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Husband bullying 4 years old daughter

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rabper · 10/10/2024 11:17

Hi there,

Wasn't sure whether I should post in marriage/relationships or parenting but this mostly concerns my kids so I am wondering if another parent is going through a similar situation.

My husband has always been disrespectful to me. He has moments where becomes very mean and mostly he shows very narcissistic personality traits, eg belittling me and insulting me, calling me worthless, that I am nothing in front of him etc. We have been on verge of separation multiple times. He has periods of 1-2 months of peace (not a good relationship but just peace at home) followed by meltdowns, and the cycle goes on and on. We have been together 8 years and have 2 kids.

My elder one is 4.5 years old. She is a sweet and lively girl. He was OK to her until my second daughter was born. I really misread him and always thought at least he would be a good father. But he has started to BULLY my elder daughter since my second one was born. There is A LOT that happens but I will just mention things I can remember quickly on top of my head.

  • If she does something of his disliking, he stops talking to her. Eg if he asks her to pass on something to him (and kids can be forgetful). Sometimes she's playing or doing something else and if she doesn't listen or delays, he would STOP talking to her. Even when she tries to call him multiple times, for few minutes, he would be sitting there scrolling on his phone and does not answer her, making her very upset and she starts to cry. It's almost a daily occurance.
  • He bullies her by calling her cry baby all the time. I leave them for 10-15 minutes and I hear her screaming after a bit because of this.
  • Sometimes he responds to her in a very mean way. Eg if she asks what are you doing daddy and he'd respond 'can't you see what I am doing' etc
  • There are instances where he says to her 'don't try to be my mother', 'are you blind'
  • He deliberately loves my 2yo in front of elder one, while not answering her, asking her to go away, I don't wanna talk to you etc etc that makes her cry even more

I can go on and on. What really troubles me is that she is really attached to him and can't even stay away, so she ends up going to him and then running back to me crying. We have had HUGE fights on this recently. He tells me not to come between them or interrupt. But I have said to him that it's my responsibility to protect my daughter so if you bully her, I would interrupt. And by interruption I don't mean that I argue in front of kids, but sometimes I just remove her from that space/take into another room, or I console her and tell her it's ok etc etc.

He says I am spoiling her by not being strict with her and I am not disciplining her. Which is not the case. I try to communicate boundaries in a firm but gentle ways. I don't think parents need to belittle or insult children especially when they have breakdowns or cry. Instead of consoling or calming her down. He becomes very aggressive with her.

He is very resentful and negative person who keeps grudges even with a 4 year old child. Who does that?
I can write many pages on things that he says to me and what not, but I wanted to know if any other parent has gone through the same situation and what did you do? He is extremely rude and can say very hurtful things to me and her both.

I am 36 yo. I have a good job (100k per year), I have over 110k invested in a house. But I am afraid that even if I separate, and lose my job, how will I take care of the kids alone in this economic situation? My company has been laying people off recently.

TBH I just wanted to shareout and hear from other parents if they are experiencing something similar? How do I protect myself and my daughter? We have talked about it, but he becomes very rude and aggressive. I have known him for 8 years and I know he will not change as this cycle has been going on for some time.

OP posts:
arethereanyleftatall · 10/10/2024 12:24

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

Not at all compared to how they are currently being impacted by having an abusive father and a mother who doesn't protect them by removing them.

pikkumyy77 · 10/10/2024 12:25

You must leave. Read up on narcissistic abuse. And recognize that “she loves her dad” is the most terrible thing you have said. She is learning from the very cradle that love= cruelty. That you must submit to the random tyranny of those you love. That women are helpless to protect each other. That she does not deserve, and will never get, fair and kind treatment except on his whim.

Get out now.

Whyherewego · 10/10/2024 12:27

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

It will only help your DD. The self esteem damage that your H is having will be far worse than any separation impact

Yerdawasasausagemaker · 10/10/2024 12:28

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

A damn sight less harmful than what they’re being subjected to from reading your OP.

Icanttakethisanymore · 10/10/2024 12:29

Do for your children what you were not able to do for yourself; leave him. He will not change.

mossylog · 10/10/2024 12:30

Being in a household with an emotionally abusive father is going to mess your kids up way more than whatever hypothetical issue you think they might have if they were growing up in a loving, secure, single-parent household.

Mumofnarnia · 10/10/2024 12:30

He’s a toxic narcissist! Treating one child like the golden child and the other like shit! Look up ‘narcissistic parenting’ on google! Put yourself in your child’s shoes and imagine how hurt you’d be if your parent treated you like that as a child! He is going to damage her. What will come next as they get older is he will pit the two siblings against each other! Get rid of him op and protect your child. He is NOT a good father he’s an abuser!

Kudds · 10/10/2024 12:32

That's heartbreaking.. even if something happens to you financially cmdo you have family that can help out? Parents, siblings?

Dollybantree · 10/10/2024 12:33

Bloody hell, your poor child.

You do realise he’s going to do severe psychological damage to her?

I would also worry about how he treats her when you’re not around.

