillMe · 26/07/2025 13:48

LaurieFairyCake · 26/07/2025 13:35

It’s both.

The original is ‘thing’ and the only one I use as I’ve thought people who used think we’re just hard of hearing.

Have you got a reference for this? Because as far as I know the original, and correct, version was 'think'.

Raahh · 26/07/2025 13:53

HoneyHoneyHowYouThrillMe · 26/07/2025 13:48

Have you got a reference for this? Because as far as I know the original, and correct, version was 'think'.

It is.

'If that's what you think, you've got another think coming'

If that's your understanding of the situation, then you need to think again.

How could 'thing' be correct?

HoneyHoneyHowYouThrillMe · 26/07/2025 13:57

Quite.

However I'm more interested in actual references to support 'thing' being the earlier version, because, as I said, my reference says it originated in the UK.

Oh I know this isn't a hill I should be willing to die on. But it is.

Coconutter24 · 26/07/2025 14:03

veryvanessa · 26/07/2025 12:45

If it was another think coming, shouldn’t it be thought, not think.

No because thought would be past tense, you’ve already thought it. Another think coming because you have to rethink

Pinty · 26/07/2025 14:05

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 26/07/2025 12:14

I've always heard it as another thing coming. I've googled and Mariam Webster says think is the original saying which has evolved into thing, but both are correct.

How can thing be correct though? It doesn't make sense
It's think, always has been and it will always be the correct saying if it is used in the right context.eg "if you think you are doing that you have another think coming.
Otherwise its just a sentence eg 'oh did you think that was your full order?? No you have another thing coming. BUT that has nothing to do with the saying.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 26/07/2025 14:09

ConnieHeart · 26/07/2025 13:10

I've always said 'thing' and I've seen it written that way many times. It might not make sense but not every saying makes sense

Doesn't mean it's right. What about:

'I've always said ^I could of sworn it was in my bag' and I've seen it written that way many times.'

You could have seen it a billion times and it would still be wrong - for now. In another century, if the human species still exists and dictionaries still exist, we might well see 'thing'/'of' described as the correct forms and 'think'/'have' as archaic. Fortunately I will be long gone by that time.

latetothefisting · 26/07/2025 14:10

How about "break a leg" - while commonly understood to mean good luck it doesn't actually make sense because breaking a leg would never be considered a good thing!

Or "cost an arm and a leg" - I've never heard of anyone actually exchanging body parts for money so it doesn't actually make any sense as an expression to convey "expensive"

Happy as a clam
The bees knees
Kick the bucket
It's always darkest before the dawn
Teach your grandmother to suck eggs

Everyone knows what they "mean" but there's not much or any logic behind a lot of them....

Pinty · 26/07/2025 14:11

soupyspoon · 26/07/2025 13:30

Yes that came into my head as soon as I wrote that, but isnt that more tongue in cheek, to exaggerate just how expensive the thing is? Is that irony or some other humour method (as I say, I am not a pedant so not sure what the word is to describe that humour format)

Yes I think this comes from market sellers shouting that something would be cheap even at double the price and responses that no, it would be cheap at half the priceie it's expensive.

SprayWhiteDung · 26/07/2025 14:12

slightlydistrac · 26/07/2025 13:00

Now this is odd. Very odd. The Michael Buble song 'It's a Beautiful Day' uses the phrase, and when I've listened to the song, it sounds right and I have always been pleased about it. However, I have just checked the lyrics online on a couple of websites, and they both have the word down as 'thing' instead of 'think'.

Bear in mind that the main lyrics websites - Genius, AZ and the like - use submissions from fans, whi presumably originally go on what they hear.

They are usually pretty accurate, but they aren't the definitive, authorised version - Michael Buble himself doesn't drop them all an email every time he releases a new song!

Sundaybananas · 26/07/2025 14:14

latetothefisting · 26/07/2025 14:10

How about "break a leg" - while commonly understood to mean good luck it doesn't actually make sense because breaking a leg would never be considered a good thing!

Or "cost an arm and a leg" - I've never heard of anyone actually exchanging body parts for money so it doesn't actually make any sense as an expression to convey "expensive"

Happy as a clam
The bees knees
Kick the bucket
It's always darkest before the dawn
Teach your grandmother to suck eggs

Everyone knows what they "mean" but there's not much or any logic behind a lot of them....

“Break a leg” is a theatre saying - it is bad luck to wish good luck, so you say the opposite.

Trovindia · 26/07/2025 14:15

Oftenaddled · 26/07/2025 13:32

It makes as much sense one way as the other.

You've got another think coming - you'll end up having to think about that again. Unusual use of think in that form, but jocular and not incorrect.

You've got another thing coming - you'll end up with something else happening (maybe having to think again, maybe having your expectations confounded). Less unusual to see thing as a noun than think, conveys pretty much the same meaning either way.

If you know think is the original, you might decide one is logical and the other isn't, but that's not the case. Both logical, sound almost identical. As language evolved, it was pretty much inevitable you'd end up with both variants.

I wouldn't consider either incorrect.

But there's no original thing in the phrase, so the use of "another thing" doesn't make sense. It isn't makes sense with the repetition of "think". Where's the first "thing" in your version?

latetothefisting · 26/07/2025 14:15

SprayWhiteDung · 26/07/2025 14:12

Bear in mind that the main lyrics websites - Genius, AZ and the like - use submissions from fans, whi presumably originally go on what they hear.

They are usually pretty accurate, but they aren't the definitive, authorised version - Michael Buble himself doesn't drop them all an email every time he releases a new song!

Yes, usually, but in this particular case he released an "official lyrics video" in which he's bopping about pointing at the individual lyrics as they appear on screen while he's singing them so I'd argue he was pretty set on "thing".

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mathanxiety · 26/07/2025 14:16

soupyspoon · 26/07/2025 12:47

I dont think so because of the way we use think. To say 'I need a think about that'. Means I have another think coming or you have another think coming is right. I think

"I need a think about that"?
Surely it should be, "I need to think about that"?
'A think' is an example of the word 'to' falling victim to the speed of spoken language.

Also, apropos of nothing, grammar and grandma do not rhyme, and that is a fact