May Babies... part 6! (keep up you April Mums... pfft!)

[GeorginaA]

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cor, have fun twiglett. hopefully your dd won't even wake. can't wait to be able to go out safe in the knowledge that she's going to sleep through and i'll not return home to a screaming babe. bless

what are all your milk/solid schedules? the hv has told me to give a bf when she wakes, then breakfast solids at say 9, solids THEN bf at 1, solids THEN bf at 5, then bf at bed. i'm not too comfortable with her having solids then bf each time as i am still thinking that solids shouldn't replace the milk feeds ifswim and i know that she wont take much after a solid meal. also, shouldnt she be having a bf between meals? or is 4 hours between, with nothing, except perhaps a bit of water, ok? i think i might do bf then solids for one meal then the other way round for tea. what you do anyway? pleeeeease?

yes i think i may have shown the movie b4 twiglett, although i know i def posted a pic. anyway, was just testing to see if i could get the link to work anyway, before moving onto bigger things in a spielberg type way.

Hi everyone

Anyone any idea how to get chrcole stains out of carpet? Water and charcol mixed does not a happy carpet make. It's not a huuuuge stain, but it is proving rather difficult to shift.
Kiera has started blowing raspberrys! dp came to wake me yesterday proudly exclaiming he had had his first ever "conversation" with her then demonstrated. He made a "thrrp" noise and she copied him! he said he'd been doing it for 10 minutes, it was hilarious

Libb-Snap! kiera is dp, it is unbeleivable! people look at her and go "oooh isn't she gorgeous, ooh look at her eyes....oooh she doesn't look like you does she?" or "ooh you can tell she's her fathers daughter"

Susi- Kiera is also extremly ticklish, especialy under her arms and she won't even let me touch her neck! I don't think she likes being tickled though, she kind of half laughs half objects.
We're planning another rehersal christmas dinner with kiera substiute for the weekend-i should sell tickets, it probably is hysterical to watch
Shock much better today thank you, no bad dreams last night! My knee is still out of action unfortunatly and moving is painful, i feel about 80 years old! How is your arm? pulled muscels are horrible.

Egypt- CC is nasty isn't it? We've never had problems with nights, but i did have to do it for about a week in the day time a while ago. Heartbreaking, i just stood in the conservetory and watched her through the windows for the little morning nap, and every time i went in to reassure her she broke into this huge smile, then she realised i was going away again and starting crying. God i felt awful. The same for the usptairs two hour nap. If it makes you feel any better though it really does work, and it sounds like your making progress already, so well done.

Linnet-awww shame you can't make our 26th November meet up, but we will all meet next may hopefully!

Spots- lol at your cable reconecction story, and your sigorney weaver description

Judd- i'm sure you will receive much virtual love and support

Take care everyone
xxxxx

Egypt, I am looking forward to the Trilogy!

E - we do weetabix and milk at 7.30, food at 12.00 but no milk because its a protein meal (mat, fish, lentils) and milk inhibits absorption of iron so give water in cup), milk at 2.30pm, tea (pasta & sauce type carb meal) at 5pm with water, then milk at 6.30 before bedtime. That is very GF though but seems to make sense and DS is happy with it. See what others say as well though.

GeorginaA, couldn't help but notice on another thread that you met DH on the 5th November! all the best couples meet then, I matchmade my two friends on that night and they are talking marriage now - woohoo, what hat shall I buy? To be fair it was blatant that it would work for them as they are practically each other IYSWIM. They are the Ms Paltrow and Mr Martin of my world. And I guess I am better at relationships that don't involve me!

I really hope you had a lovely anniversary xxxx

Egypt - my message is of course from 6 months onwards coz it has inclusion of meat/feish/lentils. I think at 6 months solids are meant to take over as main providers of nutrition.

I think I mean fish!

that's a good question
we just changed our routine and it's not really working
ds gets 7am 8oz / 11am 6oz / 1.30pm 3spoonfull meat+4cubes veggies and big joghurt / 4.00 3spoonfull meat+veggies and rusk with fruitpuree and small joghurt / meant to have 8oz at 7pm - but falls asleep at 6! try to get milk in before he goes to bed, but takes only 2-3oz
so you see; doesn't really work!!!
he loves his solids and doesn't really bother with milk - am i supposed to recude solids? so he drinks more milk?
but i thought he should eat more and more solids and finally stop drinking milk ...
very confusing

anyways, he's having his evening exersice atm!
in his doorbouncer and he is bounding like mad!
he would jump and jump just like the duracel rabbit

EUREKA! Butternut squash... he likes butternut squash. Of course, it stains horribly...

