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I dont want my eldest anymore and I need help

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breakingpoint3222 · 04/06/2026 09:26

I have 2 children. The youngest is 4. My eldest is 6. My youngest is a boy. My eldest is a girl.

Im not going to drip feed. Im going to give as much information as possible.

My eldest I believe is on the spectrum. We have been to the gp. We are on a waiting list. We are on waiting lists for things that school offers. School have flagged she is about 9 months behind and she is going to struggle in year 3. She's currently in year 2 and goes 7 at the end of this month.
She is violent at home. She has beaten me many times. She throws things at me, hits me, bites me, pulls my hair. She does the same to her little brother who is absolutely petrified of her.
She has to be in charge. Its very much her way or no way.
She has no respect for any adult. She rolls her eyes, speaks to me like im stupid, screams at me and her brother.
She doesnt sleep. That is usually when the violence starts. She isnt sleeping until 1 or 2 am. Shes exhausted.
As she's screaming and hitting me my youngest is also not sleeping properly and as he's just started reception this is hard
I cant give him any one to one attention when she's here. She hates my attention being on anything but her. She will pull my hair and scream. She will hurt him

School is a massive issue. She hates school. School have flagged no issues except her learning is behind. She refuses to go. Screaming and crying. We are usually late which again impacts on my youngest.

I have no support. My ex husband left when the youngest was born and apart from maintenance is not involved. I have no family.
I dont want to do this anymore.

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TheGreatFairyRescue · 04/06/2026 16:11

OP, phone social services now please. Or 999 if you feel you are at risk of harming her or her you/ herself.

Make that appointment tomorrow with the school. Please do what you can do now, in the first instance.

Drag her to the GP before they shut if you have to, whatever it takes

breakingpoint3222 · 04/06/2026 16:11

Ive phoned the gp. Ive spoken to school. Ive followed the advice given. Or is there some magic get help now advice ive missed? Yeah she is 7. Im also covered in bruises and cuts and a black eye. I am nothing like my ex husband. Im here. If I was anything like him id have fucked off in the car by now.

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TheGreatFairyRescue · 04/06/2026 16:12

Phone social services and as I said, if you feel she is a risk to herself or others, 999 and mental health team. For you if nothing else

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breakingpoint3222 · 04/06/2026 16:12

The gp told me to phone back in the morning. I'd take her there now but I have absolutely no way of getting her in the car. Not safely anyway

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breakingpoint3222 · 04/06/2026 16:13

Social services said i need to speak to school and my gp so im clearly going around in circles

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StillgotmyiPod · 04/06/2026 16:14

breakingpoint3222 · 04/06/2026 13:58

Im employed. I work 3 days a week from home. I just need everything to stop. I dont want to go pick her up. I really dont

Ok OP. I'm going to give you some advice that is, sadly, far from ideal but which will actually force someone to act:

Don't pick her up from school tomorrow.

Write an email explaining the situation, explaining the abuse you and your son are suffering, and asking the school to hand her to social services. Have it drafted on your phone. Pick up your son, drive away, and send the email.

This is NOT what you should have to do. And if I had any faith that you would get actual support if you asked, I would not be advocating this.

There are frankly no resources and support, and it's shocking. You might be offered some courses or respite for one morning every other month, but you and your son need to get away from this abuse now - not in 18 months time.

Mumoftwoadults · 04/06/2026 16:15

Ring the NSPCC now. Alternatively 999.

RoseField1 · 04/06/2026 16:17

breakingpoint3222 · 04/06/2026 16:13

Social services said i need to speak to school and my gp so im clearly going around in circles

I'm sorry, I'm not going to be encouraging at all here but I need to be realistic.
GP won't help her. They can refer her to CAMHS but you'll have a very long waiting list. They might be able to help you with some antidepressants or signing you off work if that would help at all.
School won't be able to help much either. They can meet you to discuss your concerns and they may be refer her to school counselling or mentoring or pastoral support. It won't be a short notice intervention though.
Social services might open an assessment but it's not going to lead to any urgent hands on help.
Do you have any other relatives or friends who could help?

breakingpoint3222 · 04/06/2026 16:17

No it is me and my 2 children.

