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School want me to come in 3 times a week?

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WhatanEmbarrasment · 14/01/2024 13:12

Would you find this too much? I have a 9 year old who doesn’t like school he often refuses to go in and this can make us late as it’s difficult getting him up and ready meaning we are often late (it isn’t our closest school and I’ve looked into moving him but he doesn’t want to change schools) a member of staff approached me from his school a year ago to speak about his dislike of school and asked me if I could come in for a meeting I said yes, during the meeting we spoke and she asked if I could come in every Thursday and sit with him for an hour whilst he does his work. I agreed at the time as she said she thought it would help him want to come in but I didn’t realise how long it would go on for, it’s been a year. Initially I thought it would be a few weeks or something?! There’s been breaks where I haven’t been in for illness etc but this started a year ago. The other day I dropped him to school and I had an awful morning where everything was just on top of me so when she caught me I looked like I was about to cry (I wasn’t it was just the last thing I needed) so she asked me to come in the next day, I came in and she’s basically asking me to come in 3 times a week for different things, every week so as a regular thing.

I feel like 3 times a week is far too much, even 1 day a week felt quite full on as I don’t know anyone who has weekly meetings at their children’s school. It hasn’t helped or changed the situation at all. Sometimes I will try to avoid her and drop them and hope to quickly leave so I don’t see her but she has clearly told the office not to let my children in until she gets there as I will buzz but they won’t let me in until she arrives. Would you find 3 times a week too much? I don’t know how to get out of this

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sueelleker · 14/01/2024 15:32

So is there a member of staff with you, or just you and him in the room?

Oblomov23 · 14/01/2024 15:33

Thus is all so very wrong, surely you know this? Please take advice so you can advocate for your son and get him the support he needs.

Ohdearwhatnow4 · 14/01/2024 15:34

I would look at changing his school, as it would make your life easier. It would also make his school day less and maybe the new school could look at if they believe he has sen. You shouldn't be going into the school as it's making no difference and you won't be able to do that at secondary. I'm normally against changing school but sounds like you have run out of options

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NotSuchASmugMarriedAnymore · 14/01/2024 15:34

Where is his dad in all this? Could he HE him? Or go in 3 days a week?

WhatanEmbarrasment · 14/01/2024 15:34

The member of staff is always there

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Mrsttcno1 · 14/01/2024 15:21

At that point though the conversation needs to be that he has to go to a school, so speak to him about which he would prefer to go to. Explain he has to go, so would he rather stay where he is or go to another? Try to involve him in the conversation if possible

the conversation needs to be that he has to go to a school

Except there are other options if school is inappropriate, which is why OP needs to request an EHCNA.

WhatanEmbarrasment · 14/01/2024 15:35

NotSuchASmugMarriedAnymore · 14/01/2024 15:34

Where is his dad in all this? Could he HE him? Or go in 3 days a week?

He has no contact with his father and his father has never been to his school, I am a lone parent, father has no involvement.

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LuluBlakey1 · 14/01/2024 15:41

This is very odd. So the school have had you going in one day a week fir a year and you sit in an offuce with your 9 year okd son all the time you are there and the teacher is also there?

Who is this teacher? His class teacher? Head of Year? Senco?
How long are you there when you go in?
What do you actually do in this office?

I have never heard of a school doing this. Have you asked for an Ed Psych to see your son? He clearly has SEMH needs, so does have SEN.

When you aren't there what does he do at school?

Nanny0gg · 14/01/2024 15:45

WhatanEmbarrasment · 14/01/2024 13:40

Clearly you’ve missed in my post where I said I’ve tried to change his school but he doesn’t want to?

He doesn't want to do any of it, but he has to be educated.

Somehow you need to get to the bottom of all of this.

So an Ed Psych and a paediatrician are the way to go

WhatanEmbarrasment · 14/01/2024 15:47

She isn’t his teacher no and not a senco or head of year I’m not even certain of what her job title is. She just approached me one day I know she does work in the school like groups and clubs with the children and I’ve known her from before but just to say hello in passing mainly. We just sit in the room and he does his work and I help him with it and she just does other jobs but in the room also or sometimes other parents are also there as she runs groups where other parents come into the school to sit with the children whilst they work so sometimes other parents are there but usually it’s just us, the one she’s invited me to on Fridays is with other parents that also come in to school as before that it was just us before that as she said it would be better if it was just us because then he can get a chance to talk about his feelings around school without other people being there. Usually it lasts an hour.

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Vinrouge4 · 14/01/2024 15:51

Sounds like you are doing a teaching assistant’s job without being paid. Doesn’t sound right to me.

