Social services removed children

[Luluhere]

Hi my children was removed from me 12 years ago
I’m now with a new partner would they be involved if I was to have another I’m 42 years old so lot more mature and changed my life all my children are over 18 now and support our decision to try for another baby

Sadly now ss can remove children on very little basis
We all like to think it’s a last resort but often it’s the first thought
‘Risk of future emotional harm ‘ that is the problem a term used widely and can be used to remove children when NO harm has even happened yet just on the notion that it might but they can’t specify even when or how and parents are silenced through the family courts
Many many parents of children with asd or eds , Me ask arfid allergies etc are being absolutely destroyed
It’s time to take the blinkers off

@BumpOnWheels

Thank you for your comment. I am sorry you have been in these situations.
Social workers need to open their eyes

@flashylamp your point beng? I meant that of course (I hope) individual social workers don't get commission, but councils/teams do get funding based on the amount of children in their care.

*being

My point?

Supposedly

according to what is generally assumed or believed (often used to indicate that the speaker doubts the truth of the statement).

Practically

virtually, almost

My point is neither of those words mean they do. So what was your point?

[quote me4real]@flashylamp your point beng? I meant that of course (I hope) individual social workers don't get commission, but councils/teams do get funding based on the amount of children in their care.[/quote]
Getting funding for children in the care of the LA and 'getting money for each child they take off parents' are 2 very very different things.

@Honeybobbin the irony is that you are only in work because of parents whose children have ended up in care. Interesting way of looking at it, don't you think? Bad parents keep you in biscuits.

I don't understand your point here. By the same token, the police owe their jobs to criminals. So?

[quote ZoeCM]**@Honeybobbin the irony is that you are only in work because of parents whose children have ended up in care. Interesting way of looking at it, don't you think? Bad parents keep you in biscuits.

I don't understand your point here. By the same token, the police owe their jobs to criminals. So?[/quote]
And we need cancer and illness to keep doctors in jobs.

[quote me4real]@flashylamp your point beng? I meant that of course (I hope) individual social workers don't get commission, but councils/teams do get funding based on the amount of children in their care.[/quote]
Well of course they get funding for the children in their care, otherwise how would they care for them! It's incredibly expensive to provide full time care for a child. It is absolutely not done lightly.

@PottyTrainingissues

Sadly now ss can remove children on very little basis We all like to think it’s a last resort but often it’s the first thought ‘Risk of future emotional harm ‘ that is the problem a term used widely and can be used to remove children when NO harm has even happened yet just on the notion that it might but they can’t specify even when or how and parents are silenced through the family courts Many many parents of children with asd or eds , Me ask arfid allergies etc are being absolutely destroyed It’s time to take the blinkers off

Absolute fucking bollocks!!! This post should be deleted for scare mongering!!!

Who do you think looks after kids that have been removed? It costs the government hundreds of thousands so they aren’t doing it for financial gain!

They remove kids because the parents can’t be trusted to put the kids needs over their own. Simples.

Those that disagree with this, either don’t know the full story of a particular set of circumstances (ie their best friends child taken away by SS - because she wore pink shoes 🙄🥱 yeah course....)

Or because they’re absolutely dense as hell and think that SS kidnapp kids for fun.

Absolute sheer ignorance....... mind blowing

@Livelovebehappy

Not sure why so many people on here are telling OP to go for it, when they don’t know why the children were removed, and the OP hasn’t been back to volunteer the information. Would you still be saying the same if OP for example had been physically or mentally abusive towards her DC?

Exactly-those ‘supporters’ are great for OP..... not sure much for the baby.... because there’s no other info to go on.

No point in saying, it will work out brilliant, just draw a line under your efforts with your last kids, have some more 🙄🙄 ffs!!!!!! it’s not that easy. As you say, certain things are worse that others.

@TableFlowerss

Sadly not bollocks. Look up FII
Parents are accused. Parents who push for EHCP or inclusion for other things

I can understand how you’d think that way though. I actually was the same thought like you that there’s ‘no smoke without fire ‘
I was very wrong and it is a big problem
Look up FII look up the ‘red flags’
Parents can’t even complain as that goes against them
Schools would rather do safeguarding referrals than pay for support
Mothers of babies with genuine feeding issues are accused of this even when the issues continue after removal
Parents of asd children who mask in school are accused of exaggerating and these children are removed there is info out there it’s risk of future emotional harm that is used it’s not bollocks or scaremongering but something SEN parents have to be aware of

@PottyTrainingissues

Sadly now ss can remove children on very little basis We all like to think it’s a last resort but often it’s the first thought ‘Risk of future emotional harm ‘ that is the problem a term used widely and can be used to remove children when NO harm has even happened yet just on the notion that it might but they can’t specify even when or how and parents are silenced through the family courts Many many parents of children with asd or eds , Me ask arfid allergies etc are being absolutely destroyed It’s time to take the blinkers off

SS cant remove remove children from a home. They can the police to remove them in an emergency for up to 48 hours and they applies to the court to ask a judge to decide if a child should be removed from a home.

As a teacher I’ve seen children left in home where there is abuse and neglect. Sometimes I think the threshold is too high.

Yes police protection powers are often utilised in these cases and it’s rare for the children to be returned once the time has passed
Often children are removed in hospital and parent/s arrested at the same time

Often thought you will find parents pressured / threatened and coerced into signing a section 20

I do have to add that on the flip side I’m fully aware there are cases where ss need to be involved, where children do need to be removed. It’s a hard job.
People do need the truth though it’s not all without mistakes nothing is. What I’ve written about does happen and wrongful removal due to the blanket term risk of future harm (often when no harm has taken place at all) just the risk it might is a justified reason to investigate and remove

For all those cases though we have genuine ones where removal is the best thing.
No idea in OPs case though so I’m speculating if we don’t know what happened we can’t judge

I havent given an opinion on this this yet as i was waiting for op to give us some idea as to why her children were removed from her. As this hasn't happened i am assuming it was quite serious "events" that led to them being removed, so i would have to assume trying for another baby would be a very bad idea.

@PottyTrainingissues

Often thought you will find parents pressured / threatened and coerced into signing a section 20

And how,’ah I ask, do you know this?

@PottyTrainingissues

Often thought you will find parents pressured / threatened and coerced into signing a section 20

Yes, this is what happened to me.

I was lead to believe that my best chance of getting my baby home in the future was to sign the section 20 allowing them to remove him from the hospital 2 days post birth, failure to sign that would be noted as me not acknowledging risk and not cooperating.

I signed it and did what I could to show them I could be worked with, which included giving up my home and moving into a women's refuge of my own volition to show I was prepared to leave my abuser (which was never suggested by them, by the way)

speak to your GP op