Writing isn't going - relatives down for the weekend for ds2's naming ceremony. All chaos, back to chat after the weekend

oo have a lovely ceremony georgina.

yes, i think if they cut out their own milk feeds after 6 months that's fine and you're right susi, they should reduce milk and increase solids. but at the mo i want to make sure dd gets her milk. today was ok. she demanded milk between feeds so i gave it. wonder if that's because she had just one feed in the night and is making up her intake in day. she also ate lunch and dinner well with a desert.

did cc again tonight. she took 25 mins this time instead of 30. spose its progress. hate it. will she hate me forever?

No she won't. We used to ignore DD when she cried (obviously not if she was in pain,etc. etc.etc)....and she thinks I'm brilliant! You are giving her (and you) the gift of continuous, unbroken sleep - short term pain, long term gain.

thanks judd, you are so right....because she slept...........................................

SEVEN THIRTY PM UNTIL SEVEN AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is a day to remember

(she was grumbling a bit at 4.30 - funnily enough when i fed her last night - but fell asleep again )

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

off to norwich, speak soon xxxxxx

Think DD may be showing signs of crawling. This week shes started to get up on her hands and knees and starts rocking back and forth on her knees.
WEve had a bad couple of nights. Last night she woke at 11pm and didnt want a feed but then wouldnt go to sleep until 3.30 this morning. At 11 we tried feeding, rocking and cuddling but nothing worked so we put her in the cot but she cried on and off until 2.30 when I gave up listening to her and brought her into bed. The problem is ive got dp telling me off for bringing her into bed but at 2am all I want is some sleep and im desperate. On thursday night she was the same woke at 11 and I fed her then again at 1.30 and then she woke at 3.30 but didnt want a feed so again I brought her inbto bed. DP can sleep through her crying but I cant which means that im awake all night listening to her. On average she is still waking at 11 and 5 for a feed which means that at 7am she isnt the slightest bit hungry and doesnt want a breast feed before I go to work. Shes also stopped wanting the breast when I get home but will happily drink a bottle. Not sure if she is weaning herself off the breast I feel quite if thats the case a) because I want to at least feed until 6 months and b)I enjoy doing it and hoped to contine feeding in the evening for a lot longer.
Egypt know how you feel re the milk. During the day DD has nothing at 7am and then 11am has 4 ozs with solids at 2.30 she has 7ozs. Then she has a small breast feed at 6-7pm, 11pm and 5am. Im sure shes drinking more at night than during the day. Im hoping that once shes 6months I can start giving protein at lunch which may fill her up in the day. I think im also going to give her formula at 5am but dilute it slightly. I just read that in the GF book.
Spots- That poor little mouse I hope you feel suitably guilty. I still have flashbacks of the mouse in the gren mile.
Egypt- i think were going to have to do cc at some point. i keep putting it off though. im glad it didnt seem too bad. you have given me hope. maybe i will give it a go now. and big for a full nights sleep

Kbaby - DD fluctuates between 1 and 2 feeds in the night and if she has two she's not hungry in the morning. I'm thinking about stopping it soon but she was poorly yesterday (fine in herself but projectile vomiting and refusing her bottle but taking her solids) so now's not really the time.

DD's pattern is:
6.30 am breastfeed
7.30 - 8 am baby porridge and 1 cube prunes
11 am 6 oz formula (takes 4 generally)
12.30 pm 4/5 cubes veg, 1 small yoghurt
4pm 6 oz formula (again takes about 4)
6 pm 4 cubes veg, 4 cubes fruit
7.15 pm breastfeed (and bed).

Then she feeds either once or twice in the night. I only introduced the yoghurt recently, before that she was having fruit at lunchtime as well. I'm also a bit concerned that she is constipated again.

We moved her cot into her own bedroom this morning and our bedroom looks huge now. But I will miss her little smiling face in a morning.

Egypt I found it took about 3 days for my milk to settle down when I went back to work and stopped daytime feeds which should be about the same length of time as you're going between night time feeds. But even now I put a bra on in the morning (stopped wearing nursing bras) and it fits but by the time I get home from work I am bursting out of it - but I'm not uncomfortable.

