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Louiee11 · 01/02/2025 09:22

Need some advice for my friend
So she’s currently 38 weeks pregnant and she’s got social involvement with this pregnancy due to her last child but it’s all getting better
She’s recently got in touch over call with her old mate in prison and been in touch for few days she’s worried that it’s now gonna go against her
he’s in prison for class a or b drugs
He isn’t the baby’s father at all
Does anyone know what would happen or if they would find out ?

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KettleOnCredit · 02/02/2025 16:38

Let social take baby and start again when he gets out. He won't want a baby from another man an you will waste your time
If they take baby then you can have a good start with your boy when he gets out
How long is he in for?

TicklishRubyCritic · 02/02/2025 16:44

Simonjt · 02/02/2025 16:31

Yes

This is shocking
a prisoner could literally say anyone and the prison would then waste resources and, more importantly, potentially really disturb someone who barely knows the prisoner or changed their number to avoid the prisoner or didn’t give the prisoner their number for a damn good reason - to be contacted by a prison seeing if you want to share your number and be contacted by their prisoner. Like some sort of dating agency. Very odd

Simonjt · 02/02/2025 16:48

TicklishRubyCritic · 02/02/2025 16:44

This is shocking
a prisoner could literally say anyone and the prison would then waste resources and, more importantly, potentially really disturb someone who barely knows the prisoner or changed their number to avoid the prisoner or didn’t give the prisoner their number for a damn good reason - to be contacted by a prison seeing if you want to share your number and be contacted by their prisoner. Like some sort of dating agency. Very odd

Why would someone need to change their number? Have you got me confused with someone else??

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TicklishRubyCritic · 02/02/2025 16:52

Simonjt · 02/02/2025 16:48

Why would someone need to change their number? Have you got me confused with someone else??

A prisoner said they wanted you in their call list
they didn’t have your number
so the prison asked you

so now imagine someone who had an awful history with said prisoner and had intentionally NOT given the prisoner their number and suddenly they’re. Contacted by the prison asking if they can be added to the prisoners call list

Simonjt · 02/02/2025 16:54

TicklishRubyCritic · 02/02/2025 16:52

A prisoner said they wanted you in their call list
they didn’t have your number
so the prison asked you

so now imagine someone who had an awful history with said prisoner and had intentionally NOT given the prisoner their number and suddenly they’re. Contacted by the prison asking if they can be added to the prisoners call list

Why would that mean I would need to change my number? Your post suggested the person already had the phone number. The person would just say no.

Kindofembarrasing · 02/02/2025 16:58

KettleOnCredit · 02/02/2025 16:38

Let social take baby and start again when he gets out. He won't want a baby from another man an you will waste your time
If they take baby then you can have a good start with your boy when he gets out
How long is he in for?

Stop it 😂

KettleOnCredit · 02/02/2025 17:01

Ok 🤣🤣

TicklishRubyCritic · 02/02/2025 17:08

Simonjt · 02/02/2025 16:54

Why would that mean I would need to change my number? Your post suggested the person already had the phone number. The person would just say no.

Head. Wall. Bang.

ok so say the prisoner wanted someone on his call list that prior to prison he’d had a very sordid and abusive relationship with. The person had changed their number and the prisoner knew they had. So puts the person he abused on call list for prison to contact.

and this person is contacted by the prison saying this prisoner would like to contact you and if so can we have your number?

you don’t think that would be distressing for the person abused by said prisoner?

TicklishRubyCritic · 02/02/2025 17:08

Simonjt · 02/02/2025 16:54

Why would that mean I would need to change my number? Your post suggested the person already had the phone number. The person would just say no.

You have misunderstood

murasaki · 02/02/2025 17:12

I think @TicklishRubyCritic has a very valid point. Its different for you as you were writing to a prisoner, but I can see a scenario where abuser requests Miss Smith on the list after she'd fled to a refuge for example, and didn't want even to be reminded of his existence.

fraughtcouture · 02/02/2025 17:31

KettleOnCredit · 02/02/2025 16:38

Let social take baby and start again when he gets out. He won't want a baby from another man an you will waste your time
If they take baby then you can have a good start with your boy when he gets out
How long is he in for?

WTF is wrong with you?!!

71622025B · 02/02/2025 17:51

fraughtcouture · 02/02/2025 17:31

WTF is wrong with you?!!

I think it was sarcasim. But serious at the same time op seems more bothered about the dodgy mate than she does her child. Social services may make her choose and she's coming across like she's made that choice

adamduritzvocalchords · 02/02/2025 18:15

So baby isn't here yet and 'mummy' is already lining up a drug dealer in prison as step daddy. Wow. She needs to grow up and make decisions for her children not do what she pleases.

sparklypinkgoblin · 02/02/2025 18:32

Louiee11 · 02/02/2025 11:05

Yes I know that but what would need to be said in the call for ss to be alerted ?

No one who works in child protection is going to post on here how to avoid being flagged to Children's Services. This is sounding increasingly odd. If the mother needs to be told what not to say to a man in prison for drugs offences , then it seems like social services should be involved for a long time. I also wonder what the rest of his offending behaviour includes.

SnoopysHoose · 02/02/2025 18:57

@Louiee11
Every case of a young child being killed in their home, it is nearly always the mother's new boyfriend, your friend is a selfish moron to even be speaking to this man.
Who at 38 weeks pregnant strikes up a 'friendship' with a convicted drug dealer, knowing SS are watching her.
Is she incapable of being single?

KettleOnCredit · 02/02/2025 19:56

Yes, it was sarcasm.

OP should not be allowed to keep this poor child. I hope SS step in and take the baby away.

She's busy arranging a convict step Daddy who will resent the child at best and probably abuse it.

murasaki · 02/02/2025 20:20

KettleOnCredit · 02/02/2025 19:56

Yes, it was sarcasm.

OP should not be allowed to keep this poor child. I hope SS step in and take the baby away.

She's busy arranging a convict step Daddy who will resent the child at best and probably abuse it.

Fair play, you styled it out for a long time before admitting that!!

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They didn’t have my number, I was part of a contact scheme who also didn’t have my number.

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No it wasn’t, it was their proctocol to ask when contact was already in place via letter. Theres nothing appalling about following protocol.

takeabreaker · 03/02/2025 10:14

If he is applying for parole his probation officer will ask him who he is in contact with, where he will be living, how he will spend his time when released. He will have to provide a parole plan. His telephone list and details of people he calls are available to probation. If he has a DV history they will look into your friend and may call social services to see if she is vulnerable or at risk from him when released. Its very simple for them to join the dots and make that call, I cant believe your friend thinks this relationship is appropriate and the fact she is questioning if she will be found out tells me she knows the risk and is choosing to do it anyway.

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Louiee11 · 03/02/2025 10:56

takeabreaker · 03/02/2025 10:14

If he is applying for parole his probation officer will ask him who he is in contact with, where he will be living, how he will spend his time when released. He will have to provide a parole plan. His telephone list and details of people he calls are available to probation. If he has a DV history they will look into your friend and may call social services to see if she is vulnerable or at risk from him when released. Its very simple for them to join the dots and make that call, I cant believe your friend thinks this relationship is appropriate and the fact she is questioning if she will be found out tells me she knows the risk and is choosing to do it anyway.

So it will be the probation officer who will contact ss if needed ?

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71622025B · 03/02/2025 11:32

Louiee11 · 03/02/2025 10:56

So it will be the probation officer who will contact ss if needed ?

Any professionals can pass things on. They have a duty of care. Its also not just about asking the person who's being let out of prison as they are hardly going to grass themselves up are they . Its a combination of things .