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Hurt and confused someone has suggested there’s something wrong with my son?

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user1493889010 · 08/04/2022 10:49

Sorry this is probably a really superficial post but I am deeply hurt by a comment made by someone who is friends with me on my private social media account (someone I used to attend college with). I uploaded a collage of my baby son and amongst all the usual, lovely expected comments he posted:

‘Is something wrong with your son?’

After asking why they then commented:

‘Your son's eyes bulge like a child with Down's Syndrome.’

I replied saying there was nothing wrong with my son that he was healthy and happy and that his comment was rude and he replied:

‘Sorry, but that's why I asked if anything was wrong. Why would I pick on your son?
The fact is he looks like he has bulging eyes. That's why I asked whether anything was wrong whether it be Down's Syndrome or something else. I'm not a doctor so don't expect me to get the diagnosis correct from a few photos if there was something wrong.
Your eyes and your baby's eyes are very different. I don't know if it's just because he is a baby, not having any children of my own. But that isn't something I noticed in my neices and nephews when they were babies. Paediatricians must have a hard job dealing with parents who have something wrong with their child, but can’t admit it. Sorry’

Something that was intended to be such a positive experience sharing pictures of my son with my friends and family has turned out to be so negative. Why would he say this? Does my baby look like there’s something wrong with him? I feel very hurt and confused.

Here’s the collage I posted I have just added a picture in the middle of my eyes because of his comment about my eyes and my sons eyes.

Post edited by MNHQ to remove image as requested by OP

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user1493889010 · 08/04/2022 20:23

He suggested my son had something ‘wrong’ with him that his eyes were abnormal which didn’t sit right with me

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QuebecBagnet · 08/04/2022 20:24

@user1493889010

He had his eyes checked by a team of ophthalmologists in the neonatal unit over the period of a month or so he and was discharged with no eye problems. They actually told me his eyes were great so I don’t think it’s that. Maybe it’s just because he’s got my eyes and I have big wide eyes which are prominent.
Sounds like he’s fine and your “friend” is an idiot who can’t engage his brain before he types.
DigitusImpudicus · 08/04/2022 20:30

OP, You wrote: Does my baby look like there’s something wrong with him? I feel very hurt and confused. And then posted a collage of photos for people to comment on.

But yet you seem to know that your son is fine and that he has had many medical tests and observation.

You actually posted photos of your infant and asked if he looked like something was "wrong" with him. What exactly were you wanting from this thread?

You believe the doctors. Why not ask for moral support and leave your infant's appearance out of this? What if more posters had said that "something looks wrong" - how would you have felt?

This is all very peculiar.

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BoredZelda · 08/04/2022 20:36

@DigitusImpudicus I agree.

AnnaSW1 · 08/04/2022 20:38

@GreyTS I can also confirm as per the previous posters that FLK was very much used when I was a medic. This is only a few years ago. I'm in my late 30s. It wasn't used as an insult. It was used in a discreet way to flag up that a professional has already noted there might be an issue. Pre genetic testing I can see why this was a helpful thing to note.

Breakfastofmilk · 08/04/2022 22:04

It's still important to note because it can be a key part of pointing towards a diagnosis and enabling the right tests to be carried out, but clinicians say facial abnormalities or describe the specific abnormality seen. I honestly haven't heard FLK since I was a student 20 years ago. I do work in London, maybe other parts of the country are further behind on this.

user1493889010 · 09/04/2022 12:47

Well I would have felt awful but I was already feeling awful. I chose to ask a question here because of the general demographic (a group of women I view as more honest, trustworthy and compassionate than any other forum which I wouldn’t have been able to post a question like this.

I was in absolute shock. What is peculiar and incredibly hurtful is being asked what’s wrong with your baby when there isn’t anything!

Your automatic reaction is deep hurt and you question why someone would ask that? You question why thats the first thought someone has when they looked at your child was what’s wrong with them especially as you have been told he’s a healthy baby.

I wondered why the man would have made those comments and the only way for anyone to make that assessment was by looking at what I posted.

Your comment sounds suspicious and conspiratorial and quite frankly unhelpful. I can assure you when someone makes a nasty comment about your baby as a new mum you panic and reach out for support and understanding.

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Gwenhwyfar · 09/04/2022 13:31

"There is a an actual medical explanation for the possibility that that woman can 'smell' Parkinson's. It's not some sort of psychic ability."

It's not a possibility that she can smell it. She has been proven right in controlled tests. Even when she seemed to be wrong with one person that person later developed it. And I never said she was psychic! (I presume just a sensitive sense of smell).

DigitusImpudicus · 09/04/2022 18:20

Your comment sounds suspicious and conspiratorial and quite frankly unhelpful.

My comment wasn't intended to be helpful. I was reflecting on the thread.

I was wondering why you chose to potentially compound your distress by repeating the same behaviour that had caused the confusion and distress in the first place - except this time you upped the ante considerably by posting photos of your child on a public multi-national forum as opposed to your own private FB account. And then asked if he looked "wrong"

I can assure you when someone makes a nasty comment about your baby as a new mum you panic and reach out for support and understanding.

I can categorically assure you that if I thought that my newborn baby had a medical issue I would never ever post multiple photos of him on a website that has 8 million viewers per month asking if something looked "wrong." That would be the absolute furthest action from my mind and I doubt if I am alone in that sentiment.

MN isn't an obscure quiet supportive corner of the internet.

user1493889010 · 10/04/2022 02:55

Well I think I’ve explained my reasoning in my last message. Sometimes when you’re in shock you may not always act in the best way. It was posted very quickly after I received the nasty messages. I was in shock, adrenaline was surging through my body, my eyes were stinging. Within ten minutes of posting the pictures I realised my error in judgement and had them taken down. We all make mistakes, sometimes we act on emotion or clouded judgment.

