Autumn Tantrums and Snot till March. Parents of two or more pre schoolers join in..

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New thread. Last one too long!

Afternoon, all

Wolliew - who are you? Wrong thread? You're welcome to pop by and say hello...

We all have colds and DS is being extra difficult, as my usual tricks to get him to do things have stopped working. He can at least be lovely for long stretches too though.

OTOH DD has started fibbing - she is telling outrageous porkies, either about having done something she's supposed to have or not done something she isn't. Has anyone else had this problem? What do you do about it?

I have started putting her on timeout for it, but that didn't really seem to be working so I've said if she keeps on telling fibs, I'll ban chocolate entirely... (I wouldn't mind, but she hits DS and fibs about it, or tries to get him into trouble.)

I don't want to spoil her imagination though - have to teach that she can 'lie' sometimes and not others

Hope you're all OK. M&L - sorry to hear about your DH not having work. I keep expecting the same to happen around here.

hello everyone.

Am having a glass of wine under the fairy lights

dd2 up at 5am today.. not back asleep again till midday! what is the girl made of???

Also when would you start worrying about walking? She's 15mo, cruising,crawling and climbing onto everything but no standing or walking..

V odd.

Saw David Gray in concert last night it was awesome and Annie Lennox came on as suprise guest. Lovely (rare) night out with DH, it's lurve again for Mr & Mrs GYA after last week's fighting

GYA - You're making me feel all christmassy

GYA - I wouldn't worry about walking yet (I think 18m is when you might talk to someone), especially if she's cruising. Both mine were 15m when they got going (DS managed at 13m but then never repeated the trick for two months).

morning chaotica.

up again at 5am today

dd1 still in bed now- she is her mother's daughter!

I'm not really worried about the walking thing, just seems a bit odd that she doesn't even stand by herself..

Off to a toddler fest of a xmas party this morning. Unsure if I have the energy!

GYA - do you have a push-along walker for your DD2? I found that helped (although I went slightly mad turning it around everytime it got pushed to a wall).

Hope you had fun at the xmas party. We have a few next week. I just had the dentist today (and had to be a pillar of light-hearted strength so I didn't put the kids off for life).

Off to find a recipe for DD to help me with Might try bread rolls, for a change.

Those of you who have sorted presents out, I am . I don't know when I'll get organised.

GYA - I have DD who sleeps like a teenager and DS who gets up like a toddler (although not as early as your DD2). Why couldn't I just have two sleepers?

hi all,

would it be ok if i joined this thread? i've got a DS who's coming up to 2yrs and 3months, and a DD who's coming up to 5 mths; there's exactly 22 months between them. DS is hitting; DD has just started that nasty sleep regression phase that strikes between 19-25weeks. she won't settle with DH.

you all seem so normal, it gives me hope that these shattered nerves of mine aren't a genetic weakness and perhaps i'm just a normal human who will one day be 'me' once more... maybe.

had a pretty sh!t day today so far. see toddler hitting thread have even called DH home from work... (he's self employed thankfully, and it's s friday so can just about get away with it)

5am is an evil time, I always find if I get woken up I cant get back to sleep however much I want to.

My DS1 is 8 and in the week you have to drag him out of bed, but come a weekend he is up and ready to start the day at 6am

GYA - My dd is also 14 months, and still isnt pulling herself up. She will cruise if I stand he against something, but she isnt even crawling yet, no can she herself up if she is lying on her back. Both Ds's were like this but I thought girls were supposed to be quicker. She is bumshuffling like a dream though

sukkwan Sorry to hear about the hitting, and welcome to the thread. I assure you. I have days where I am counting down the hours until bedtime

Afternoon, All

Rolls are rising... [fear and trembling emoticon] - will the yeast work? Will we ever get back into the kitchen? Will I persuade a slightly pissed DP to look excited on biting into a lump of rock?

Welcome Sukkwan - I have a DS (2 2m) who slugs like a boxer (usually me, in the face, but occasionally others), which is not a surprise because he is (a) a toddler and (b) his grandad was a very good boxer (although I'd really not want DS to follow in his footsteps). I think you just have to intervene and be seen to intervene (there's nothing worse that having a child running rampage at playgroup (say) and the parents doing nothing). As his language has improved, DS will say that he's angry/sad and sometimes even what about. He often just wants to be acknowledged, even if he can't get what he wants. Keep calm (as much as you can) and he will grow out of it (or become a boxer, although my dad wasn't a hitter when he started training).