HarlaEB · 14/01/2024 16:01

I think school are using you as the reasonable adjustment to support your son.
If you were not supporting in school, perhaps he would be absent.

This guidance and good practice guide give advice on reasonable adjustments that the school could make. Have a read and expect the school have done the same, given that using you is about to end!

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/63ee20a3d3bf7f62e5f76ba4/Summary_of_responsibilities_where_a_mental_health_issue_is_affecting_attendance.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/63ee20a3d3bf7f62e5f76ba4/Summary_of_responsibilities_where_a_mental_health_issue_is_affecting_attendance.pdf

wronginalltherightways · 14/01/2024 16:01

HalloumiGeller · 14/01/2024 13:44

It's really unusual for a child who doesn't have additional needs to hate school, especially when he's only 9. My son is also 9 (nearly 10), and yes, he's not thrilled to go every day (most kids aint), but he does enjoy it when he's there and has friends. Has he definitely not got adhd or something similar? I know it sounds silly, but does he get a lot of time at home on consoles? As this could make school seem "boring" and make him just want to go home. He's not being bullied as far as you know?

I'd be telling him that this is life kid, you're going to be in school for a long time yet so you need to start learning to deal with it for sure! Lol

It really isn't that unusual these days.

I can count quite a few in our primary school who absolutely 100% do not want to be there and act accordingly. Their attendance rates are abysmal, around the 50-60% mark.

It's sad, and it's all gotten worse since the lockdowns in 2020 and 2021.

Paddleboarder · 14/01/2024 16:07

What is the other school at the end of the road like? I would be inclined to make an appointment for you both to look around it, just to get a feel for it. You going into school like this and sitting in the office isn't a way forward. As he gets older he may completely refuse to get up and go to school at all, so now is the time to get to the bottom of the problem with an assessment or whatever. Why do they want you to sit in the office with him? What does he do when he is in the classroom without you?

stomachameleon · 14/01/2024 16:08

You are being passive something is wrong. And as an adult you have to make decisions he may not be in agreement with:
Move school. (He may enjoy the new one)
Make inroads into an assessment for him.
Do not offer to go in more!

Sorry but you need to be doing more for him. This will not get better on its own.

Roystonv · 14/01/2024 16:27

Sorry if I have missed it but only this one person has liaised with you about your son and you don't really know who/what she is? Has there been any formal meetings with his teacher, head of year and head teacher about his problem and the plans they have to help him? Just reads this woman accosted you one day and you have done as she tells you ever since with no real insight as to the overall picture.

Marblessolveeverything · 14/01/2024 16:31

I am sorry but I think you really need to see the school haven't cracked this in five years. You don't know if this is purely the school but from your postings they appear to just be facilitating you supporting him.

Unfortunately it is purely up to parents to advocate and push, it should not be that way but it is.

cheerfulsunday · 14/01/2024 16:41

Your 9yo had absolutely no idea whether he would like school if he went to a different one.

Being able to walk to school may help. You never really know what it is that's filling up his 'stress cup'. He doesn't know either. You have to try and figure it out.

You owe it to him to take control and move him. We have to make these tough decisions for them sometimes. You have nothing to lose because he hates it anyway.

roundtable · 14/01/2024 16:47

Is he happy being apart from you in other circumstances op?

WhatanEmbarrasment · 14/01/2024 16:49

He is never really apart from me so I don’t know. I’m a lone parent so he is with me all the time other than school. There is no guarantee the other school will have spaces and I will have to look into that that is why we initially didn’t get the school because it had no space and I have another child at the school but in a younger year so it will mean also moving her away from her school and her friends as I won’t be doing 2 school runs.

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YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 14/01/2024 16:52

Just say no OP.

Araminta1003 · 14/01/2024 16:56

Has your DC got anxiety/separation anxiety? OCD? Any phobias? Have you seen the GP about it? Is there any trauma? It is not always SEN but there tends to be an underlying issue. He is clearly very worried about being in school?

roundtable · 14/01/2024 16:56

Sounds hard going. Makes me wonder if there's some separation anxiety going on. It not necessarily school he hates but being separated from you but he might not understand that to be able to articulate it. Does he do any clubs? Could be a starting point. Or inviting some friends round?

I'd be tempted to take him for a look round at the school down the road too.

Hopefully you'll be able to make small steps with him. Do you have some support? Someone to talk to? It helps to offload sometimes.

Araminta1003 · 14/01/2024 16:57

The most obvious anxiety would be that he is scared of you going away too if his father is not in the picture.

WhatanEmbarrasment · 14/01/2024 16:59

No he doesn’t think I will go anywhere I’m with him 24/7

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