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Mumoftwoadults · 04/06/2026 16:17

StillgotmyiPod · 04/06/2026 16:14

Ok OP. I'm going to give you some advice that is, sadly, far from ideal but which will actually force someone to act:

Don't pick her up from school tomorrow.

Write an email explaining the situation, explaining the abuse you and your son are suffering, and asking the school to hand her to social services. Have it drafted on your phone. Pick up your son, drive away, and send the email.

This is NOT what you should have to do. And if I had any faith that you would get actual support if you asked, I would not be advocating this.

There are frankly no resources and support, and it's shocking. You might be offered some courses or respite for one morning every other month, but you and your son need to get away from this abuse now - not in 18 months time.

Yes, yes!

TheGreatFairyRescue · 04/06/2026 16:18

Okay so first thing tomorrow it’s phoning the school and GP and threatening to hand your daughter over to social services tomorrow afternoon if you are not taken seriously.

Now is the time to shout and scream and FORCE people who should be supporting you, to support you.

Do you have any friends who could take your youngest tonight?

RoseField1 · 04/06/2026 16:18

StillgotmyiPod · 04/06/2026 16:14

Ok OP. I'm going to give you some advice that is, sadly, far from ideal but which will actually force someone to act:

Don't pick her up from school tomorrow.

Write an email explaining the situation, explaining the abuse you and your son are suffering, and asking the school to hand her to social services. Have it drafted on your phone. Pick up your son, drive away, and send the email.

This is NOT what you should have to do. And if I had any faith that you would get actual support if you asked, I would not be advocating this.

There are frankly no resources and support, and it's shocking. You might be offered some courses or respite for one morning every other month, but you and your son need to get away from this abuse now - not in 18 months time.

Social services can't and won't take her into care just like that. This is horrible advice. It also runs the risk of OP being arrested for child neglect.

breakingpoint3222 · 04/06/2026 16:19

I dont have anyone. He's made friends at school but im not close with the parents to ask them to take him overnight.

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RoseField1 · 04/06/2026 16:20

TheGreatFairyRescue · 04/06/2026 16:18

Okay so first thing tomorrow it’s phoning the school and GP and threatening to hand your daughter over to social services tomorrow afternoon if you are not taken seriously.

Now is the time to shout and scream and FORCE people who should be supporting you, to support you.

Do you have any friends who could take your youngest tonight?

You can't just hand a child a child over to social services. Why do you think that's ok or a normal thing to try to do? You think it's ok to abandon a child and expect her care to just be taken over by strangers?

TheGreatFairyRescue · 04/06/2026 16:20

RoseField1 · 04/06/2026 16:18

Social services can't and won't take her into care just like that. This is horrible advice. It also runs the risk of OP being arrested for child neglect.

The OP is in no way neglecting her child but she is at bloody breaking point and that is really dangerous for both herself and her child.

I’m starting to think we should all phone SS with the OP’s consent and ‘report’ that she needs urgent help!!

StillgotmyiPod · 04/06/2026 16:21

RoseField1 · 04/06/2026 16:18

Social services can't and won't take her into care just like that. This is horrible advice. It also runs the risk of OP being arrested for child neglect.

In these circumstances, there is zero chance OP would be prosecuted. It's simply not in the public interest to prosecute desperate parents in crisis.

Social services will have to organise emergency foster care.

Sadly, this is the only way to force their hand.

No-one should be in the position of having to do this. This is an awful situation though and it has to stop now. So OP is going to have to force the issue. Until she does something drastic like leave her daughter at school, then unfortunately she is not going to get any meaningful help.

Phineyj · 04/06/2026 16:21

Dliplop · 04/06/2026 15:37

Okay, we are better most days now, but had this earlier.

You need her regulated like peeling layers off an onion. Some help like melatonin from the GP to get her sleep, and other referrals like mental health and OT or physio- she may have sensory or other needs (proprioception, core instability) making life harder.

