Please stop writing "gotten"

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That's it really.

I agree wholeheartedly! 👏

It's correct in American English and this site is international.

I also agree wholeheartedly. Grinds my gears

What? Even if it’s in your vernacular eg in Scotland?

I know this isn’t AIBU but YABU.

Hear hear 👏🏼

I agree completely. I hate it.

It is correct in English English too. It originated here in the 1100s.

Only fell out of favour in the 18th century or thereabouts. Which means it was correct for much longer than it hasn't been.

Absolutely. It pisses me off so much. I stop reading!

Nearly as annoying as 'myself' incorrectly replacing 'I' and 'me'.

My Dad was Scottish - West coast, working class - and I never heard him or any of my numerous Scottish relatives use ‘gotten’!

Mixed feelings on this.

I know it's grammatically correct and an archaic form that was used in the UK etc etc but now it is in use as an Americanism and I really don't like to see the Americanisation of the English language in the UK. I like local dialects and written British English, not this globalised direction in which we are heading

I mean nothing but fondness for America (most of it, not you, Messrs Trump and Vance if you are reading).

That said, ill gotten gains, begotten , forgotten. It is a useful form, the past participle and it hasn't disappeared from British English entirely. Perhaps it was on hiatus and the Americans were preserving it for us?

In isolation I think, hmm, fair enough for this example. It's the wider pattern that bothers me. Zs instead of Ss, traffic circles instead of roundabouts. I don't want to see an entire dialect or lexicon just subsumed because of a couple of generations' media exposure😪

I agree. It's just awful.

Correct in Hiberno English too.

People love to make idiots of themselves on this one.

Indeed. The fact that it has fallen out of favour doesn't make its use wrong. Unlike the PP who points out the misuse of "myself" which is definitely wrong.

Oh well, in that case it can’t be in use in Scotland at all if you (presumably English, living in England) haven’t heard it!

Yep. I await someone saying they hate seeing mom instead of mum, even though several million west midlanders use mom. It must’ve come up almost as often as the Great Gotten Misconception on MN.

And as for haitch, that one gets properly nasty. I was on the receiving end of some full on sectarianism last time, that was new.

I mean you should know by now that there is only one way to say or pronounce anything @BarbaraHoward and that’s the southern English way. Anything else is Just Wrong 😑

I was corrected for my regional pronunciation of a word only this week. I literally did the head tilt thing and gave them a Paddington hard stare before correcting them back. I’m so over this sort of shit now.

'With much ado at length have gotten leave, to look upon my sometimes royal master's face.'

Richard II Act 5, Scene 5

Not pronouncing the T in university: wrong, common as muck, will never amount to anything.

Not pronouncing the R in park: correct, posh, it's your turn to be PM next week.

I lived in the US until I was ten. I use "gotten" sometimes from an old habit. I think it's nice it's been preserved.

I'm east coast Scottish and I've never heard anyone I know say it either.

I’m Scottish and I regularly here(and use) gotten. I never hear anyone say “bairn” or “ken” in my area but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t used in other parts.