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Nearly 12-year-old wants to attend Pride and we have said no

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EdgyAzureBee · 03/08/2026 00:57

My nearly 12 DD recently came out as bisexual and wants to go to a pride event. DP (who’s her father) and I both think she’s too young, don’t want her exposed to gender ideology and we said she can’t go. She’s now v angry with us even thou I explained to her why we said no and told her that we always love her. Just trying to do what we think the best thing is for her. She has a class mate she made friends with who is a ‘they’ and she became v interested in this whole thing. I totally didn’t expect her to come out with this so young.
DP and I both have been to pride before (him due to work me socially) and neither of us thinks she should go although DP thinks it’s more like a fayre but I know they sell sexual stuff that I’d not want an 11 y.o. see. She is not happy we said no and keeps pestering us.
My friends agree with our decision, what are your opinions here? I’m new to this so please be kind

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TiredShadows · 03/08/2026 10:51

Mine went to a local one with friends around that age, they found it naff with overpriced tat, and in the several years since, have never had any interest in going back. Neither have I.

So, I'd recommend saying yes, but going with and having some firm rules around that staying near you and that - much like any other public event - if there are adults not behaving well, that you leave that area. With mine, we talked about that while Pride started as a protest for rights that took a lot of risks to attend, it's become largely a themed party in the UK for everyone, and both of those things can lead to things we don't want to be around. Luckily the one we attended, the worst was some drunken making out by the bouncy castle (for some reason, the organisers put the bar a few meters away from the area for small kids).

My kids and I have also had a lot of chats of different ways to view sexuality from around that age. I used the lens of sexuality as a trait that develops over time, particularly through puberty - how they feel about it all at 11 is very real and at the same time doesn't mean they'll feel that way at 21 and those natural changes can be harder if we pin our identity and friendship groups around it. We talked about how through life there will be times when their sexuality is an important part of who they are and other times it's about as important to their sense of self as eye colour. I discussed with them that I think there are limitations to the current cultural framework that defines sexuality largely around which sex we can potentially be attracted to and that it's something we find/figure out. We also discussed gender, gender roles, how they developed, how they want to be perceived by others, and cultural responsibilities. There are a lot of ways to discuss and show there is more out there than the current mainstream ideologies than just banning from attending an event.

EdgyAzureBee · 03/08/2026 10:51

InfoSecInTheCity · 03/08/2026 06:56

My DD is 12 and recently told us she is lesbian, she will be going to Pride with her dad, it’s a reasonably small event in our city, we’ve been to the parade a few years and it’s been kept pretty child safe. There will I’m sure be a few things that raise questions but at 12 we want her to question what she sees and hears and we want the opportunity to guide her through it and help her to develop critical thinking skills and the understanding that she needs to examine a point of view from various angles then come to her own conclusion. She’s at Secondary school, anything she could be exposed to at Pride they’re already talking about at school, this is a chance to be part of that conversation as parents.

I hear you - our DD seems to be reluctant to share her feelings though and doesn’t ask many questions, even though every time she does, I listen to her and give honest, compassionate answers and she seems happy.
It’s hard to get her talking.
Having thought about it, I don’t want her to feel unheard or unaccepted although I’ve already told her that we love her and always will love her no matter what, I’d consider taking her to a family friendly smaller Pride but I haven’t been for years and so many people have said how it’s changed and can be lewd and overly sexual, in a way that’s not suitable for under 18s. I wouldn’t want her to see that sort of thing, she isn’t even 12 yet.

She’s v upset about us saying no and it clearly means a lot to her.
She’s been asking over and over again for us to reconsider, researched it where they have it as a family friendly event, said that we can leave if we think it’s inappropriate, offered to do extra chores etc.
I guess I’m unsure as we already said no and she can be wilful so I don’t want her to think that if she pushes hard enough, we will cave in.
She’s been more distant since she asked to go to pride and we said no.
DP and I both think that we should have maybe said yes to a smaller pride event or take her to some other nice event that she’d love to go to, except when we asked her, she said she only wanted to go to pride!
Opinions and points are so varied on here and valid arguments are presented pro and con, it’s so hard to know what to do for the best! For me having a good relationship with her is very important but keeping her safe is even more important!

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Cailin66 · 03/08/2026 10:53

Gettingbysomehow · 03/08/2026 10:39

The fetish crowd, the leather crowd, the "dogs" on leads, people in thongs.
Very overdone trans women in totally inappropriate clothing playing woman face.
Pride has become a carnival of the sexually grotesque and depraved.
I have lovely gay friends who dont go anywhere near pride for that reason.