Ask the school or another special needs parent if you can borrow ear defenders, weighted blanket, compression or weighted vest, compression shirt etc to see how she responds before buying- and consider buying anyway and kids loops or alpine earbuds.

No on purpose crowds or noisy places, grocery delivery and Amazon! Do any cooking while kids are at school. It fucking sucks. Listen to your music and watch your shows and have a walk while you work/during school.

Get her a tablet. A tablet is better than constant elevated cortisol. She might break it but try a cheap one. Baths are also great for calming down and she might need one after school to chill out. Sometimes my son needed multiple a day. You can also try swimming as a family instead of noisy lessons.

Treat her 2-3 years younger than she is - and she might want to be your baby and be fighting for that attention.

Read the explosive child (when the fuck are you supposed to read) and in a calm time ie TV tell her you want to work together on making her life better, and you can chat about it later. Don’t expect a response.

For bed without melatonin have her in pjs and clean teeth if possible and then let her watch a show or something like marconi union calming music/we did chalkboard music of our son’s interests. During this have a nice cozy bedtime with your son, and then do cuddles with daughter. She probably needs mama time and can’t.

Yes screentime is going to be too much, but you can reduce it once things are going well. We also try to direct to things that are longer form and still engaging like wild kratts and land before time. Our public broadcaster has great stuff. If she’s behind on reading, alphablocks catches attention and helps literacy

If mealtimes are hard, I just left son’s food out and he could eat as his own choice, not mine (low demand technique). You could also let her eat by the TV while you and son eat at the table. Let her know you would love her to join you but want her to decide which is calmer.

For activities like painting or crafts just start doing it and she might join. Puzzles just buy cheap off shein or temu or pound shop and accept they might get ruined. She is probably also ready for LEGO. Just start doing some and she may join in. She is probably bored as well as lonely, angry and overstimulated. I’ve heard games like minecraft or tula?land are good but we haven’t done them. If you know what her passion is, indulge it.

When she’s feeling okayish ask her to sort through her clothes and get rid of anything not uniform that she dislikes. For uniform I guess you need to talk to the school.

My son’s school refusal is worse when seasons change/different jackets etc. We finally have shoes he’ll put up with.

As an example, at the beginning of this school year we were doing what I thought was amazing compared to before, but still hard.

we/I’d dress my son downstairs while baby brother sometimes dressed himself. He’d hit me the whole walk to school (if your youngest isn’t at school, see if a neighbour can watch him while you go). Sometimes he’d lie down flat. Sometimes I cried. Sometimes I dragged, sometimes I took a deep breath and managed.

Any chores or cooking happened while he was at school. After school I met him with a cookie and he hit less but took forever getting home. At home I kept my body between him and baby brother and then would read a book and he’d gradually climb on my lap. In Wednesday and Friday I’d do TV instead. After an hour or two he’d take off his jacket and use the toilet and eat. God help me if I’d needed the toilet before then. By that point he’d want to ramble about his interests and do some crafts.

Now 4/5 days the walks are better, we started him dressing himself in January and he does it 2 or 3 days a week. If I haven’t cooked I can now out frozen beige stuff or leftovers to warm up. We still do OT or PT once a week and he has an IEP at school and good teachers. They went to a soft play area as a field trip and he spent most of it under a slide but happy. My goal is to replace OT and PT with martial arts.

oh god I want to cry writing it because I might never have a career again and I usually focus on how good it is and not how our life centres around all of this. But it does get better.

oh! And tie every complaint to healthcare or school around education or activities of daily living. Not around behaviour.

Sarah cannot eat her meals because she cannot cope with the fact her brother eats differently and she expresses that through anger. I am worried about her ability to nourish herself

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She goes mental and attacks her brother because he holds his fork in the wrong hand and beats me to shit when I protect him.

for your appointments
I am burnt out and can’t take adequate care of the kids because I am always stressed

This is good advice.

We took a similar approach and our child is now 13, doing well at a mainstream secondary school and rarely violent.

Hang in there, OP. The darkest hour comes before the dawn.

If anyone doubts that a 7 year old can hurt you physically, break your heart or be impossible to calm. Think again. They can.

