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Husband bullying 4 years old daughter

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rabper · 10/10/2024 11:17

Hi there,

Wasn't sure whether I should post in marriage/relationships or parenting but this mostly concerns my kids so I am wondering if another parent is going through a similar situation.

My husband has always been disrespectful to me. He has moments where becomes very mean and mostly he shows very narcissistic personality traits, eg belittling me and insulting me, calling me worthless, that I am nothing in front of him etc. We have been on verge of separation multiple times. He has periods of 1-2 months of peace (not a good relationship but just peace at home) followed by meltdowns, and the cycle goes on and on. We have been together 8 years and have 2 kids.

My elder one is 4.5 years old. She is a sweet and lively girl. He was OK to her until my second daughter was born. I really misread him and always thought at least he would be a good father. But he has started to BULLY my elder daughter since my second one was born. There is A LOT that happens but I will just mention things I can remember quickly on top of my head.

  • If she does something of his disliking, he stops talking to her. Eg if he asks her to pass on something to him (and kids can be forgetful). Sometimes she's playing or doing something else and if she doesn't listen or delays, he would STOP talking to her. Even when she tries to call him multiple times, for few minutes, he would be sitting there scrolling on his phone and does not answer her, making her very upset and she starts to cry. It's almost a daily occurance.
  • He bullies her by calling her cry baby all the time. I leave them for 10-15 minutes and I hear her screaming after a bit because of this.
  • Sometimes he responds to her in a very mean way. Eg if she asks what are you doing daddy and he'd respond 'can't you see what I am doing' etc
  • There are instances where he says to her 'don't try to be my mother', 'are you blind'
  • He deliberately loves my 2yo in front of elder one, while not answering her, asking her to go away, I don't wanna talk to you etc etc that makes her cry even more

I can go on and on. What really troubles me is that she is really attached to him and can't even stay away, so she ends up going to him and then running back to me crying. We have had HUGE fights on this recently. He tells me not to come between them or interrupt. But I have said to him that it's my responsibility to protect my daughter so if you bully her, I would interrupt. And by interruption I don't mean that I argue in front of kids, but sometimes I just remove her from that space/take into another room, or I console her and tell her it's ok etc etc.

He says I am spoiling her by not being strict with her and I am not disciplining her. Which is not the case. I try to communicate boundaries in a firm but gentle ways. I don't think parents need to belittle or insult children especially when they have breakdowns or cry. Instead of consoling or calming her down. He becomes very aggressive with her.

He is very resentful and negative person who keeps grudges even with a 4 year old child. Who does that?
I can write many pages on things that he says to me and what not, but I wanted to know if any other parent has gone through the same situation and what did you do? He is extremely rude and can say very hurtful things to me and her both.

I am 36 yo. I have a good job (100k per year), I have over 110k invested in a house. But I am afraid that even if I separate, and lose my job, how will I take care of the kids alone in this economic situation? My company has been laying people off recently.

TBH I just wanted to shareout and hear from other parents if they are experiencing something similar? How do I protect myself and my daughter? We have talked about it, but he becomes very rude and aggressive. I have known him for 8 years and I know he will not change as this cycle has been going on for some time.

OP posts:
WallaceinAnderland · 10/10/2024 13:49

You said it yourself - the cycle goes on and on

This will never change. It will get worse. Your children are suffering.

If you don't protect them then you are allowing it.

Happyholidays78 · 10/10/2024 13:52

OP I mean this very kindly. Please leave. I was this little girl although it was my stepfather & I have had no contact with my mum & stepfather since a teenager so well over half of my life & my life is so much better because of it. Don't be the mum who's daughter grows up despising her mum for not leaving. I wish you all the best xx

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 13:53

This is, in reality, all you can realistically hope for. I think @rabper just needs to know how this could go for her and her children, especially if their abusive dad really is a narcissist. Eyes wide open.

Turnups · 10/10/2024 13:54

He is an immature, bullying swine. But before you leave him, keep a diary for a while of every horrible thing he does or says to DD. You might need it as evidence in a custody/visitation battle.