BTW - Sukkwan - we are really not that normal... Beneath that normal exterior, we all have supernatural powers

Hi sukkwan- hope things improve for you soon.

Glad I'm not the only one with a lazy non walker Mario.

She didn't even sit up until she was nearly 9mo so the progress she's made is good I suppose.

She does have a walker (the Vteh one) and will walk with that but dolly pushchairs are too light for her.

Am awaiting the news about the bread rolls haotica... [suspense emotcion]

Rolls were great I heartily recommend the cbeebies olive bread (made, in our case, with no olives and wholemeal bread flour as that's all we had).

DD is slightly amazed that we managed to produce bread so easily and has declared that we will do it every day Maybe I could train her... (evil )

Chaotica: v. impressed with breadmaking w/ DD - is it a girl thing? arethey more able to pay attention to tasks like cooking?? i can only just captivate my DS's attention for long enough to paint a piece of A4 (and then he'll enthusiastically go on to try to decorate the whole room...)

GYA: my friend's DS didnt crawl or stand until quite late. she even had the HV come out to check his 'weight bearing'. it was highly infuriating for her since she knew he was fine, just taking his time. several times she nearly stuck two fingers up at the HV..! they all tend to find their feet in their own time in the end he skipped it all and just walked shortly after 18mo!

think i've demonised my DS somewhat. struggling to look at him without a sinking feeling. think i need a break this weekend and let DH do it all. he's totally fine with our DS being socially ostracised so long as DS is still fine with us within the family. i see his point, but dont feel i'm made of the same stuff as him! we speak two languages with DS so his speech development is slightly delayed. ability to talk would def' help, but unsure when that day will be...

DD currently screaming for england.

can't remember why having 2 DCs seemed like such a good idea.....

Sukkwan - having two gets to be a good idea. I realised today while DD was at nursery and DS was requiring my full attention that it's so much easier when they're both around. But it wasn't until DS (the youngest) got to about a year old. It gets better all the time.

I think the cooking is an age thing rather than a girl thing - I started with DD when she was about 18m but she'd not do much more than stir a bit or tip raisins into a cake or something (eg eat them). Now she's pretty good, but she is 3.6. (Doesn't stick around for painting though - whereas DS will.) I made jelly with DS today which he loved (about as complicated as he can get).

BTW Sukkwan - it's great your DS will bilingual, even if it might mean a slightly slower start. Every toddler can be a pain sometimes - I'm sure he'll grow out of the hitting (DD is the opposite - she's dangerously shy and so even seems rude as she gets older and taller.)

Hi Sukkwan -Nothing normal about me either I have five kids 19, 17, 11 and two relevent to this thread Melissa who will be 3 in feb and Isaac who will be 2 in feb.

Mine have started playing together more so it is getting easier altho Melissa gets so cross with Isaac because he doesnt understand her when she is trying to control him during pretend play. She is very bossy tho and I find it hard to keep up with her demands!

GYA & Mario - Also Melissa didnt walk until 21 months so I was really worried but she got there in the end. Hv suggested they are either early talkers or walkers and cant manage both and boy is she a chatterbox!

Chaotica - we made the bread rolls too and yes they were edible but melissa picked out all the olives. I thought she might eat them - I fibbed tho and sid they were really plump raisins

Melissa is a hitter too but only to me and her younger brother but it is so frustrating as she only does it to me for attention usually when I am mumsnetting working hard on the computer. Or always to him the minute I leave the room

We have been round the shops this morning - well the the pound shop to get craft things as Melissa is wanting to make things, so ended up buying the usual doll whose leg is off by the time we get to the car and the wheels have fallen off the bus that I guiltily bought for Isaac because she always asks for something and he never gets anything

Needs to be my new years resolution - either only buy what I really need in the shops or maybe just dont go full stop.

