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Husband bullying 4 years old daughter

183 replies

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:17

Hi there,

Wasn't sure whether I should post in marriage/relationships or parenting but this mostly concerns my kids so I am wondering if another parent is going through a similar situation.

My husband has always been disrespectful to me. He has moments where becomes very mean and mostly he shows very narcissistic personality traits, eg belittling me and insulting me, calling me worthless, that I am nothing in front of him etc. We have been on verge of separation multiple times. He has periods of 1-2 months of peace (not a good relationship but just peace at home) followed by meltdowns, and the cycle goes on and on. We have been together 8 years and have 2 kids.

My elder one is 4.5 years old. She is a sweet and lively girl. He was OK to her until my second daughter was born. I really misread him and always thought at least he would be a good father. But he has started to BULLY my elder daughter since my second one was born. There is A LOT that happens but I will just mention things I can remember quickly on top of my head.

  • If she does something of his disliking, he stops talking to her. Eg if he asks her to pass on something to him (and kids can be forgetful). Sometimes she's playing or doing something else and if she doesn't listen or delays, he would STOP talking to her. Even when she tries to call him multiple times, for few minutes, he would be sitting there scrolling on his phone and does not answer her, making her very upset and she starts to cry. It's almost a daily occurance.
  • He bullies her by calling her cry baby all the time. I leave them for 10-15 minutes and I hear her screaming after a bit because of this.
  • Sometimes he responds to her in a very mean way. Eg if she asks what are you doing daddy and he'd respond 'can't you see what I am doing' etc
  • There are instances where he says to her 'don't try to be my mother', 'are you blind'
  • He deliberately loves my 2yo in front of elder one, while not answering her, asking her to go away, I don't wanna talk to you etc etc that makes her cry even more

I can go on and on. What really troubles me is that she is really attached to him and can't even stay away, so she ends up going to him and then running back to me crying. We have had HUGE fights on this recently. He tells me not to come between them or interrupt. But I have said to him that it's my responsibility to protect my daughter so if you bully her, I would interrupt. And by interruption I don't mean that I argue in front of kids, but sometimes I just remove her from that space/take into another room, or I console her and tell her it's ok etc etc.

He says I am spoiling her by not being strict with her and I am not disciplining her. Which is not the case. I try to communicate boundaries in a firm but gentle ways. I don't think parents need to belittle or insult children especially when they have breakdowns or cry. Instead of consoling or calming her down. He becomes very aggressive with her.

He is very resentful and negative person who keeps grudges even with a 4 year old child. Who does that?
I can write many pages on things that he says to me and what not, but I wanted to know if any other parent has gone through the same situation and what did you do? He is extremely rude and can say very hurtful things to me and her both.

I am 36 yo. I have a good job (100k per year), I have over 110k invested in a house. But I am afraid that even if I separate, and lose my job, how will I take care of the kids alone in this economic situation? My company has been laying people off recently.

TBH I just wanted to shareout and hear from other parents if they are experiencing something similar? How do I protect myself and my daughter? We have talked about it, but he becomes very rude and aggressive. I have known him for 8 years and I know he will not change as this cycle has been going on for some time.

OP posts:
SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 14:23

jannier · 10/10/2024 14:21

Jesus getting out is her only option with proper advice these stay and suck it up comments only expose them all to more abuse....evidence is the key talking to people getting it on record etc. staying leads to worse

I’m not saying “stay and suck it up”.

I’m being realistic and speaking from experience, OP needs to know how this is likely to develop so she can be forewarned.

Fastback · 10/10/2024 14:24

BeachRide · 10/10/2024 11:30

I weep for your daughters. Why don't you?

This, @rabper. Wake up.

NoWayRose · 10/10/2024 14:26

You sound like a loving parent with a successful career. You can have a beautiful life away from this abhorrent tosser

thoonerismspread · 10/10/2024 14:26

He's formed a bond with her and then taken it away and began with aggression.

She'll have attachment issues for life that need addressing NOW.

You and your daughters need rid of this man.

Turnups · 10/10/2024 14:27

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 14:07

”keep a diary for a while of every horrible thing he does or says to DD. You might need it as evidence in a custody/visitation battle.”

From experience, no one in the system will care. In fact the mother could be risking being accused of ‘parental alienation’ and might even lose custody to him entirely.

How can it be "parental alienation" unless she says things about the father to the child?

