You've got another think coming...

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I mean god preserve us (someone will pick me up that I didn't capitalise god ...)

Another thread, which I think we're not allowed to talk about probably, massive argument about...

You've got another think coming.

People think that it's 'you've got another thing coming'

Oh dear, I had to step away from the other thread even though it was me that derailed it in the first place. Just couldn’t cope with the number of people still trying to convince us that thing was correct.

There’s no hope for them, this thread will explode under the weight of the bollocks being spouted. Save yourselves.

Precisely.

If you think it's 'thing' then yes, you are an idiot and yes, saying that is rude and I don't care. I've already judged you far more harshly for thinking it's 'thing' than you might judge me for being rude.

Not just you, to be fair. Everyone else who not only thinks but, worse, insists that 'thing' makes sense in this context is quite obviously stupid.

I would of thought you could of seen how far this might of gone in the future if we allow variants. Not all variants are grammatical.

Fucking hell. My eyes are bleeding. Is this my future? Kill me now.

I should of reported this!!

I think 'the darkest hour is just before dawn' is something to do with people dying then because the blood sugar level is low, so it's dark in the sense of losing people then.
If I am an idiot for thinking this way, even if I am declared idiotissima, I shall still like this derivation.
i don't know what it has to do with thinks and things but it seems to have cropped up earlier.

Not all variants are grammatical, but this one is.

This is indeed our future. I don’t know if anyone has plotted the prevalence, but I see it more and more. It will take over if enough accept it. I do see posters challenging it on Mumsnet and other social media, but not often enough.

I've always assumed it was figurative, with a similar interpretation. Before first light, it's been dark for longest. Humans are set to sleep mode (low blood sugar) but they're getting that anxiety provoking adrenaline kick that will launch them into the day - all very well if they're not already lying awake in the long dark hours worrying. They'll feel a bit better when there's a bit of light and human activity around them, but meanwhile there's that darkest hour to get through ...

A very evocative saying.

Maybe, but I expect the advent of AI, like the introduction of the printing press, will slow this kind of language change. If we reach a point where people routinely rely on AI to shape the written word, and that point comes before "of" is formally acceptable in this usage, it will probably filter it out.

I mean, thing is a word, yes, so it’s “grammatical” in that sense. But it doesn’t work with the idiom here - it misses the whole joke so makes no sense at all.

It doesn't work with the joke, but it does make sense. I suppose not every idiom has to contain a bit of wordplay, but I can see why people who are used to the wordplay prefer their version.

I agree with this interpretation. It's also metaphorical - it gets worse before it gets better.

but it does make sense.

No it doesn’t.

Or a bit hard of thinging 😁

Then another thing happened

I've got another thing coming up next week

You've got another thing coming

How does it not make sense?

Thing makes sense to me for the reasons some PP have put forward on the thread, and I don’t care if it’s officially wrong.

When I hear ‘you’ve got another think coming’, it sounds annoying. Do I have another think coming? How do you know? I might not think about this particular subject ever again. Don’t tell me what to think 😆.

Because it’s not already preceded by ‘think’ in a play on words based upon the word… ‘think’!

I absolutely accept that one of these idioms is a play on words and one isn't, and I see why people might prefer the play on words. No issue there at all.

I'm just saying that, all that said, both expressions make sense so it's fine to use either.

That's the thing. That's what I think

@Oftenaddled it doesn’t make sense because it doesn’t connect in any way with the “if you think that” part of the sentence that comes before it. The second part is just random words.

It’s like saying “if you think that, you’ve got another chihuahua coming.”

Which I might start saying now actually.

If he thought he could get that garden round in just one season, he's got another thing coming.

If he thought he could get that garden round in just one season, he's got another think coming.

No - if your expectations are going to be confounded, you have another (unexpected) thing coming. Not a specific thing like a chihuahua. An as yet unknown (unthought / unexpected by you) thing.

@PuppyMonkey But that’s how I see it.

If you thought England were going to win in full time, you have another ‘surprise’ coming. The second part does link.

So all the idiots that think it is "thing" please tell me how it makes sense when used in the following phrase.

If you think you are going out in that short skirt you have another thing coming.

Makes no sense whatsoever and no amount of arguing will ever make it make sense