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4yo being silly - CPS called on us by school

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Junkemail · 27/09/2024 13:22

Our life feels like it's been turned upside over a silly comment my reception aged child said to their teacher that her and my DH have been eating crayons out each others bottoms.

We've ended up with social services knocking on our doors and my DH is being investigated. It is absolute nonsense, she's 4 and says stupid things like this all the time about a variety of people. My DH is being investigated as sexually abusing her now. That's one issue and I'm hoping he's found innocent in their eyes as he's been kicked out the house by then.

But how do I handle comments like this moving forward so it doesn't happen again. She tells lies and imaginary stories that I know aren't true and this time it's ended up with us being in real trouble.

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Typeonesickofchocolate · 28/09/2024 13:22

Zone2NorthLondon · 28/09/2024 13:07

Social services absolutely do have authority to ask an adult to temporarily leave the home. It’s fundamental to child protection. As I said before it’s part of investigation and safety planning Rightly so

"No, social workers cannot force you to leave your home without your consent. Social services will only ask a parent to leave the family home as a last resort, and only if they believe the child is at risk of harm. They must first gain the parent's voluntary consent.

Social services are required to provide parents with all the information they need to make an informed decision. They must also keep a record of any agreements that are made".

Nextweektoo · 28/09/2024 13:24

AutumnTimeForCosy24 · 27/09/2024 18:13

@Nextweektoo

whether the OP has or hasn't 'started the pants rule' (which isn't compulsory or actually any kind of rule) is irrelevant as Daddy should be someone she who helps her on the toilet, in the bath, in changing rooms and seek telp from if it hurts etc

OP asked what she could do to try and mitigate further incidents. Pants rule is an idea for OP 🙄

GuestFeatu · 28/09/2024 13:30

That's why there is a difference in meaning between the words 'ask' and 'force'

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GuestFeatu · 28/09/2024 13:31

Typeonesickofchocolate · 28/09/2024 13:22

"No, social workers cannot force you to leave your home without your consent. Social services will only ask a parent to leave the family home as a last resort, and only if they believe the child is at risk of harm. They must first gain the parent's voluntary consent.

Social services are required to provide parents with all the information they need to make an informed decision. They must also keep a record of any agreements that are made".

My post was meant to be attached to this one

That's why there is a difference in meaning between the words 'ask' and 'force'

Junkemail · 28/09/2024 13:36

Nextweektoo · 28/09/2024 13:24

OP asked what she could do to try and mitigate further incidents. Pants rule is an idea for OP 🙄

I missed the original posted about Pants rule. I've never heard of that before but we do tell her that only certain people can help with her private area (changing, toilet, looking, touching)

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AliasGrace47 · 28/09/2024 13:41

Type, sorry for the confusion, I was referring to your deleted post. You know you said in your deleted post 'La la la. F off.' and said you didn't believe an 18yo would be on here.

Nextweektoo · 28/09/2024 13:44

Junkemail · 28/09/2024 13:36

I missed the original posted about Pants rule. I've never heard of that before but we do tell her that only certain people can help with her private area (changing, toilet, looking, touching)

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/support-for-parents/pants-underwear-rule/
I've found this helpful in support my children in creating boundaries around their bodies.

Typeonesickofchocolate · 28/09/2024 13:51

AliasGrace47 · 28/09/2024 13:41

Type, sorry for the confusion, I was referring to your deleted post. You know you said in your deleted post 'La la la. F off.' and said you didn't believe an 18yo would be on here.

No I didn't. And I haven't deleted a post. You have the wrong person. It does explain someone else's post yesterday about trolling. You both have the wrong person. I would never be rude to someone based on age. And I've never deleted a post.

Typeonesickofchocolate · 28/09/2024 13:52

AliasGrace47 · 28/09/2024 13:41

Type, sorry for the confusion, I was referring to your deleted post. You know you said in your deleted post 'La la la. F off.' and said you didn't believe an 18yo would be on here.

I would also never write like that. You're wrong and your baseless accusation is rather offensive.

chestnutroast · 28/09/2024 13:53

Typeonesickofchocolate · 28/09/2024 11:43

Parents aren't always the best people to raise children. Kids shoving crayons up their bottoms and having their anuses nuzzled by their dad is sickening.

Not “always the best”

but generally speaking, someone who has never parented a child really doesn’t have the foggiest about parenting

chestnutroast · 28/09/2024 13:54

graceinspace999 · 28/09/2024 11:43

This planet!

So the childless people who work in child protection have no right to their say?

This is a deadly serious issue so why are you trying so desperately to derail the thread?

Being a parent does not make you an expert in parenting- ask the West’s children.

