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Husbands ex wife is a control freak

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HHN · 04/01/2024 22:04

So my husband has a daughter from a previous relationship when he split with his ex wife she stopped him from seeing his daughter. He took her to court and set up a contact agreement she broke this after about 6 weeks. This was 5 year ago absolutely cut all contact with my husband and he’s never seen his daughter since. Two weeks ago he received a text from her asking if they could meet up and have a chat! He’s reluctant as she’s a liar she tried to make out he was on drugs and abusive at court. He done everything to prove her wrong including drug tests. She just done and said all this to purely hurt him. She doesn’t stick to agreements and just loves to cause trouble. Despite this I’ve tried to persuade him to reply to the text but he’s just out right refusing he thinks she’s just trying to cause trouble as she used to. But I can’t help but think maybe his daughter has asked about him and wants to get to know him even though I’ve told him this is still doesn’t want to reply to the text. Should I just leave it now or try again to persuade him? I don’t want to get too involved but also don’t want him to regret not replying.

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Marblessolveeverything · 06/01/2024 10:06

That doesn't add up, five years he had the chance to self represent and while not able to see his first born went on to have more children?

I think you are being hoodwinked. Would you leave fighting for your child ? I know I wouldn't nor would their father.

JustanotherMNSlapperTwat · 06/01/2024 10:08

Onceuponaheartache · 06/01/2024 09:56

Loving the automatic assumption that the bloke is the issue here and that banks will throw money at people in loans for court...farcical.

My dp tried to fight to keep his kid but his exw did a literal moonlight flit and moved over 200 miles away to be with the guy she cheated with. She has been and is vile. I have seen the evidence and been party to her behaviour. Men are not always the issue.

@HHN tread carefully, it is likely that he will have built a strong wall to protect himself from emotions surrounding the situation. I would be supportive of his decision but point out carefully the pitfalls, I.e. her using it to spin it to their dd that he doesn't care etc. His silence may play into her hands as much as a response does.

Ultimately it is his decision, but I personally agree with you that he should respond. I would make sure all correspondence is written and any "meet up" is independently witnessed by someone not directly involved.

The thing is, this man is essentially opting out of parenting with his current partner, that's where I remembered her username from

So if he's opting out of parenting with his current children it's a fair guess that his "crazy ex" isn't the crazy one after all

Nonomono · 06/01/2024 10:08

So he took her to court initially and she broke the court order?

Were there no consequences for that?

Does he have proof that it was her who broke the court order?

If what he is saying is true then I understand his hesitation.

She sounds like the type of person to stop contact randomly again and that is a lot to deal with.

I would give him some time to digest it and to advise him to see what she wants and try and start a relationship with his DD, so she knows she is wanted and loved.

Many men will claim that the mother has stopped them from seeing their child, this does happen but it is extremely rare.
Why would anyone choose to be a single parent when they could get weekends to themselves etc.

So I’m always very suspicious when I hear about how a parent has refused contact, but it does happen sometimes.

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Coffeespill · 06/01/2024 10:08

HHN · 06/01/2024 09:50

You sound lovely thanks

We can't see who you are replying to

TheFormidableMrsC · 06/01/2024 10:09

I don't understand why he didn't enforce the order. I self represented multiple times in court, it's not difficult. I can't imagine missing that many years of my child's life. You can't force him to reply but I couldn't be with a man who didn't fight for his child.

Coffeespill · 06/01/2024 10:10

HHN · 06/01/2024 10:03

That’s alot of ‘what if she’ that’s the thing with her she thinks the world revolves around her and everyone should do what she wants.

Maybe her world and her kids come first to her. I don't think there's anything wrong with that but your DH needs to step up and find the money to go to court if he wants to see his kid. He needs to fight.

Flopsythebunny · 06/01/2024 10:15

HHN · 06/01/2024 08:52

He didn’t have the money to go back to court

He didn't need money. He could have represented himself like my son in law did.
Hi ex refused him visitation for a year after they split when the child was a baby. He is now 7 years old and its 50/50

Doyoumind · 06/01/2024 10:22

I've also self represented. If he had already been to court and through the process once it would have been easy to self represent. To give up after just 6 weeks of his ex not sticking to the order is pathetic. He just couldn't be bothered.

Doyoumind · 06/01/2024 10:23

And if he has three children living with him and a low wage, I bet his maintenance payments are so low as to be almost useless to his ex.

JustExistingNotLiving · 06/01/2024 10:33

Doyoumind · 06/01/2024 10:23

And if he has three children living with him and a low wage, I bet his maintenance payments are so low as to be almost useless to his ex.

And your suggestion when the NRP is on MW is??

Doyoumind · 06/01/2024 10:35

JustExistingNotLiving · 06/01/2024 10:33

And your suggestion when the NRP is on MW is??

OP made a big deal that he's been paying maintenance. My point is just that it's probably neither here nor there to his ex and she's been raising a child without any meaningful input from him for 5 years.

Beckafett · 06/01/2024 10:36

HHN · 06/01/2024 10:03

That’s alot of ‘what if she’ that’s the thing with her she thinks the world revolves around her and everyone should do what she wants.

But I thought there had been no contact for 5 years?