RoseField1 · 04/06/2026 16:22

TheGreatFairyRescue · 04/06/2026 16:20

The OP is in no way neglecting her child but she is at bloody breaking point and that is really dangerous for both herself and her child.

I’m starting to think we should all phone SS with the OP’s consent and ‘report’ that she needs urgent help!!

You can do whatever you like but that's not going to magic up a foster placement for this child today.

x2boys · 04/06/2026 16:22

RoseField1 · 04/06/2026 16:17

I'm sorry, I'm not going to be encouraging at all here but I need to be realistic.
GP won't help her. They can refer her to CAMHS but you'll have a very long waiting list. They might be able to help you with some antidepressants or signing you off work if that would help at all.
School won't be able to help much either. They can meet you to discuss your concerns and they may be refer her to school counselling or mentoring or pastoral support. It won't be a short notice intervention though.
Social services might open an assessment but it's not going to lead to any urgent hands on help.
Do you have any other relatives or friends who could help?

This is unfortunatley the reality
I dont think some posters realise how little help is out there .

TheGreatFairyRescue · 04/06/2026 16:23

RoseField1 · 04/06/2026 16:20

You can't just hand a child a child over to social services. Why do you think that's ok or a normal thing to try to do? You think it's ok to abandon a child and expect her care to just be taken over by strangers?

How do you think children die? Parents murder children, it happens. Often because they are at breaking point.

This child sounds like she is in serious danger of hurting herself tonight or the OP doing so!

Surely social services realise that if a parent says ‘o can’t cope, take her’ that they are at breaking point and they need to intervene?!

RoseField1 · 04/06/2026 16:23

StillgotmyiPod · 04/06/2026 16:21

In these circumstances, there is zero chance OP would be prosecuted. It's simply not in the public interest to prosecute desperate parents in crisis.

Social services will have to organise emergency foster care.

Sadly, this is the only way to force their hand.

No-one should be in the position of having to do this. This is an awful situation though and it has to stop now. So OP is going to have to force the issue. Until she does something drastic like leave her daughter at school, then unfortunately she is not going to get any meaningful help.

They won't have to organise emergency foster care at all. Realistically they can't. Emergency foster care doesn't exist in most areas. More likely is they will contact police who will collect the child and return her to her mother.

Mumoftwoadults · 04/06/2026 16:24

Ring the NSPCC now. Your son is at risk and your daughter is putting herself and you both at risk.

RoseField1 · 04/06/2026 16:25

TheGreatFairyRescue · 04/06/2026 16:23

How do you think children die? Parents murder children, it happens. Often because they are at breaking point.

This child sounds like she is in serious danger of hurting herself tonight or the OP doing so!

Surely social services realise that if a parent says ‘o can’t cope, take her’ that they are at breaking point and they need to intervene?!

Out of nowhere? No social services involvement up to now, no previous assessments, just rock up and here have my child? No, that is not how social services works and not how getting a child into foster care works.

I do recommend OP contacts social services, but that doesn't mean it will result in the child going into care now or ever. And there is nothing to indicate the DD is at risk of harm from her mother, let alone of death FFS.

x2boys · 04/06/2026 16:25

TheGreatFairyRescue · 04/06/2026 16:20

The OP is in no way neglecting her child but she is at bloody breaking point and that is really dangerous for both herself and her child.

I’m starting to think we should all phone SS with the OP’s consent and ‘report’ that she needs urgent help!!

Have you any udea how many families need urgent help ?
Social services cant provide resources they dont have.

StillgotmyiPod · 04/06/2026 16:28

RoseField1 · 04/06/2026 16:23

They won't have to organise emergency foster care at all. Realistically they can't. Emergency foster care doesn't exist in most areas. More likely is they will contact police who will collect the child and return her to her mother.

Then OP refuses to have her back until proper support and respite is in place and both her and her son can be safe in their own home.

The current situation is unacceptable and untenable. You have said yourself that there is no help.

So what is OP to do? Just accept that her and her son are going to be used as a punching bag for years to come?