Really and there was me thinking from this very thread that's it's very much a 'family friendly' event that has 11 year olds in mind. Just avoid the men dressed as dogs on all fours being lead along on a lead, the one's in furry outfits with sexual parts out, the stalls selling sex toys. Googling Brighton pride pictures I get this,

Brighton and Hove Pride 2026 celebrations in pictures | The Argus

most of the pictures are fine, people out celebrating, the first photo I presume is a gay man and he looks like's he's having a great day, no issue with him, but no I don't think 11 year olds need to see naked women's breasts and some of the other very sexualised pictures. I'd imagine in reality that it's a lot worse in reality - that the really depraved photo's are not on display. And you know what, adults, do what you want. And if you really feel you need to do it in public one day a year, fine too. Because some of us don't need to see that, and we are entitled to stay away. Or we can go along as adults without our children.

Thousands mark Brighton and Hove Pride's 35th anniversary: the day in pictures

Thousands have turned out to celebrate Brighton and Hove Pride, which is marking its 35th anniversary

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/26428686.brighton-hove-pride-2026-celebrations-pictures/#gallery15

EdgyAzureBee · 03/08/2026 10:59

TiredShadows · 03/08/2026 10:51

Mine went to a local one with friends around that age, they found it naff with overpriced tat, and in the several years since, have never had any interest in going back. Neither have I.

So, I'd recommend saying yes, but going with and having some firm rules around that staying near you and that - much like any other public event - if there are adults not behaving well, that you leave that area. With mine, we talked about that while Pride started as a protest for rights that took a lot of risks to attend, it's become largely a themed party in the UK for everyone, and both of those things can lead to things we don't want to be around. Luckily the one we attended, the worst was some drunken making out by the bouncy castle (for some reason, the organisers put the bar a few meters away from the area for small kids).

My kids and I have also had a lot of chats of different ways to view sexuality from around that age. I used the lens of sexuality as a trait that develops over time, particularly through puberty - how they feel about it all at 11 is very real and at the same time doesn't mean they'll feel that way at 21 and those natural changes can be harder if we pin our identity and friendship groups around it. We talked about how through life there will be times when their sexuality is an important part of who they are and other times it's about as important to their sense of self as eye colour. I discussed with them that I think there are limitations to the current cultural framework that defines sexuality largely around which sex we can potentially be attracted to and that it's something we find/figure out. We also discussed gender, gender roles, how they developed, how they want to be perceived by others, and cultural responsibilities. There are a lot of ways to discuss and show there is more out there than the current mainstream ideologies than just banning from attending an event.

I really like your approach!
My issue is that DD finds it hard to share her feelings and doesn’t like to talk about things most of the time.
I share things about my day or feelings but DP is v closed down and maybe she gets it from him. We used to talk a lot about everything but she’s talking less and spends more time on her phone…

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SylvanMoon · 03/08/2026 11:00

Devonshiregal · 03/08/2026 10:45

have you been to a pride event? I take my kid but I know where to go, where to avoid, and notice quickly when something’s happening I wouldn’t want them to see. But that’s because I have years of practice. My experience of pride as a child was seeing people have sex in public, seeing people throwing up. Seeing people pissing blatantly on the streets. Seeing grown adults sucking off dildos as a joke - but as a child it’s pretty disturbing to say the least. It’s an event based on sexuality (at its core and historically) so sex happens. Underwear is sold, sex toys sold, cupcakes sold, alcohol sold, glow bands sold. It’s not just a bunch of people dressed in rainbow being kind to each other. If it’s a big city, it’s hyped up.

And any place where many people are on drugs and are drinking isn’t suitable for a 12 year old. If she wants to go I’d say yes but go with her and go to the parade only. I mean it’s not for kids! (Unless it’s some tiny town and it’s just a parade with some flag waving)

And this whole she’s gonna be a teen soon thing?? Does that mean they encourage and enable her to have sex before 16 because “she’s gonna be a teen soon”?
she’s a little girl! and honestly, how we can’t see that kids aligning themselves with sexuality as some sort of group is wrong is beyond me.

Being straight, bi, trans, etc is not a ticket to a club. It’s a personal identity based on genuine feelings in your body/soul/whatever. It just is you. The reason there’s even a club feel is because of historical repression, but it’s not like the freaking sewing club, or theatre club where people are encouraged to come along and try out a new hobby and make new mates.

and I don’t think parents should be guilted for being concerned about their child being heavily influenced by a new friend. We all want our kids to be who they are - who they actually are.

If this girl genuinely identifies the way she says she does, cool- this will grow, in time, just like it would if she were straight or gender conforming or whatever. You wouldn’t expect the parents to push that before her age appropriateness though.

And if she’s doing this because she’s met people she thinks are cooler than her and it’s giving her a false sense of self to hide behind, then no it’s not cool. and because she’s NOT even a teenager (!) it is their job to protect her - not from “queerness” but to protect her from pursuing things outside of her age level.