AutumnBride · 06/01/2024 10:42

Absolutely no way would I marry a man who was prepared to spend money on a wedding rather than going to court for access to his child, having dc with a man like this is crazy.

HHN · 06/01/2024 10:46

Doyoumind · 06/01/2024 10:35

OP made a big deal that he's been paying maintenance. My point is just that it's probably neither here nor there to his ex and she's been raising a child without any meaningful input from him for 5 years.

I didn’t make a big deal some one asked the question and I answered

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HHN · 06/01/2024 10:47

AutumnBride · 06/01/2024 10:42

Absolutely no way would I marry a man who was prepared to spend money on a wedding rather than going to court for access to his child, having dc with a man like this is crazy.

He didn’t pay for the wedding my dad did not that this has anything to do with the op

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HHN · 06/01/2024 10:47

Beckafett · 06/01/2024 10:36

But I thought there had been no contact for 5 years?

Yes that’s correct there hasn’t

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HHN · 06/01/2024 10:48

Doyoumind · 06/01/2024 10:23

And if he has three children living with him and a low wage, I bet his maintenance payments are so low as to be almost useless to his ex.

I wouldn’t say the amount is useless at all it’s a considerable amount of money payed every single month.

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HHN · 06/01/2024 10:51

Nonomono · 06/01/2024 10:08

So he took her to court initially and she broke the court order?

Were there no consequences for that?

Does he have proof that it was her who broke the court order?

If what he is saying is true then I understand his hesitation.

She sounds like the type of person to stop contact randomly again and that is a lot to deal with.

I would give him some time to digest it and to advise him to see what she wants and try and start a relationship with his DD, so she knows she is wanted and loved.

Many men will claim that the mother has stopped them from seeing their child, this does happen but it is extremely rare.
Why would anyone choose to be a single parent when they could get weekends to themselves etc.

So I’m always very suspicious when I hear about how a parent has refused contact, but it does happen sometimes.

She had stopped and started contact loads of times before going to court it wasn’t fair on anyone involved especially not the child who would always get upset when leaving her dad. Yes he has proof and I totally understand it’s a lot for him to go through For contact just to stop when ever she pleases his mental health took a big hit after going through the court process so I guess he’s probably scared of the effects it’s going to have on him if he gets to see her and then it’s stopped again. I still do really think he should respond to the email but I don’t want to put pressure on him to do so

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AutumnBride · 06/01/2024 10:52

@HHN He could have asked your dad to lend him the money for a solicitor, whoever paid for the wedding money has been spent in the last five years that could have been used for court action. Holidays, cars, furniture decorating, three more children to feed ....

It's relevant because it's a reflection of his priorities.

He's been feeding you a line, playing the victim.

HHN · 06/01/2024 10:53

Doyoumind · 06/01/2024 10:22

I've also self represented. If he had already been to court and through the process once it would have been easy to self represent. To give up after just 6 weeks of his ex not sticking to the order is pathetic. He just couldn't be bothered.

There’s only so much one person can take though I suppose. After years of starting and stopping contact he thought after going to court it would be final and she wouldn’t be able to stop but just 6 weeks later he was back to square one.

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Iwishiwasasilentnight · 06/01/2024 10:56

elizzza · 06/01/2024 07:39

I would leave him to make the decision. But I would also find it hard to be a relationship with someone who hadn’t seen his child for 5 years.

Me too. A man who can’t be bothered with a bit of hassle to see his child is not a man who is going to stick around through thick and thin.

Doyoumind · 06/01/2024 10:56

I don't believe anyone goes to the family courts without it taking a toll on their MH. That isn't an excuse not to keep on trying for contact. How can it be a worse toll on someone's MH than walking away from a child and having no contact in 5 years?

HHN · 06/01/2024 10:56

AutumnBride · 06/01/2024 10:52

@HHN He could have asked your dad to lend him the money for a solicitor, whoever paid for the wedding money has been spent in the last five years that could have been used for court action. Holidays, cars, furniture decorating, three more children to feed ....

It's relevant because it's a reflection of his priorities.

He's been feeding you a line, playing the victim.

So we put our life on hold so his ex can start and stop contact when ever she pleases and he has to repeatedly go back to court? He got himself into debt, his parents in to debt he spent a fortune on court to see his child where do you draw the line? He sends birthday & Christmas money and cards to his daughter every single year his ex accepts them but won’t allow him to have any contact. She just loves to play god with her child’s life

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HHN · 06/01/2024 10:57

Doyoumind · 06/01/2024 10:56

I don't believe anyone goes to the family courts without it taking a toll on their MH. That isn't an excuse not to keep on trying for contact. How can it be a worse toll on someone's MH than walking away from a child and having no contact in 5 years?

I’m not sure I’ve never personally had to go through that however I’ve see the effect it’s has

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HHN · 06/01/2024 10:58

Iwishiwasasilentnight · 06/01/2024 10:56

Me too. A man who can’t be bothered with a bit of hassle to see his child is not a man who is going to stick around through thick and thin.

It’s not just a bit of hassle though. You’ve got no idea of the things she’s said and put him through it’s all in black and white in a file in his wardrobe

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