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Wife refuses to rehome cat that scratches baby

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zorkolot · 03/04/2025 19:38

I would like everyone's honest opinion. My wife and I have a 7-month old baby and 2 cats. 1 of the cats is appropriately social and docile. The other cat scratches impulsively, is unpredictable when feeling defensive, and tends to scratch and dig his nails even when playing (I'll call him Fluffy). My wife says Fluffy was weaned a bit too early and this is just the way he is.

We had an incident a few months ago, where Fluffy scratched our daughter on the face bad enough to break the skin and leave a scratch. We think it's because she grabbed his tail (while she was in a sleeper on the couch) and this surprised him and he swatted instinctively. I told my wife then, that this was a problem- that while I tolerated Fluffy impulsively scratching us adults- that I no longer thought it was a good idea for him to be around our baby; that #1 he has proven he has no problem scratching her and #2 she is too young to know any better and will eventually try to grab the cat again. I asked her if it it would be ok to send Fluffy to her mother's (who has taken care of the cat before). Her mother lives about 40 minutes away on the other side of town, but we do visit at least monthly. My wife's response was defensive and while she told her mother about the request, she refused to follow through and rehome the cat. She believed our daughter would learn the hard way, by being scratched enough times (as stupid as that sounds), and that she would learn to engage with this cat differently. I thought this was unreasonable given our daughter's age, that we can't teach her yet to avoid situations like this, and that it would only result in unnecessary injury to her.

Last night, Fluffy scratched our daughter on the face again. This was a lighter scratch that thankfully didn't break the skin. My wife said she was partly to blame because she allowed the cat to get too close to our daughter- and when she moved to shoo him away that Fluffy jumped up frightened and somehow scratched our daughter on the face in the process. She felt since it was an accident and not on purpose- that the cat was not at fault.

My problem with her reasoning is whether the cat means to or not- or daughter gets scratched. A cat that means to do something can be taught to discourage the behavior. A cat that scratches instinctively or defensively however, cannot be taught anything and will just keep scratching. I feel our daughter is going to get victimized again and again from this cat.

I again brought up the subject of rehoming the cat with her mother, to which she refused, insisting it was an accident. We argued that night, where I claimed she chose the cat over our daughter. She said that made her "feel terrible", for which I did not feel particularly sorry for since I knew it was the truth. I suggested we rehome the cat with her mother until DD is old enough to talk and understand to be careful around Fluffy. My wife was uninterested.

Today, my wife sent me a text while I was at work. She refuses to rehome Fluffy with her mother, and said that many things could be dangerous to DD and we can't prevent them. She brought up unrelated subjects like falling off the couch, me, the baby's own nails, the babysitter, the baby sitter's animals, and her mom's dog. I think my wife's attitude is ridiculous.

I am wondering about next steps.

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Scrubbingblinds · 04/04/2025 10:12

JandamiHash · 04/04/2025 07:52

A responsible parent that’s who

No, a responsible parent risk assesses situations. Removing the cat doesn't remove the issue, that the parents havent cared to keep the child safe. The DC will still be more at risk from stairs, sharp objects, sharp corners, water, electricity. Responsibile parents can keep a child safe around a cat.

C152 · 04/04/2025 13:03

Tuttifrutticutiepie · 04/04/2025 00:46

This is one of the most farcically over the top things I've ever seen on this site. In what way does it get worse than the cat scratching the baby? It's already done its worst. It's not going to pull a shotgun out from behind its back. It's literally only ever going to scratch the baby and then run away. Something which will at worst, require a cuddle and a plaster, and is also easily preventable through very simple measures. The cat is already likely to be learning very fast to remove itself from proximity to the baby if given the freedom/opportunity to do so. Omg

Edited

Seriously? You can't imagine what would be worse than a cat lightly scratching a baby's face? I can imagine a deeper scratch. Or a bite. Or a scratch on the eye which blinds the child.

Tuttifrutticutiepie · 04/04/2025 13:54

@C152

But you have no reason to assume those things will happen and good reason to suppose they won't. The cat has lived with the child for 7 months and has scratched them intentionally once, after (from the cat's perspective) an extreme provocation. A provocation which can be avoided in future with relative ease. As demonstrated by the thousands upon thousands of families successfully managing small children alongside cats who will scratch if sufficiently provoked - among whom there is a marked absence of blinded and disfigured children secondary to cat attacks(!)

It's possible to scratch yourself whilst gardening, develop necrotising fascitis and die. It's possible that the baby might find a slug, eat it and get lung worm encephalitis, and die. Does that mean she needs to be protected from gardening? Should OP insist that they move to a high rise? Avoid all future contact with soil?

A risk being something you can imagine (which could more or less encompass anything depending on how paranoid you are) doesn't mean it needs to be eliminated from possibility at any cost.

