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Philippa Perry Article "I miss my adult children so much it feels like grief".

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Idlewilderness · 25/08/2024 21:54

I miss my adult children so much it feels like grief | Life and style | The Guardia

My children would be mortified if I showed them this, but I could have written this letter.

Funnily enough, the Uni years didn't bother me at all. They came home every now and then, and were here most of the summers. I have a very busy life and I was fine with that.

But they are now at opposite ends of the country, they have very busy lives and we have seen them each once since Christmas. I have to work very hard not to let it break my heart. I am so jealous of those whose adult children live near to them. I don't expect anything different from them, I'm not looking for answers, it's just very helpful to read this and realise I am not alone in how it makes me feel.

And like the letter writer, I was exactly the same in my own twenties. Though there were much younger children at home who didn't go away to uni so my parents didn't have an empty nest until I was about 30!

I miss my adult children so much it feels like grief | Ask Philippa

It’s painful because of the deep bonds you have with your children. Set up a routine for seeing them and be clear it’s for your sake

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/aug/25/i-miss-my-adult-children-so-much-it-feels-like-grief

OP posts:
HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 25/08/2024 23:24

In my twenties and early thirties I lived at the other end of the country from my parents.

I moved in with them for a few years to care for one parent who had a terrible illness. (If not for that, I think I might still have moved back to their area a few years later) After they died I planned to stick around for a year before moving to a different area.

Then I met my husband and we now live 20 minutes from my surviving parent. My young children and I visit them a couple of times a week.

I don't want to in any way dismiss your feelings - I imagine I will feel heartbroken if my children end up living far away, and I can only hope I'll cope with it without pressuring them, just as you have unselfishly done. I guess I just want to encourage you not to assume it'll always be that way. They might move back. Or perhaps you'll be able to move closer. I hope things improve.

5475878237NC · 25/08/2024 23:54

It's crazy how we have to go from doing everything for them 24/7 to somehow adjusting to a phone call every few weeks and a visit every couple of years if they move abroad and start new lives as adults. Dreading it. Just shows that even with time and the teenage years it still hurts and is experienced as a loss.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 26/08/2024 00:48

I have heard quite recently that when your adult children leave and go their own way in life, it's not unusual for it to feel like a bereavement - and yes it is a loss. I have got two adult daughters in their late 20s. Both left home around 11-12 years ago. (Left for Uni and never lived at home full time again.) They have been living with partners for about 8-9 years. One married - one soon to be married.

When they were at Uni - at the same time, as they're a year apart in age and my oldest had a gap year after college - I was lucky if I got one phone call every 2 weeks. I felt the pain physically from them not being here. The gap in my life was palpable. They did used to come home in the holidays and me and DH popped to see them now and again. (Stayed in a hotel overnight and had a meal with them there in the town where the uni was twice a year maybe.) But I missed them so much that I did feel bereft.

Since they've left Uni, we see the one daughter about once every 3 weeks, and the other every 2 weeks. They very rarely ring and don't answer when we do. They just message saying 'Bit busy, what's up?' They do both chat quite a bit on whatsapp though. I speak to DD1 maybe 4-5 days of the week on whatsapp, and DD2 maybe twice a week.

Fortunately they only live 16 miles away, and 23 miles away. . I really don't know how I would cope if they both decided to move multiple hundreds of miles away, and I only saw them 2 or 3 times a year - or even thousands of miles away abroad, and I only saw them every 1.5 to 2 years or so. Once a year if I'm lucky. I really don't see how you can maintain a relationship with anybody when you're in a different country. Apparently some people make it work but I don't know how.

My friend's sister moved to Greece about 9 years ago, and she said she feels like her sister is a stranger now, especially since they didn't see each other for a couple years over COVID. Her sister has a nephew who is 7 and he doesn't even know her. Since summer 2022 she has seen her sister and nephew twice. For 3 days last April 2023. And a week this March when she visited them. Not seen her since.

My friend who lives down the road from me had her parents moved to central Spain in 2018, and she had a baby in 2021, and they have seen him 4 times... for 5-7 days at a time. In THREE YEARS. They came for Christmas last year, and my friend and her sister (who lives 150 miles away,) and parents all had a big family get together, but they haven't visited since. And she hasn't been there. She works 4 days a week and has the kiddy in nursery. There's another child that won't know their grandparents.

With the 2 above examples, and several others I know (where family moved abroad, or multiple 100s of miles away,) they made some effort to keep in touch/visit for the first few years, but then as they years went on... 4 years, 5 years, 6 years +, the visits and phone calls got less frequent, until (as I said,) you feel like you don't know them any more.

I think mothers of sons are more likely to see less of their child (and grandkids) than mothers of daughters - as they do gravitate towards the wife's family quite often, but it's not an absolute given. Both partners my daughters are with are very involved in their parents lives. In fact, I think my daughters see a little bit more of them than they do us, because both of them and their partners live a couple of miles away from the partner's families.

I don't mind though. I still do get to see them 2-3 times a month. They both live in large towns and we live deep in the sticks, so there's no way they were going to come out here!

