16 Year old daughter doesn’t want to work 😢😕

[HeatherBlack1990]

PLEASE lovely girls ! I need your input 🙏🤝🫂
16 year old daughter has just been offered A CHANCE to come & help out in a busy office to give her something to do in the long Summer months
I know the employers & they are lovely 👍💕
Daughter can’t really be bothered 😕 AND expects ME to book & pay for dance schools and basically fund EVERYTHING all Summer long & BEYOND
It’s not so much the money - it’s that she has very little motivation 😢😞
I had my first job at 11 & worked part-time all through A Levels
Jess shows NO such motivation
ANY / ALL comments gratefully received 🙏🤝💕
Even the negative ones !!!

It’s not easy to find work for a 16 year old these days, especially a ahort term role for the summer and with people you trust. I would also want my child to take it up.

So the law about being in education or training doesn't count? When was that law cancelled?

@HarshbutTrue2 some information from gov.uk and various council websites for you.

Full time work can include in-house training.
Plus if a 16/17 year old is working full time then the government is just happy they are not a NEET.

@HarshbutTrue2 it doesn't say "training" has to be in a school or college.

They might in England but I doubt the LA would give a shit in Scotland.

If someone doesn't want to work or engage in just don't see how LA or anyone else can make them.

Just out of interest. What is your line of business? How much does your public and employers insurance cost?

I had my own business and employees several years ago. I had NVQ students working for me, among others, the insurance was astronomical then. The NVQ students attended college one day a week.

I don't have a business.
However I have various nieces and nephews that worked perfectly legally after "dropping out" of post 16 education.
One was working for a major high street retailer. He did the in-house management training scheme from age 17.
He's a store manager now at age 25.

Then stop paying for her to go out with friends

dont give her an option. Tell her she is working esp if part time and how lucky she is to have this opportunity

@HeatherBlack1990 just a random thought....
As your daughter's post 16 plan is to go to 6th Form - does she actually want to go?
Her lack of motivation could be down to the thought of being "forced" to do something in September.
Are there any colleges she could go to that offer dance courses (there's various btec courses in dance)?
It just seems odd that despite having an interest in something (dance) she isn't planning on actually doing a qualification/course in it.

I work for my family construction firm. I don’t know the cost of our EL & PL. we had a significant claim recently so it went up but our broker only asks the number of employees, not the ages. They are more concerned with our subcontractors.

Some places need staff to be left alone, you can't do that until 18. A barista in a small coffee shop or maybe someone manning a desk at a kennels.

Some places also won't accept under 18 because of alcohol licences (some places do, but they have to work around it). DS found it a lot easier to get interviews (still hard to get jobs!) once he turned 18.

If he did the in house management training scheme, he was actually in training . Therefore, not a NEET.

Personally, I wish there were more schemes like that. Unfortunately, theres not many about. I am all in favour of an extra year in college, or A levels. However, I do realise that not all young people want to do that.

There's a lot of mixed messages. The government wants to give 16 year olds the vote. Common sense dictates that if they are old enough to vote, they are old enough to drive, own a house, join the army and leave education.

The government wants to give 16 year olds the vote.....

People who have the vote should have some experience of adult life. When the voting age was reduced to 18, the school leaving age was 15 and many did leave at 15 or 16 and had been out at work for a while by the time they actually got to use their vote.

@HarshbutTrue2 yes my nephew wasn't a NEET.
Nor were any of my other relatives as they were employed legally.
My point is you seem to think if a 16-18 isn't at school, college or an apprenticeship they are breaking some law and they will be "dragged back to school".
They won't.
The government doesn't really care.
They aren't entitled to any benefits at that age so it's not costing the government anything and if they get a job the government is happy.

Op surely you just say to her
”I am providing one week of dance camp as that’s what I can comfortably afford. Like many others your age you will need to get a job and pay for another week if you want to do a second. I have found this job for you and I expect that you will need to work to cover extra dance camp, im willing to sit with you and help you budget it out (I would be willing to front up the deposit for the second week, but would make it clear if she pulls out I expect it to be paid back). As well as that, next year you will need to work to cover your own spending money, make up and anything that’s not a need. I love you so much, but I don’t want you to suddenly be 18 and not understand how money works, and how budgeting works”.

if dance is her passion (even if she’s pants at it) then getting what she wants from working (more dance) might help motivate her so you also get what you want (more motivated daughter/ reference/job and budget experience)