Signallingt · 10/10/2024 14:29

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

Hi OP,

The impact of separation will be far,far smaller than allowing your daughter to watch you allow this behaviour to continue. He will damage her self esteem, she will think it will be ok for future partners to treat her like this. You taking her away and reassuring her is helpful but it won’t stick, a good example to her would be taking definitive action to say that this behaviour is unacceptable, and that is looking like separation unless he really is willing to work on this.

Then you need to think about how your living arrangements would work, and access.

Flippingflamingo · 10/10/2024 14:30

I can totally see why everyone will advise you to leave, but what happens if he is given 50% access? Then there is no-one to stand up to him or protect this child whilst she is alone with him for 50% of the time.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 10/10/2024 14:30

Oh come on!!!! You don't really need our advice, do you???
You know the answer 😏

Josette77 · 10/10/2024 14:41

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

Your DH is destroying your DD's self esteem and she is learning that you won't protect her from him.

Separation is not the problem.

OnaBegonia · 10/10/2024 14:45

Good god, you have a great salary and property investment and you're staying and subjecting your DD to abuse, ffs have a word with yourself !!!
Many many women have walked away with the shirt on their back and here you are whining and allowing your kids to be abused.

Justcallmebebes · 10/10/2024 14:48

I don't want to pile on but to be honest, in my opinion, a woman who stands by and watches whilst her children are abused and does nothing, is worse than the abuser

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 14:49

Turnups · 10/10/2024 14:27

How can it be "parental alienation" unless she says things about the father to the child?

Have you any experience of this system?

Turnups · 10/10/2024 14:51

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 14:49

Have you any experience of this system?

No, not personally, but I thought that was what "parental alienation" meant, a child being manipulated into rejecting the other parent. If I’m wrong, what is it then?

Anicecumberlandsausage · 10/10/2024 14:52

I know something about your situation.
My now adult daughter is very insecure and has mild mental health issues. She's a people pleaser. Her dad abused me throughout our marriage and I was too weak to run. Then he started telling our daughter he wished she'd never been born, which is when I finally grew a backbone and said enough! Even after that he tried to gaslight her, and me, into thinking we had misheard him. I will forever feel guilty. Don't make the same mistakes I did OP. Get out, as soon as you can.

DoIWantTo · 10/10/2024 14:52

Christ alive you’re here telling us your husband bullies your 4yo child, which is abuse, and you won’t leave because of sodding money?!? Where’s your priorities ffs

Turmerictolly · 10/10/2024 14:57

You haven't returned to this thread but I really hope it is giving you food for thought and the impetus to start putting plans in place. Is your dd at nursery or school. Make them aware of what is happening so it's noted down - you may need this evidence if it gets to court. You have plenty of savings to rent a place for you and the kids. Do it secretly if you're afraid

SpideyVerse · 10/10/2024 15:04

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

@rabper
The only way separation from this man will impact your kids, is IN A GOOD WAY.

ThatAgileGoldMoose · 10/10/2024 15:04

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

More than living 24/7 with their abusive father, you mean?

haveagoharry · 10/10/2024 15:07

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

The actual separation is far less damaging than continuing to allow a child to be subject to toxic behaviour.

NeverHadHaveHas · 10/10/2024 15:08

My dad did exactly the same to me. 40 years later I’m still having therapy, have had a lifetime of anxiety and I also now have a difficult relationship with my mother as she didn’t protect me even though she wasn’t an active participant in the abuse.

You need to leave.

caringcarer · 10/10/2024 15:10

You have to protect your little girl. She is so young and her own father is bullying her right in front of you. If you don't get her out of this vile situation she will end up as a young woman with no self confidence and full of resentment of you and hating her father. You earn enough to get both your DC out of this toxic situation. Not to do so would be neglect in my view.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 10/10/2024 15:10

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

Being bullied (at school) has blighted my entire life, @rabper - please get your children out of this toxic environment. Your older child is already suffering from his bullying, and your younger dd could also suffer from being his golden child - I have seen accounts from people who were the golden child and it did harm them.

Igmum · 10/10/2024 15:12

I've been you @rabper. He won't change. He will get worse. He is damaging your children. Get out. Yes you can do it on your salary and you can get another job if you lose this one. Yes there will be problems when your DC visit him but they will be safe at home with you. Please please leave him.

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 15:12

Turnups · 10/10/2024 14:51

No, not personally, but I thought that was what "parental alienation" meant, a child being manipulated into rejecting the other parent. If I’m wrong, what is it then?

Edited

Please read this to understand what I’m talking about.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-66531409

Hadalifeonce · 10/10/2024 15:15

Your daughter is not attached to him, she is trying (and failing) to get his love and approval.
She will get more and more psychologically damaged by this as she gets older.
You need to get him out asap.

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