I really think it's a terrible idea though, by that lady in the article to contact your adult child, and say 'I want to come and have a meal once a month as I NEEEED you!' As it will end up feeling like a chore - and it is really desperately needy. I think people who feel bereft need to find something to fill the gap. I did.

I filled my life with extra hobbies and interests, because as much as my daughters love me and DH, they do have their own lives, and we are not high on the list of priorities in their life. (At this point.) Their partner is No 1 now. And their career, their friends, their pets, their hobbies. Not us. They love us and would be there for us if we needed them desperately, but day to day they don't think about us much I don't think. I was the same at that age!

I moved out at 20 and lived 120 miles away for a year and didn't even look back. Came back for weekends just 3 times. And a week for Christmas. Didn't think how my parents felt. I just wanted to get away!!! I do wonder if it's worse when your kids leave and have their own life that doesn't have you in it much, if you're single/live alone (like the lady in the article?) I still had/have DH. I may have struggled way more if I had been alone.

But yes, it is utterly heartbreaking and very sad that you bring these children into the world and look after them for two decades, sometimes more. And then you're just expected to switch off - and let them go into the world, and be happy with one phone call a month and one visit a season sometimes! Or even for them to swan off to the other side of the planet.

If my daughters said they were moving to Australia or South Africa or something - I would be absolutely devastated.

I don't know if they will have children at some point. They say they don't think they want them - but they're only in their late 20s so they might change their mind. If they don't that's okay... If they do, I'll be ready to welcome my grandchildren ...

I really do hope that they don't move any further away than they are now. Because even though we only see them 2 or 3 times a month for an hour or two. (And have 4 or 5 meals out plus a couple of daytrips during the year,) they can still be here within 20-25 minutes if we need them in an emergency.

CharlotteRumpling · 26/08/2024 04:44

I am in London and my DC can't afford to move out, so that's another difficult situation altogether. Would love to have them move out but close by. Sympathies to those who never see them.

Most of my families are immigrants and at least one of my DC wants to emigrate so I may have to get used to it. That's life these days.

garlictwist · 26/08/2024 05:29

It might not always be this way. I lived in France during my 20s and my sister in Malaysia but now we are both ten mins from my parents. My husband works with his mum so sees her every day.

stronglatte · 26/08/2024 07:02

I think the magic distance would be an hour away but not anyway near that at the moment .. trying to work a way to make it work !

CeruleanBelt · 26/08/2024 07:32

Someone i know is an only child, her mum is divorced and lives alone. The dd decided to emigrate to Australia with her 3 children and now her mum is entirely alone, watching her gc grow up on facetime. The mum is on a low income and can't afford to go to Australia so she's selling her house so she can afford a plane ticket to go and see them. Dd moved out there 3 years ago and has only been back once.

I feel so sad for her whenever she posts about them on Facebook. She spent years bringing up her daughter alone , sacrificing her career and her hobbies to do so because her ex was useless, and now she's in her 60s she's got nobody at all.

It's just really sad.

CharlotteRumpling · 26/08/2024 07:38

Children are not going to give up emigrating for their parents and it is unfair to ask them to, IMO.
Best to build your own interests and friends. Something I always think of when posters here say they don't want any friends because " too much drama".

Oopsohnoherewego · 26/08/2024 07:44

This makes me feel so guilty and a bit sad reading this. I live abroad and have elderly parents in the UK, flight is only an hour and a half but I do feel bad i'm not there to pop in and help them out, especially as they are separated and live alone. However I visit every 2 months/6 times a year, for at least a week at a time and speak to my mum every other day, probably for an hour each time. We are still very close, she has a great relationship with my son.
Both my parents support my decision to live overseas and can see that I moved away for a better life.

RampantIvy · 26/08/2024 07:47

Helpimfalling · 25/08/2024 22:00

Ugh I literally just felt dread thinking this.

Especially as a mother of boys as boys tend to in experience flock to their wife's side.

It depends on how you are with their partners.

My late MIL made me feel so welcome the first time I met her that we we became very close. After my mum died she became a second mum to me.

Seasmoke · 26/08/2024 07:50

Glitterglitch · 25/08/2024 23:20

Especially as a mother of boys as boys tend to in experience flock to their wife's side.

I don’t think this is true for all. My brother & my male cousins are all very close with their mums and DH is very, very close with his mum. Most of my female friends have fraught relationships with their own mothers.

This is the same for my family too. I hate that saying too. It's not true and designed to put pressure on girls to be the ones who should be around for their parents while boys are let off the hook. Many women I know have had fraught and complicated relationships with their mothers ( including me) We see MIL both more than I see my DM and DH's sister speaks to her ÐM.

Flowers4me · 26/08/2024 08:10

I can relate; my eldest lives about 2 hours away and has a life centred on her partner and his family. We just don't figure in her life at the moment; she cares but she's grown away from us. I find it sad; on the other hand I'm happy that she's developing her own life. I wasn't able to do that as I was stuck in an emotionally abusive relationship with my mum so anytime I tried to move away (even if it was the next town) I was emotionally manipulated. I've worked through that now but I think my reaction to my upbringing is to encourage my children to be free. I still find it a loss though after all those years of caring for her.