Of course they do.

They apply policies and laws regarding child safeguarding

chestnutroast · 28/09/2024 13:57

but we have posters who have never parented
with a definitive and unwavering belief that blowing raspberries on a child’s bottom is absolutely inappropriate

and the vast vast majority of parents know that is not the case

Brassorbone · 28/09/2024 13:59

chestnutroast · 28/09/2024 13:53

Not “always the best”

but generally speaking, someone who has never parented a child really doesn’t have the foggiest about parenting

So only a person who is parenting a second + child has any idea about parenting because they’ve already done it with the first one?

chestnutroast · 28/09/2024 13:59

I am recovering from an operation. and thoroughly bored

so i have had the time to AS some of the posters going hell to leather about how sickening and disgusting certain things are and they’re not parents…. the three i have AS ALL appear to have had horrendous childhoods

Brassorbone · 28/09/2024 13:59

chestnutroast · 28/09/2024 13:57

but we have posters who have never parented
with a definitive and unwavering belief that blowing raspberries on a child’s bottom is absolutely inappropriate

and the vast vast majority of parents know that is not the case

You also don’t know that poster has never parented, that’s why you asked her if she had children. She could have 0 or 12, we don’t know.

chestnutroast · 28/09/2024 14:00

Brassorbone · 28/09/2024 13:59

So only a person who is parenting a second + child has any idea about parenting because they’ve already done it with the first one?

that doesn’t make sense

just pause and think

how that relates to my point that childfree posters being unwaveringly adamant that something is WRONG in parenting despite the overwhelming majority of parents telling them otherwise

is arrogant and a bit daft

MaidOfAle · 28/09/2024 14:04

Typeonesickofchocolate · 28/09/2024 13:51

No I didn't. And I haven't deleted a post. You have the wrong person. It does explain someone else's post yesterday about trolling. You both have the wrong person. I would never be rude to someone based on age. And I've never deleted a post.

No, you, or someone using your account, did say that.

Between AliasGrace47's first post and my post after that, I saw one post that said "la la la f off". Now, there's only one post deleted between AliasGrace47's first post and mine, and it has your username on the top, and the post saying "la la la f off" is gone.

Either you are lying or your account has been compromised. Only you know whether you now need to change your password and check your devices for malware.

chestnutroast · 28/09/2024 14:07

op

Do you have other children at the school? how are you feeling about going in on Monday?

Where did you dh go when he had to leave? did he talk to anyone?

ArizonaRobbinss · 28/09/2024 14:08

They are following their duty of care to the child. It's very reassuring to hear this. They have specific safeguarding policies they have to follow
Whilst I feel for you, I'd urge you to co operate with them

eggplant16 · 28/09/2024 14:13

blowing raspberries on a child’s bottom is absolutely inappropriate

Sounds oblody awful really.

chestnutroast · 28/09/2024 14:15

eggplant16 · 28/09/2024 14:13

blowing raspberries on a child’s bottom is absolutely inappropriate

Sounds oblody awful really.

who for?

my children used to get uncontrollable giggles and beg me to do after bath time!

AliasGrace47 · 28/09/2024 14:21

Yes Typeone, why are you lying? MNHQ will be able to confirm what your post said? I asked for them to delete it and they did.
You didn't delete the post, they did. I can see you care a lot about this subject, and we need people to do that, but taking it our people, especially ones talking about trauma, is destructive.

Typeonesickofchocolate · 28/09/2024 14:28

MaidOfAle · 28/09/2024 14:04

No, you, or someone using your account, did say that.

Between AliasGrace47's first post and my post after that, I saw one post that said "la la la f off". Now, there's only one post deleted between AliasGrace47's first post and mine, and it has your username on the top, and the post saying "la la la f off" is gone.

Either you are lying or your account has been compromised. Only you know whether you now need to change your password and check your devices for malware.

Thank you. I'll have a look. If it isn't an error on your part, it's a clear breach of account security. And remotely. How odd!

chestnutroast · 28/09/2024 14:30

AliasGrace47 · 28/09/2024 14:21

Yes Typeone, why are you lying? MNHQ will be able to confirm what your post said? I asked for them to delete it and they did.
You didn't delete the post, they did. I can see you care a lot about this subject, and we need people to do that, but taking it our people, especially ones talking about trauma, is destructive.

HQ…

@Typeonesickofchocolate is claiming that some kind of malfunction in her posting and that she never wrote a post that was deleted

are you able to confirm?

AliasGrace47 · 28/09/2024 14:31

I'm sorry if your PC has been hacked. There are strange people who might get a laugh doing that, I guess.

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