In this case, uncompromising insistence on rehoming the cat is likely to cause significant and harmful acrimony between the child's parents. This approach taken to its extreme will lead to one of two outcomes: the wife concedes to an ultimatum resulting in bitter resentment on her part, or the wife digs her heels in, in which case however right he believes himself to be, the OP cannot force the child's mother to surrender either the cat or the child. The idea that a court would intervene in this matter (as suggested by a PP) is absolutely ludicrous, a delusional fantasy.

Clearly there is a range of opinions on this subject. The OP needs to reach an agreement with his wife taking into account her perspective.

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Trovindia · 04/04/2025 14:21

springbringshope · 03/04/2025 20:09

You’re not someone who have been around babies have you.

7 months. They barely sit up

You can’t reach a 7 month old pet etiquette 🙄

No that's right, my two children who have grown up with multiple cats, plus all the babies and toddlers I used to work with are just a figment of my imagination.

Trovindia · 04/04/2025 14:22

springbringshope · 03/04/2025 20:13

I guess in this case it’s fine to have an XL bully in the house with an infant. You know, just keep the dog away from the baby and when the baby start crawling just guide them away
Jesus. The lunacy on MN is staggering.

If you don't know the difference between a cat and an inherently vicious and known to be extremely dangerous dog breed then I can't help you.

Codlingmoths · 04/04/2025 14:59

lilydragon · 04/04/2025 08:37

Some of the responses on this thread are batshit crazy. Sounds like completely normal cat behaviour, two isolated incidents in 7 months, no real harm done, I’d just be supervising a bit more closely but you can’t just rehome one cat then bring it back again when it’s more convenient for you, poor Fluffy (and the other cat who will also be impacted by this). OP, I think you’re making a way bigger deal of this than necessary. Once your 7 month old starts walking she’s going to have a lot worse scratches and bumps from falling over, other kids hitting or biting her etc, regardless of whether you supervise her. Also if you’re planning to have more kids, I’ve had cats with newborns/babies and another toddler with a baby, I can tell you which one resulted in more stress and close calls so best to get used to close supervision now as it’s much more difficult keeping a toddler away from a baby than a cat!

he knows it’s more difficult keeping a toddler away. That’s part of the problem? I just see the risk to baby’s eyes in particular as too high. If my child’s eyesight were damaged by a pet after we’d had this many conversations I don’t see how our marriage could survive. Fundamentally I wouldn’t trust my partner to parent our child.

the bit I don’t like is the ‘it happened on her watch.’ She’s home with a 7month old. This usually means her watch is all day and all night, and also at the same time as doing everything else. When you’re so amazing at protecting your daughter op, are you also putting the washing on and tidying and washing dishes and having a shower or going to the toilet and getting a little bit of essential sleep as you only had a few hours the night before?

Gettingbysomehow · 04/04/2025 15:03

Poor fluffy, cats are family too.

Icanttakethisanymore · 04/04/2025 15:04

Trovindia · 03/04/2025 19:54

I think YABU. Just teach the child to respect the cat and leave it alone. I had a cat which scratched my son deeply on the face when he was a toddler because he pulled it's fur. I just made sure to supervise better in future and educate my son on being gentle with the cat. The issue didn't happen again.

This might work in about 3 years, until then, let’s just all hope the kid doesn’t lose an eye.

NotMeNoNo · 04/04/2025 15:25

I'm a bit surprised as cats normally stay away from babies/toddlers/people they see as a threat, ours certainly did without needing to scratch. Some cats really are very quick to get their claws out (I'm looking at yours, FIL) and only you two can judge whether this is a frightened/spiky cat who would be happier elsewhere, or whether they just need a bit of time and space. Don't force them together though it won't end well.

thecatneuterer · 04/04/2025 16:42

WithASixPackAndARadio · 03/04/2025 20:36

The cat needs to be kept in another room to the baby, not rehomed. We used doors and pet gates when our children were too little to understand. It’s not difficult, just be responsible parents and pet owners.

Yep. Exactly that.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 17:36

Toddlergirly · 04/04/2025 07:29

Did you take your baby to the hospital, especially after the first scratch? A non-moving baby can’t provoke a cat. The other cat doesn’t hurt the baby. Fluffy needs to go. Maybe raise your concerns with the health visitor.

WTF is the health visitor going to do?!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 17:41

Toddlergirly · 04/04/2025 07:33

You need to prioritise your child, not a cat. Fluffy scratched a non-walking baby two times. The other cat didn’t. It would be neglectful to keep an aggressive animal in a house with a baby/child.

Wise up. The cat is not aggressive. The parents need to look after their baby better. It's not the cat's fault!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 17:42

JandamiHash · 04/04/2025 07:52

A responsible parent that’s who

A murdering see you next Tuesday that's who!!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 17:44

JandamiHash · 04/04/2025 07:53

Personally the thought that someone is putting their baby in harm, who’s already been hurt twice, breaks my heart. There are some hateful people towards children out there.