Osory · 26/08/2024 08:16

Another one to squash the sons vs daughters myth. My dh is great friends with his mum, they're heading on a 2 day trip to the other side of the country together next month. She's more easy going than my own mum

Osory · 26/08/2024 08:16

I think being super easy going and friendly to the DIL helps from personal experience

00BonneMaman00 · 26/08/2024 08:20

Aw I remember about 2 weeks after we brought my first DS home sitting there looking at him adoringly & suddenly bursting into tears... DH asked me what was wrong and I told him i'd just fully realised that one day he'd leave us! I was devastated.

So I guess it's one of those inevitable things that we'll just have to deal with.

I live a few minutes away from my folks and see them all the time. They are very active grandparents. We don't live too close to the inlaws. There's a reason for that. They are hard work.

My MIL always comments on how jealous she is of the time we spend with my folks. Something to think about.

I console myself by planning all the fabulous things we can do when they do finally leave home. I really sincerely hope they will live near us when they're older. But realise it's not something we can control.

Kids eh!

00BonneMaman00 · 26/08/2024 08:21

Glitterglitch · 25/08/2024 23:20

Especially as a mother of boys as boys tend to in experience flock to their wife's side.

I don’t think this is true for all. My brother & my male cousins are all very close with their mums and DH is very, very close with his mum. Most of my female friends have fraught relationships with their own mothers.

Same here.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 26/08/2024 08:22

I’ve recently had the realisation that my eldest has left home almost by stealth! He and his girlfriend have stayed living in their uni city after graduation, which is not unexpected, but it really didn’t cross my mind last year that this was the last time he’d be coming home for summer holidays, Christmas, Easter … I’d been used to them living with us for weeks on end and we love having the house full of noise and people coming and going.

Now it’s just when they have the odd long weekend or break from work and it feels like the end of an era. We’ll never properly live together again as a family and thinking about it makes my heart hurt. Not sure how I’ll cope when the last one goes, I’m dreading it.

WhatNoRaisins · 26/08/2024 08:22

I'm really questioning our way of having to parent our children very intensively often into the teenage years to the point where other parts of your life suffer. Then by the point in which you may have lost all your friends and most of your personality all of a sudden they can leave you with minimal contact.

Glitterglitch · 26/08/2024 08:23

I think being super easy going and friendly to the DIL helps from personal experience

Yep, we had a recent holiday with MIL.

Im not English, had more than one sibling, parents had loads. Does the whole sons leave thing come from the apparent MNs ideal of having 2 dc of opposite sex with boy doing stuff with dad & girl with mum?

Glitterglitch · 26/08/2024 08:24

I'm really questioning our way of having to parent our children very intensively often into the teenage years to the point where other parts of your life suffer. Then by the point in which you may have lost all your friends and most of your personality all of a sudden they can leave you with minimal contact.

Its important to maintain relationships with your other half & friends so that those relationships are still there.

5475878237NC · 26/08/2024 08:24

There's something to be said for multigenerational living which is the norm in so many cultures. It doesn't have to be the case that they move and we never see them but it's outside our control. I loved growing up living with very active grandparents in the house.

CharlotteRumpling · 26/08/2024 08:26

5475878237NC · 26/08/2024 08:24

There's something to be said for multigenerational living which is the norm in so many cultures. It doesn't have to be the case that they move and we never see them but it's outside our control. I loved growing up living with very active grandparents in the house.

It is the norm in my culture but I hate it myself. Stunts growth.

ssd · 26/08/2024 08:58

Totally agree and understand op

Idlewilderness · 26/08/2024 09:04

Fantastic responses, thanks everyone. Some interesting assumptions and a reminder that everyone's family is unique, but lots of common ground too.

Our two are mid twenties and haven't fully "settled down" so could end up anywhere from our home town to the other side of the world. I can see them having their own kids would be a different phase which could change the dynamic, depending on where they end up living.

I want them to do what is best for them. I didn't plan my life around my parents and I don't want them to.

I have a very full and happy life with a strong marriage, work, friends and hobbies. I'm not sitting here with nothing else to think about.

But I can relate to this poster:

But yes, it is utterly heartbreaking and very sad that you bring these children into the world and look after them for two decades, sometimes more. And then you're just expected to switch off - and let them go into the world, and be happy with one phone call"

I loved being a mum to young kids and then teens. I am so proud of the independent young adults they have grown into. I would never say any of this to them - or perhaps to anyone in real life. But it has been good to come here and admit that it was so hard to just switch off and find that mum.part of me suddenly redundant.

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Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 26/08/2024 09:11

But you aren't redundant. I think this is descending in to some kind of martyrdom. You're projecting what you think you're kids feel. Life is busy for everyone. The fact your kids may not be in touch so often could be seen as a very good thing because they are living their life, exploring the world, developing careers. They would of course, call you as soon as they need you! A mum is for life, not just the first two decades :)

For me, I do keep in touch with my mum a lot more than what my brother does but also, my mum just says to me if she hasn't heard from him, "no news is good news" which is generally true in his case 😂.

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