I was confused and hurt and I wanted to understand why someone would say my ‘son’ looked ‘wrong’. Sometimes close friends and family members are not always the best people to ask as they may be biased or not want to upset you. It was comforting to hear from other mothers (people who have never met me or have any loyalty towards me) that the comments were purely malicious. So overall it was a really positive and anxiety settling experience.

He has no medical issues as I’ve explained throughout the thread. I’ve never looked at him and thought he looked ‘wrong’ just a beautiful baby boy. Which is why this guys horrible comments completely threw me.

I suppose I also wanted to share my horror and upset with other mothers who would be able to empathise with how I was feeling. I found the general experience very supportive and healing.

I’m not sure what you’re getting from your messages. The purpose of the thread was support. Your comments are worded quite harshly and judgementally. I suppose for some people placing negative judgement upon others makes them feel superior or better about themselves.

I personally wouldn’t rub salt in the wound with someone who was clearly distressed as I think that’s unkind. But everyone is different and if it makes you feel good at least more than one person has got a positive experience from this thread. Overall, I am greatly humbled by the compassion and support offered.

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user1493889010 · 10/04/2022 03:03

Thank you

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mathanxiety · 10/04/2022 03:15

I'm glad you blocked this horrible man.

From the way he kept on and on and on like a human tank, I would say he's one of those people who get a thrill from pissing on other people's chips, and I wonder if he's still in contact with the parents of the nieces and nephews he mentioned.

You're feeling rattled because you had a brush with someone who is pretty disturbed.

Coyoacan · 10/04/2022 03:42

I'm just sorry I didn't open up this thread before you deleted the photo. I love photos of big-eyed babies.

Im sorry you had that upset, OP.

user1493889010 · 10/04/2022 04:16

Thank you so much. So am I! Looking at the situation today with a clear head and taking into account all these lovely comments. I think he may have a sadistic streak.

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user1493889010 · 10/04/2022 04:19

Thank you so much! I was talking to my family about the situation today and they just said he has lovely big eyes. My mother in law said he looks like a real life Tommy from the Rugrats. I know his big eyes stand out because that’s usually what people notice first. I’m sure he will grow into them but they are very cute. I think this man was just being an arse!

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Sillymummies123 · 10/04/2022 07:08

Is the man a friend? If so, if you were honest with yourself, has he previously been derisive of you? Sometimes, abusive people don't like their subjects being happy because it's reduces their reliance on the relationship - like someone getting ideas above their station.

If he's not a close friend ignore the above and assume he's a freak

user1493889010 · 10/04/2022 12:48

He was a friend/connection on my social media he was just a casual acquaintance from over ten years ago when I was at college. I’d forgotten I even had him as a friend. The day it happened I blocked him and deleted everyone who isn’t a close friend, current work colleague and family member. I will assume he’s an arse!

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DigitusImpudicus · 10/04/2022 14:05

Sometimes when you’re in shock you may not always act in the best way. It was posted very quickly after I received the nasty messages. Within ten minutes of posting the pictures I realised my error in judgement and had them taken down. We all make mistakes, sometimes we act on emotion or clouded judgment.

Yes, so you agree that you made an error in judgement in posting photos of your infant on a nation-wide website and soliciting questions about his appearance. We seem to be in agreement. And yes, a couple of people told you to request that the photos be taken down, so you did.

It was comforting to hear from other mothers (people who have never met me or have any loyalty towards me) that the comments were purely malicious. So overall it was a really positive and anxiety settling experience.

When someone did say: OP, I had a look at the photos and at first I thought your friend was being ridiculous. When I zoomed the photos, I can see a bit of what your friend might be seeing. It is worth satisfying yourself that your baby does not have an underlying condition. This is not a dig at your baby, who I think is gorgeous. I can see a hint of something.

You replied: What did you notice about my son when you’re looked at the photos that makes you think there may be an issue with him?
Further asking for someone to tell you what was unusual about your son’s appearance!

But that poster was summarily dismissed because you already KNEW that your child is healthy because he has had so many tests. That poster was cautiously answering the very question that you had solicited.

I found the general experience very supportive and healing.
Yes, because it is unlikely that on MUMSNET anyone was going to make negative comments about an infant’s appearance are they? Even though that was what you were asking.

I’m not sure what you’re getting from your messages. The purpose of the thread was support. Your comments are worded quite harshly and judgementally. I suppose for some people placing negative judgement upon others makes them feel superior or better about themselves.
I’m unpicking this thread and this conversation because I am finding it interesting. That’s about all. But you’ve characterised my comments as suspicious and conspiratorial when all I did was summarise the thread and say that it was peculiar. How did I negatively judge you? By pondering why you would risk exacerbating your already confused state by posting photos of your son on a multi-national website and asking questions about his appearance?

Yes, I questioned your decision and you apparently agree with me. It doesn’t make me feel superior to point out that it is questionable that an infant’s photos were posted for millions of people to gawk at, sorry, it just doesn’t.

I personally wouldn’t rub salt in the wound with someone who was clearly distressed as I think that’s unkind. But everyone is different and if it makes you feel good at least more than one person has got a positive experience from this thread.

This is obviously a disingenuous reply. I have tried to keep my comments to the facts of the thread as they evolved and yet you think that I am deriving some satisfaction from being “unkind” which is bizarre. Exactly what have I written that is unkind, harsh, conspiratorial, and suspicious when I was pointing out the bloody obvious?

But since, in your own words, you have found this experience to be "supportive and healing" then that is good because that was, as you have said, your motive in posting your original post.

LazyJayne · 10/04/2022 17:50

Time to go outside for some nice fresh air @DigitusImpudicus

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