Get out, there’s nothing else for it. He WILL NOT change. He’s a fucking evil piece of shit.

FrostFlowers2025 · 10/10/2024 12:33

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

OP, no offense, but the one thing negatively impacting their self-esteem is their abusive father.

Even if separating would have an impact on their self-esteem, how much worse could it be than what they are currently dealing with every day?

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 12:34

OP if you leave him do you think he will seek contact? Because if he does he will definitely get it. This kind of emotional abuse isn’t considered enough for him to not have her alone, unsupervised and overnight- probably every other weekend and one or two weeknights as well.

I’m close to a family in a similar situation, father with narc traits- contact for two siblings is enforced. One is the golden child and the other is the scapegoat. It’s hideous and unbearable but there’s no way to make it stop. Think hard before you separate because you won’t be there to defend her.

Incakewetrust · 10/10/2024 12:34

You're asking how separating affects a child's self esteem but I can promise you, it won't affect even a fraction as much as being bullied and name called by your own father.
Please leave him and protect your children before they're scarred for life.

If you stay, they'll just grow to resent you as well for not protecting them.
I say this as a child who had an abusive father and my mum stayed with him. I've never forgiven either of them.

Incakewetrust · 10/10/2024 12:35

*effect

Ygfrhj · 10/10/2024 12:35

Sounds like my dad. He became much worse as he got older and as we became more independent, which he hated, and he became violent as well.

I wish my mum had been able to leave him. Growing up like that had a huge negative effect on me and my sibling as adults.

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 12:35

Dollybantree · 10/10/2024 12:33

Bloody hell, your poor child.

You do realise he’s going to do severe psychological damage to her?

I would also worry about how he treats her when you’re not around.

Get out, there’s nothing else for it. He WILL NOT change. He’s a fucking evil piece of shit.

If he seeks contact he will get it. Overnight, unsupervised and mummy won’t be there to help her poor child.

DirectionToPerfection · 10/10/2024 12:36

For God's sake OP, wake up.

You urgently need to leave this vile man in order to protect your daughters. If you don't, you are enabling his abuse.

The treatment a child receives in early childhood has a massive impact on their development and can affect them for the rest of their lives. Your DD's self esteem will be destroyed if you allow her to be subjected to this abuse.

You need to see a solicitor pronto, and keep records of your husband's abusive behaviour.

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 12:36

Incakewetrust · 10/10/2024 12:34

You're asking how separating affects a child's self esteem but I can promise you, it won't affect even a fraction as much as being bullied and name called by your own father.
Please leave him and protect your children before they're scarred for life.

If you stay, they'll just grow to resent you as well for not protecting them.
I say this as a child who had an abusive father and my mum stayed with him. I've never forgiven either of them.

How can she protect her children if he gets contact?

Incakewetrust · 10/10/2024 12:38

@SimpleThings101 she denies contact and applies for an emergency court order that she has full parental rights.

SereneFish · 10/10/2024 12:40

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 12:36

How can she protect her children if he gets contact?

She can't (and to *Incakewetrust, *no court in the land would deny all contact with the father because of this). But nor is she protecting them while with him. At least if they separate the children will have one safe home.

MimiSunshine · 10/10/2024 12:41

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

You’re in an abusive relationship so you can’t see clearly but you have to know that staying in this marriage will do far more harm to your young daughters self esteem than separation would.

you need to leave asap and seek therapy for your eldest, or both of them.
shes been emotional abused by her father and you only have a small window to try and undo that.

Dollybantree · 10/10/2024 12:42

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 12:35

If he seeks contact he will get it. Overnight, unsupervised and mummy won’t be there to help her poor child.

Personally I’d move heaven and earth to get away and protect my kids. I’d move to the other side of the country and make it as difficult as possible for him to see them.

I know someone who did this to get her kids away from an abusive father - she moved to Devon from the north and uprooted everything - she also told everyone what a nasty piece of shit he was including the courts etc.

As to be expected and is usually the case with narcs like this he gradually moved on to another victim and lost interest. He doesn’t see the boys now.

OP cannot stay with this bastard to try and protect her dd - that’s bonkers. Get away and figure it out later - men like this usually always move on quickly and forget about their old family.

MimiSunshine · 10/10/2024 12:44

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 12:35

If he seeks contact he will get it. Overnight, unsupervised and mummy won’t be there to help her poor child.

But she’s not protecting them from it now. Staying also models what a marriage is to the children so it’s forever going to repeat.

Separating and having one safe abuse free home is better than none.

LemonPeonies · 10/10/2024 12:45

I've left an 11 year abusive relationship so I'm talking from experience, not judgement. You need to leave immediately and protect your children. He's causing them emotional trauma. Please be strong for your kids.

Jl2014 · 10/10/2024 12:49

Op your response seems absolutely ridiculous to me. You have described a situation currently that is tantamount to abuse and you are asking if separation affects self esteem???? Come on.

Purplecatshopaholic · 10/10/2024 12:51

Protect your daughter op. Get the hell away from this abusive man. He has already damaged her and it will only get worse.

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