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Please stop writing "gotten"

156 replies

Oldjustold · 22/01/2025 15:33

That's it really.

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Ninkinpopodopolis · 22/01/2025 16:24

BitOutOfPractice · 22/01/2025 15:58

Yep. I await someone saying they hate seeing mom instead of mum, even though several million west midlanders use mom. It must’ve come up almost as often as the Great Gotten Misconception on MN.

Edited

I don't mean to be 'that person' but it really should be 'mam'(which always seems to be forgotten). Everyone knows the northern dialect is the most superior. I hope I've gotten my point across.😉🤣

usernother · 22/01/2025 16:28

sanityisamyth · 22/01/2025 15:39

Absolutely. It pisses me off so much. I stop reading!

Me too.

Oldjustold · 22/01/2025 16:33

AllFurCoatAndFrillyKnickers · 22/01/2025 15:41

Nearly as annoying as 'myself' incorrectly replacing 'I' and 'me'.

Oh Lordy, don't even start me ranting about that. As for "sat" instead of sitting. Terry Wogan must be spinning in his grave.

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owlll · 22/01/2025 16:43

HappiestSleeping · 22/01/2025 15:38

It is correct in English English too. It originated here in the 1100s.

Sure, but people are using it these days because they've consumed a lot of American media, not because of their love of Anglo-Saxon English

BarbaraHoward · 22/01/2025 16:47

owlll · 22/01/2025 16:43

Sure, but people are using it these days because they've consumed a lot of American media, not because of their love of Anglo-Saxon English

Or because they're American, Irish, Scottish or (I'm guessing) Canadian or Australian or from New Zealand. People on here are from all over.

MajorCarolDanvers · 22/01/2025 16:49

I’m Scottish so nae chance pal.

BitOutOfPractice · 22/01/2025 16:50

Ninkinpopodopolis · 22/01/2025 16:24

I don't mean to be 'that person' but it really should be 'mam'(which always seems to be forgotten). Everyone knows the northern dialect is the most superior. I hope I've gotten my point across.😉🤣

My mom can beat your mam! 🤣

Overtheatlantic · 22/01/2025 16:52

I was sat….
He should of…

Seriously have a word with yourself. The English like to think they have quirky regional dialects and it’s the Americans who are poorly educated. That’s just not true.

emmetgirl · 22/01/2025 16:54

Agreed! Pisses me off.

owlll · 22/01/2025 16:57

Or because they're American, Irish, Scottish or (I'm guessing) Canadian or Australian or from New Zealand. People on here are from all over.

Yeah could be.

But I hear English people use it all the time.

Illegally18 · 22/01/2025 16:59

BitOutOfPractice · 22/01/2025 15:57

Oh well, in that case it can’t be in use in Scotland at all if you (presumably English, living in England) haven’t heard it!

She did say her dad and her relatives were Scottish....that makes her Scottish.

Seymour5 · 22/01/2025 17:01

IHateWasps · 22/01/2025 16:21

I’m Scottish and I regularly here(and use) gotten. I never hear anyone say “bairn” or “ken” in my area but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t used in other parts.

I’m Scottish, from the East Coast, I’ve never heard ‘gotten’ as standard there. Presumably it’s area specific? On the other hand ‘ken’ is in common usage in local speech, but don’t tend to see it written.

MudpiesinEssex · 22/01/2025 17:02

The Scottish and Irish people who don't say gotten have bourgeois aspirations.

FluffytheGoldfish · 22/01/2025 17:06

Perfectly normal and in common usage in Glasgow. I used it al least once today. “Have you gotten up to date with last week’s notes?” Said to one of my S6 pupils.

And why should gotten not be used when we use forgotten all the time?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 22/01/2025 17:08

How would one cackle over one's ill gotten gains without it?

loobylou10 · 22/01/2025 17:13

Definitely. Hate it.

IHateWasps · 22/01/2025 17:29

That should say hear not here but yes my point is that it’s area specific. I’m Glaswegian and regularly hear it. I almost never hear and never use “ken” or “bairn” but that doesn’t mean that others shouldn’t use them.

Inextremis · 22/01/2025 17:35

I really like 'gotten'. I also like 'ye' as a plural of 'you' (which is in common use in the west of Ireland, where I live), and wish we could bring back 'thee' and 'thou' etc. I lived in the north and south of the UK when I was growing up (Kent, Northumberland, East Sussex) and have a mostly RP accent and standard vocabulary - but I do like a little quirkiness in language. Since moving to Ireland, I have no problem with 'haitch' either :)

BitOutOfPractice · 22/01/2025 18:10

Illegally18 · 22/01/2025 16:59

She did say her dad and her relatives were Scottish....that makes her Scottish.

She didn’t say she was Scottish though. Or had ever lived in Scotland. Or that her mother was Scottish. So I presumed she wasn’t Scottish. Fair assumption I think.

My father was born in Ireland. My mom was English. I was born in England. Brought up in England. I’m English, not Irish.

PrincessAnne5Eva · 22/01/2025 18:13

Aren't you glad you've gotten that out of your system, OP? 😁

HappiestSleeping · 22/01/2025 18:21

owlll · 22/01/2025 16:43

Sure, but people are using it these days because they've consumed a lot of American media, not because of their love of Anglo-Saxon English

They are indeed, but it doesn't make it wrong. Much like starting a sentence with "sure". 😉

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 22/01/2025 18:22

Why has it suddenly exploded though? I hate it.

YesYesAllGood · 22/01/2025 18:26

I'm in Northern Ireland and I grew up saying gotten. In my 40s so not a new Americanism.

ErrolTheDragon · 22/01/2025 18:50

Not this narrow minded ignorance yet again?

Please will people kindly desist from starting threads about the word 'gotten', it's been done to death. It's perfectly acceptable, comprehensible English and it's not going away.

I do hope that as manual cars get replaced by EVs and hybrids, the phrase 'grinds my gears' becomes archaic and drops out of use.

Bextehude · 22/01/2025 19:25

What?

  • To get - I got - Gotten
Are you saying we were taught irregular verbs wrong???
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