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 13:55

Goldenmimx · 10/10/2024 11:26

This is so heartbreaking. I felt so sad for your little girl reading this. No child deserves this and I fear it's really going to set her up for a lifetime of emotional damage if this continues. I think you know what needs to happen and you quite rightly suggest he won't change. I don't think anyone can unpick why your partner is acting like this but like you say it is bullying and it sounds like he derives pleasure from being cruel. Please do what you can to leave this man and protect your children. Document absolutely everything in terms of his behaviour in case you need to rely on it as evidence further down the line.

Document absolutely everything in terms of his behaviour in case you need to rely on it as evidence further down the line.”

Nobody will care.
from experience.

Conniebygaslight · 10/10/2024 13:56

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

Jesus Christ.....

JaggySplinter · 10/10/2024 13:58

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

When the relationship of the parents is as bad as you are describing, it will be much better for you to separate. The impact of the separation will be minimal in comparison to living in the environment you have at the moment. Please don't worry about the impact leaving will have - it will be so much better for you and your daughters to get away from that man.

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 13:58

Hayley1256 · 10/10/2024 11:28

Leave, note all the things he has done/said down, get a good solicitor so he will not ever be alone with her. What awful things for her tobhear from her dad. Don't teach her that this is acceptable behaviour

note all the things he has done/said down, get a good solicitor so he will not ever be alone with her”

Sorry, that won’t work. If he goes for contact he will get it. (from experience).

MugPlate · 10/10/2024 13:58

Your daughter puts up with his abuse and goes back to him because you do the same.

Shoemadlady · 10/10/2024 13:58

This is horrific. You need to leave now to protect your daughter. What example are you setting by staying? She is in danger of his escalating behaviour.
I earn a third you do and have recently separated and even though I juggle bills, I'm a million times happier and my kids are a million times happier too (similar selfish behaviour from my ex)
End it now and don't look back x

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 13:59

Ebeneser · 10/10/2024 11:56

To all of those saying leave him - how would op then control what he said or did to the elder child if they have e.g. 50/50 custody of them? He sounds like the type of man to deliberately make ops life harder even if that means he has the kids 50/50 when he doesn’t actually want them. That poor child could be verbally/emotionally abused and gaslighted and OP would have no way of intervening.

This. 100%.

Shoemadlady · 10/10/2024 13:59

On your second note, my ex was very similar and my kids have absolutely flourished since he left. They're like completely different children. Happier, laughing all the time, more confident, the list goes on. It was the best decision for me and ultimately for them too x

ClairDeLaLune · 10/10/2024 14:00

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

What will impact their self esteem is staying somewhere where abuse is happening.Your husband is abusing your DD and you are facilitating it by staying. This situation will not get better. It will cause massive long term harm: to your DD. You need to get out of this toxic marriage NOW.

Azure6 · 10/10/2024 14:02

He isn’t bullying her, he is abusing her. You need to leave.

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 14:03

SereneFish · 10/10/2024 12:40

She can't (and to *Incakewetrust, *no court in the land would deny all contact with the father because of this). But nor is she protecting them while with him. At least if they separate the children will have one safe home.

The mother can escape, but if he goes for contact the children can’t. It’s a living nightmare. Yes, the child will have one safe home, but have to go to be ‘cared for’ by an evil bully week in week out for years to come. There’s no good way through this. 😞

Lotsofsnacks · 10/10/2024 14:07

Can’t believe you are asking OP, get out now!! You have a good job, you’ll be fine. How can you stay one more minute knowing how he treats your eldest dd? That poor girl, he’s deliberately taking pleasure seeing her upset 😢 I’m upset for her

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 14:07

Turnups · 10/10/2024 13:54

He is an immature, bullying swine. But before you leave him, keep a diary for a while of every horrible thing he does or says to DD. You might need it as evidence in a custody/visitation battle.

”keep a diary for a while of every horrible thing he does or says to DD. You might need it as evidence in a custody/visitation battle.”

From experience, no one in the system will care. In fact the mother could be risking being accused of ‘parental alienation’ and might even lose custody to him entirely.