Gets out the world's tiniest violin. There are some hateful people who would be cruel to animals instead of just looking after their own child!!!

Clearly not an animal lover are we!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 17:47

ThatTwinklyEagle · 04/04/2025 09:48

Not sure why people are attacking you so much OP, but that’s mumsnet for you. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to rehome the cat. Clearly this is causing you a lot of anxiety and you will feel uneasy until it happens. I’m with you, rehome the cat. Trust me, keeping the doors closed all the time to keep your cat & baby separate is a nightmare. Everyone saying you just need to ‘parent more/better’ are being unreasonable IMO. We all know parenting is bloody hard as it is without having to constantly monitor where the cat is/what it’s doing as well. Hopefully your partner agrees in time, but maybe they need some time to adjust. Good luck.

Bloody hell, the rest of us managed it!!!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 17:54

Icanttakethisanymore · 04/04/2025 15:04

This might work in about 3 years, until then, let’s just all hope the kid doesn’t lose an eye.

How many one-eyed babies have you ever seen, where the damage was caused by a cat?!

Buzyizzy217 · 04/04/2025 17:57

The cat scratched but didn’t break the skin? So not a scratch then. I’m with the wife and I’d be telling the little one not to grab the cat either. Child will soon learn.

Icanttakethisanymore · 04/04/2025 17:59

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 17:54

How many one-eyed babies have you ever seen, where the damage was caused by a cat?!

Theres lots of things I haven’t seen but it doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened or couldn’t happen. I’m not passing judgement on what they should do with the cat btw, I was pointing out to the PP that expecting a 7mo to ‘learn’ how to behave around the cat is totally mental.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 18:12

Icanttakethisanymore · 04/04/2025 17:59

Theres lots of things I haven’t seen but it doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened or couldn’t happen. I’m not passing judgement on what they should do with the cat btw, I was pointing out to the PP that expecting a 7mo to ‘learn’ how to behave around the cat is totally mental.

I've never in my life heard of a cat scratching a child's eye out! I'm pretty sure it would be newsworthy if one did! You cannot be this precious about your children or you'd drive yourself mad!

What if you went out for a walk and a bird swooped down and swiped their eye out?!!!

Icanttakethisanymore · 04/04/2025 18:24

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 18:12

I've never in my life heard of a cat scratching a child's eye out! I'm pretty sure it would be newsworthy if one did! You cannot be this precious about your children or you'd drive yourself mad!

What if you went out for a walk and a bird swooped down and swiped their eye out?!!!

Hmm - I didn’t mean lose an eye like the cat was going to ping it out 😂. I meant lose the sight in the eye, which could easily happen if the cat scratched the kids eye. It scratched her face, it could have been her eye.

I’m not precious at all fwiw but I wouldn’t think it sensible to leave a baby alone with a cat who has already scratched it twice. Clearly mitigating action needs to be taken because aside from anything, no one likes being scratched and the cat is clearly getting annoyed / mistreated by the kid.

Utterlyridiculous · 04/04/2025 18:27

You’re being ridiculous.
You sound like a bit of a knob tbh, op. In the way you treat your family and the way you write about your wife. I bet it’s not the first thing that means something to her that you’ve tried to make her give up.

The cat clearly felt the need to defend itself, it felt scared. Keep the cat and the baby apart until the baby understands (and she will soon learn). Are you going to keep her away from other kids too? Keep her from playing outside?

You need help for your control issues.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 18:34

Icanttakethisanymore · 04/04/2025 18:24

Hmm - I didn’t mean lose an eye like the cat was going to ping it out 😂. I meant lose the sight in the eye, which could easily happen if the cat scratched the kids eye. It scratched her face, it could have been her eye.

I’m not precious at all fwiw but I wouldn’t think it sensible to leave a baby alone with a cat who has already scratched it twice. Clearly mitigating action needs to be taken because aside from anything, no one likes being scratched and the cat is clearly getting annoyed / mistreated by the kid.

It was sarcasm.

Not one person has suggested continuing the leave the baby alone with the cat. A baby that young should always be supervised.

JandamiHash · 04/04/2025 18:56

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 17:44

Gets out the world's tiniest violin. There are some hateful people who would be cruel to animals instead of just looking after their own child!!!

Clearly not an animal lover are we!

Why do I have to be an animal lover? I prefer people.

Icanttakethisanymore · 04/04/2025 19:07

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 18:34

It was sarcasm.

Not one person has suggested continuing the leave the baby alone with the cat. A baby that young should always be supervised.

So then we’re not disagreeing, are we?

Trovindia · 04/04/2025 20:41

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 04/04/2025 17:36

WTF is the health visitor going to do?!

Give the cat a stern telling off and send it on a course.

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