Anyway enough rambling from me. Im annoyed because I wanted to go to this christmas chill out morning at the local church to make christmas wreaths and drink wine and have mince pies - sounded lovely but oh had to play golf this morning so I couldnt go. Fed up about it as I dont even get a christmas party to go to and he has two of those at work!

Need to get on and finish these aprons so thats my mission for today if the kids will let me.

We are taking kids to Kew tomorrow to see father christmas courtesy of dp aunty and uncle so that will be nice if weather stays dry.

Hope you all having a nice weekend.

ooh let me know what its like at kew tracy we're planning on it next week

Evening All

How was santa, Tracyface? I hope the DCs enjoyed it.

I went with DS to a soft play birthday party today - he loved it (and survived). Now he'll want to go every day.

We have the bossiness in pretend play problem - I have to intervene to tell DD that DS doesn't want to be a guinea pig when he's miaouwing frantically.

(BTW - DD told me the story of the baby Jesus. Apparently there were guinea pigs in the stable )

Hi ,

Santa was lovely but Isaac screamed the place down and had to beat a hasty retreat in the middle of things. He lasted until Santa boomed ' has everyone been good and of course the reply was ' yes ' THats when Isaac started crying.

Melissa is of course convinced it was because he was 'not been good' and now he wont get any presents.

Went to Toddler group party today which was really nice but once again Santa was not a hit with Isaac. He has spent most of the morning either crying or eating!

Im shattered its been a very tiring morning. So I dont think we will have any more visits to Santa now as my nerves cant stand it.

Have to say I felt like the only one chasing around like a lunatic and I had to take him out of the church during the Christmas story because he didnt like the noise that the donkey made, my son is very strange!

Snuggled down this afternoon to watch Aristocats with Melissa, its really cold and I cant get warm.

And our boiler is playing up too and keeps switching itself off

Poor Isaac - sounds like he has a bad case of Santaphobia. (Come to think of it - why shouldn't kids be afraid of a strange man in a white beard with a funny laugh?)

Not having a good day (some of it for reasons I can't really post) and I have DS's party tomorrow and an important work phone meeting around the same time. Aaaaaaaargh How I'll manage I do not know [stressed emoticon] (Didn't help that I'd bent over backwards to get time off to go to DD's xmas nursery singalong and they'd changed the day - I had to take illicit time off so that she wasn't heartbroken. Then she was heartbroken that she had to go to the CM's afterwards. I cannot win )

santaphobia is so common, i cant believe i never knew about it before. my friend's DS, who's a very confident gregarious sort, just crumples whenever he sees santa, anywhere. bless him! i dont think i'll be introducing my DCs to santa just yet though if i can help it.

and of course there were guinea pigs in the christmas story..!!

things in our house have finally started to settle down as i realise where to begin re. tackling the hitting. controlling the controllables etc etc. sticking to a routine and families we know is helping so far. just need to wait for DS to grow out of it and understand when i'm disciplining him (hah. yerright. am i delusional much?!)

DD starting to show signs of regaining her natural ability to sleep through. still waking around midnight and 7am for feeding though. but cant complain too loudly as she also likes to have a lie-in until approx 930/10am. great at the weekends when DH has DS in the morning

Hi All

Just got back from yet another festive playgroup do (this one was a disco ) - the DCs are going to expect chocolate cake at snack time if I don't watch out.

I'm glad there's something for them to do though, as my back is hurting and I@m losing the will to amuse toddlers (so I've been popping painkillers like smarties). I hope I get over it soon before I turn into grumpy mummy (I'm bad enough already)

...Still no xmas pressies bought here

JUST FOUND OUT I AM PREGGGGNANTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats GYA gotta go Isaac flooding my kitchen!

CONGRATULATIONS, GYA!!!

Hi all, what a lovely thread this is. I think I'm eligible to join as i have a 2 and a half yo DD, 18 month DS and a 3 month DS.You all seem to know each other which is great. I've only posted a few times and used AIBU which seems to have quite a different feel to it!

I was filled with pride yesterday when DD asked me to help her with the 'triangle' in her puzzle...i was amazed that she knew what a triangle was, so i pointed to the circle and asked her what is was called...'a custard' of course! My little genius