Topseyt123 · 10/10/2024 14:08

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

I would say that surely her self esteem will be much further impacted if you stay with this wanker who bullies your poor little girl.

Make plans to leave him now, regardless of what may or may not be happening on the job front for you. You really mustn't let him continue to destroy her mental health as he is doing. You need to get both children away from him.

sexnotgenders · 10/10/2024 14:14

Another victim of a narcissistic father here, pleading with you to rescue your daughters. You have a chance here OP, to make a big difference to your children's entire lives - stay, and your beautiful girls will be broken and damaged forever by this cunt. But if you leave now, you have a chance to build for them a secure home where they can heal and have a happy future. If you don't leave him now it breaks my heart to think of your eldest daughter finding this thread in 20 years time and seeing how many people could see what her future would become, but that her own mother didn't listen. Didn't put her first. Please, don't fail her. Be her mother. Be the one who shelters her and gives her the chance to thrive

jannier · 10/10/2024 14:15

rabper · 10/10/2024 11:30

How did separation impact your kids? Did you ever think it impacted their self esteem or overall?

Why think separation will be a bigger impact than seeing him treat you like shit and now his eldest daughter, soon it will be the youngest when he is tired of using her as a weapon against the eldest.....who isn't attached to him any more than you but is desperately trying to get something/anything from him. Her self worth is rock bottom building it up is in your power by showing her a strong independent mother.....who has plenty of financial wealth to go it alone.

stinkymonkey52 · 10/10/2024 14:15

Please get rid of him, he's spiteful and a pathetic excuse for a man, he'll ruin your child's life and she'll never forgive you if you enable his behaviour.

jannier · 10/10/2024 14:17

Ebeneser · 10/10/2024 11:56

To all of those saying leave him - how would op then control what he said or did to the elder child if they have e.g. 50/50 custody of them? He sounds like the type of man to deliberately make ops life harder even if that means he has the kids 50/50 when he doesn’t actually want them. That poor child could be verbally/emotionally abused and gaslighted and OP would have no way of intervening.

Go to women's aid, gather evidence and get a social worker .....your point means no abused women would ever leave.

jannier · 10/10/2024 14:21

SimpleThings101 · 10/10/2024 12:34

OP if you leave him do you think he will seek contact? Because if he does he will definitely get it. This kind of emotional abuse isn’t considered enough for him to not have her alone, unsupervised and overnight- probably every other weekend and one or two weeknights as well.

I’m close to a family in a similar situation, father with narc traits- contact for two siblings is enforced. One is the golden child and the other is the scapegoat. It’s hideous and unbearable but there’s no way to make it stop. Think hard before you separate because you won’t be there to defend her.

Jesus getting out is her only option with proper advice these stay and suck it up comments only expose them all to more abuse....evidence is the key talking to people getting it on record etc. staying leads to worse

downthebackofthesettee · 10/10/2024 14:22

He is cruel and sadistic and you are not protecting your child from this vile behaviour. You are her mother you cannot let this continue. You must act now to stop this

Topseyt123 · 10/10/2024 14:23

Ebeneser · 10/10/2024 11:56

To all of those saying leave him - how would op then control what he said or did to the elder child if they have e.g. 50/50 custody of them? He sounds like the type of man to deliberately make ops life harder even if that means he has the kids 50/50 when he doesn’t actually want them. That poor child could be verbally/emotionally abused and gaslighted and OP would have no way of intervening.

I get what you are saying, but would still say that leaving him is really the best (only) course of action.

At least then the abuse will only be in one home and the other will be a sanctuary of sorts from that.

Of course he could still do plenty of damage because he's an arsehole and the poor child will carry that with her wherever she is. The situation will remain far from ideal. I'd suppose that informing the school and children's social services about the situation could be something that could be tried, though I wouldn't hold my breath about SS taking much action.

It would be ideal if only supervised access could be the way forward, but I guess that will be becoming harder and harder to get these days. I'd still look into it, but not really expect anything.

I'm no expert, but I just couldn't stay with a wanker who thought it OK to bully my four year old daughter.

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