This is a very reasoned approach. I think @EdgyAzureBee is also looking at it from a similar angle. I would not be condemning of some pronouncement about sexuality my child made, but I'd certainly not be taking it as an unbreakable truth about that child. It's also acknowledging what Pride has become, not what some posters on here want to think it is or always has been.

99bottlesofkombucha · 03/08/2026 11:02

Cailin66 · 03/08/2026 10:53

Really and there was me thinking from this very thread that's it's very much a 'family friendly' event that has 11 year olds in mind. Just avoid the men dressed as dogs on all fours being lead along on a lead, the one's in furry outfits with sexual parts out, the stalls selling sex toys. Googling Brighton pride pictures I get this,

Brighton and Hove Pride 2026 celebrations in pictures | The Argus

most of the pictures are fine, people out celebrating, the first photo I presume is a gay man and he looks like's he's having a great day, no issue with him, but no I don't think 11 year olds need to see naked women's breasts and some of the other very sexualised pictures. I'd imagine in reality that it's a lot worse in reality - that the really depraved photo's are not on display. And you know what, adults, do what you want. And if you really feel you need to do it in public one day a year, fine too. Because some of us don't need to see that, and we are entitled to stay away. Or we can go along as adults without our children.

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Those pictures will of course not be of the more explicit stuff. Not sure if that would be legal to publish tbh!

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 03/08/2026 11:04

She's getting to an age where it's better to negotiate sensible rules and conditions with her than to try to impose a blanket "no". Don't let her push those boundaries to anything unsafe but if she's willing to go with you, stay near you, avoid dodgy areas and leave if you say then that's OK.

Her feelings and views are likely to develop over time. It may give you a framework to discuss some of this stuff with her and hear what she's thinking.

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99bottlesofkombucha · 03/08/2026 11:05

Ppppoppy · 03/08/2026 07:52

So you’d say the same if a 12 year old girl had a crush on a boy ?

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Umm, why would having a crush on a boy make seeing sex toys and extremely revealing outfits ok?? Do you take your pre teens to burlesque because that’s fine if they’re straight? I don’t.

Mischance · 03/08/2026 11:06

Thiscantgoonlikethis · 03/08/2026 10:32

Pride isn’t celebrating sexuality, it’s celebrating love in a world where being gay still gets you killed, imprisoned and tortured.

Being gay is someone's sexuality.

EdgyAzureBee · 03/08/2026 11:07

Cailin66 · 03/08/2026 10:10

Sometimes we reach peak Mumsnet. This is one of those moments. Going to a wedding is equivalent to attending a Pride parade. Okaaay. I've been to plenty weddings. Weddings are about two people, gay or straight, getting married, a contractual bond. Generally of two people who love each other. All of a wedding celebration is child friendly.

What sexual parts of pride do you think are not child friendly?

I don’t think any sexualised parts of pride are child friendly.
At a wedding people don’t imitate sexual acts or have their privates hanging out. That’s saved for the stag do which is defo not child friendly IMO Lol

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JapanesePotWeed · 03/08/2026 11:08

Thiscantgoonlikethis · 03/08/2026 10:31

What do people think about festivals then? I’ve taken my kids to several festivals where we’ve seen men walking around fully naked (Shambala), people on drugs (all), gyrating women with face paint on their boobs (glasto), straight people grinding on each other (Notting hill), wasted white men puking (all festivals in the UK). All labelled family friendly. This is not MN concern over kids seeing things they shouldn’t, this is homophobia.

Pride as it is now is more akin to one of those Sex/Fetish Expos (do they still happen?) where you could meet and greet your favourite adult performers and buy a ball gag whilst at it. Those events were always for over 18s only.No one was pushing their children through the doors for fear of appearing too close minded or phobic, which appears to be happening with Pride.

EdgyAzureBee · 03/08/2026 11:09

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Mischance · 03/08/2026 11:10

Pride is no longer a jolly event that says hooray I'm gay and it's great to be accepted.
It is now full of stuff that no child of 11 should be exposed to. How can anyone see this as OK?
The sexualisation of children in this way is not acceptable.

TonTonMacoute · 03/08/2026 11:11

Tricky. The pride march in our local ou try town would be fine, some of the big city ones are stuffed with rather creepy fetishists, and even many gay people have stopped going on them.

If you think it's likely to be like the second option then you are right to say no.

Ppppoppy · 03/08/2026 11:13

Cailin66 · 03/08/2026 10:37

What's a 'whole' Pride parade?

You and you alone are the poster who equated a Wedding with a celebration of sexuality. That's is not what a wedding is. It's a celebration of two people getting married, a contractual bond, mostly with two people who love each other.

Pride is a celebration of sexuality. Nothing wrong with that. It's not suitable for children aged 11 if people are dressed up in overtly sexual outfits, BDSM displays, sexual fetishes on display, sex toys on display etc. It's parent's responsibility to navigate life and make sure their children don't go to inappropriate events when they are too young to understand. I'm an adult and will not be going to Pride, but because I don't support gay people, but because I don't choose to go to a sexualised event. Same as I don't go to strip shows, lap dancing clubs, sex shops or drag shows.

By "whole Pride parade" I just meant I wasn't saying a wedding and Pride are the same thing in every respect, only that they both celebrate love, which was the actual point being made in response to "any event that celebrates sexuality of any description." That's it, not some claim that they're interchangeable events.
Also I'd push back on you framing Pride as purely a celebration of sex and sexualisation . It's largely a celebration of love and acceptance, the same as a wedding is, that's the whole reason it exists as an event. I'm not denying there are parts of some Pride events that are more adult, later in the day, certain sections, certain crowds, that's fair. But you're talking about it like the entire thing everywhere is like that, and honestly I've actually been to Pride, several times, and that's not been my experience of it at all. I don't know if you have or you're going off what you've seen online or heard about, but there's a big difference between "some bits aren't for kids" and "the whole thing is inappropriate for children," and you're arguing the second when nobody's disputed the first.

Promisingtree · 03/08/2026 11:14

DinoLil · 03/08/2026 10:09

Seriously?? What's the big deal? My two DS are now late 20s. Not gay. I used to take them to Brighton Pride when they were growing up.

So your experience of Pride is at least ten years old?

MeThreeTwoOne · 03/08/2026 11:27

Absolutely not, the only thing pride celebrates now is trampling all over women's rights, often with violent signs to go along with it, and plenty of perversion.

BlueFahrenheit · 03/08/2026 11:29

I would not let her attend.

Based on the behaviour I have witnessed at Pride, I don't think it's child-friendly.

Ppppoppy · 03/08/2026 11:29

99bottlesofkombucha · 03/08/2026 11:05

Umm, why would having a crush on a boy make seeing sex toys and extremely revealing outfits ok?? Do you take your pre teens to burlesque because that’s fine if they’re straight? I don’t.

Ummm … How the on earth did you get from "would you say the same thing about a 12 year old having a crush on a boy" to "so burlesque and sex toys are fine as long as they're straight"? That's not what anyone said, and it's not even close to the comparison being made. The point was about taking a ‘normal’ (hetero ) crush seriously versus dismissing a same sex one as a phase, nothing there was about what kind of adult content is acceptable to expose a child to. If you genuinely think there's a link between those two things, that says a lot more about the leap you're making than it does about anything I or anyone else has actually said.

BlueFahrenheit · 03/08/2026 11:34

I am genuinely surprised that parents would take their children to celebrate Pride.

The last time I attended Pride, there were hordes of topless men, wearing next to nothing and acting lasciviously. I am not a prude; however, this behaviour is unacceptable, especially around children.

The icing on the cake was when my husband and I were squirted with a dildo-shaped water gun by a topless Speedo-wearing 60-year-old.

No thank you.

Laurmolonlabe · 03/08/2026 11:35

11 is too young to attend any event like this
Also being supportive of non binary/ bisexual child is fine , but encouraging it is not a great idea especially considering her age- children are very easily influenced at such an age.

clearlyy · 03/08/2026 11:39

I am bisexual and have been, openly, since I was 14. I hated pride, I don’t like people in leather and big willy inflatables and things like that. I’m not a prude but I just don’t want to see kink in public. It’s not a place for kids.

BlueFahrenheit · 03/08/2026 11:41

The smut I witnessed at Brighton Pride a few years ago was deplorable.

Inappropriate groping
Couples having sex in alleyways
Couples openly having sex on the beach

Why does one have to be semi-nude to enjoy Pride? I fail to understand the correlation.

PrettyPickle · 03/08/2026 11:42

@EdgyAzureBee I think saying “no Pride at all” is what’s causing the conflict, not Pride itself.

Pride varies hugely, some parts are adult‑themed, but the main parade and community stalls are usually family‑friendly. It also depends on the size of the event as to the capacity for "more mature" stands. The safest option isn’t banning it, it’s going with her to chaperone for lack of a better word.

She’s exploring identity, which is normal at 11–12. A supervised Pride lets her feel supported while you steer her away from anything you feel is too mature.

A blanket ban risks making her feel you’re rejecting her, not the event. A chaperoned visit shows you love her, you’re involved, and you’re keeping her safe. Do this and the worst case scenario is that she grows up feeling allowed to explore her identity and hopefully with more compassion and a willingness to live and let live.

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