We still do bf before all food.
Our day is
Milk 7am(if she takes any)
7.30 3 teaspoons rusk and milk. 1 cube of fruit
11.30 4 ozs milk and 2 cubes potato 2 swede 1 carrot/beans
2.30 6 ozs milk
5.00 1 ozs milk- to last her until I get home from work
7.30-7.00 breastfeed and then 2cubes baby rice 2 cubes fruit and then breastfeed again
And then a few feeds at night.

egypt,
I just tried cat'ing you for all the details about your CC. Your profile didnt accept contacts. Would you mind cating me.
Thanks

Egypt - congrats on your night! Hope that that's the way ahead from now on....

WOW Egypt... what a turnaround!! bloody hell, so quick! Congratulations on your success... I would quite like more details too, if you're CAT'ing Kbaby. Do you still have my email address?

Feel a little depressed after reading all your schedules. DD still breastfeeds totally on demand, which means very often now that she is bigger, and is seemimg rather averse to solids. She will take some after a breastfeed, like you suggested Prufrock, but generally it's as if she's more keen to get it out the way so that she can get on with the 'real thing'. If she's tired she'll kick up a real stink if you try and offer solids. Also, she prefers to feed on your knee, again kicking up a stink if you put her in a chair, so it's really messy. She tugs at my top and puts fistfuls if it in her carrotty mouth. On the whole, weaning is not fun for any of us at the moment. We are a very long way from anything like 3 meals a day.

spots and kbaby, don't know why my cat'ing isnt working but will email you. am at my parents anyway so will send you my hotmail address. think that may be the one mumsnet have anyway. should work if i tell you it in cat.

fingers crossed for tonight. she went down ok. screamed for about 20 secs and i thought 'oh hell' but that was it. only been about 40 mins though so we'll see. i daresay not being at home may be a negative.

seems like we are similar in foods/milk. dd did want more bf between solids today, but i'm assuming its because she had nothing all night. makes sense i spose. felt more fulfilling though. had

bf at 7
riceraspberriespear at 8
bf at 11
large cube of brocolli and large cube of parsnip at 1. no bf - was in little chef and actually forgot!
bf at 3.30
2 large cubes of swede and milk at 5.30 with large bf
bf at 6.45

I have to tell you what dd2 did yesterday morning. Dh was watching some programme on a Discovery channel about wildlife. And the guy on the show was out in the wild calling out to wolves and the wolves started answering back. So dd2 is sitting in her bouncy chair and the wolves are howling on the tv and she turns to me with this big pouting lip and really sad eyes and starts to cry because she was frightened of the noise the wolves were making! It was so cute and funny but such a shame for poor dd2 at the same time. I will admit dh and I had a giggle at dd2's expense. WE told dd1 about it on the way home from school and then when we were at my ganny's later that night we were telling her and dd1 made the howling noise of the wolves and dd2 looked all scared and worried and started crying again, lol. I know I'm a terrible mother laughing at my poor little baby but it's not something I thought would affect her so young.

Dd2 had 3 solid meals yesterday and only 3 bottles of milk. She did the same again today. She slept through last night so I'm wondering if she'll do the same again tonight. I'm worried that she's to young to have cut out another bottle but she doesn't seem to bothered and she's not going to waste away to nothing as my granny said. She'll be exactly 6 months old next Sunday, 21st,will intoduce protein then.

Typical day for us is
7am bottle of milk sometimes drinks all 7 oz sometimes only 5 oz.
8am breakfast rice stuff.
11am bottle again sometimes 7oz sometimes 5oz.
12pm solids, yesterday it was sweet potato and broccoli went down very well, followed by a yogurt.
Tried her with a bottle at 2.30pm but she wouldn't take it.
4.30pm/5pm more solids and a yogurt. followed by a bottle.
Bed at 7.45pm.

If she's eating three lots of solids a day then she should be ok to drop a feed shouldn't she? She's not very keen on drinking water but she doesn't seem dehydrated during the day so I guess I shouldn't worry too much at the moment.

SusiS I'm in Scotland where it is really really cold. There was snow north of us yesterday and we can feel the difference in temperature.

Cat, Sorry to hear about your fire, glad to hear that you and dd are ok though. How is your knee now?

Hope everyone else is doing ok.
bye for now

Libb, of course the email machine is the answer. Yes Please I would love a copy!

Where did you live in Scotland?

And HAPPY HALF BIRTHDAY to Reuben! Laurie of course is a half today too.

we had a fairly good night, in part inspired by you Egypt: I held back on the 3am feed and gave water. She settled, unsettled then settled again without too much distress.So although she woke at 11.30, 12.30 and 3 she only had a feed once. That is progress! I am not sure about her going all night when the solids are going so badly - may start thread.

DH ill with orrible cough and eyes like pee holes in the snow... not going to be a very relaxing sunday I fear...

oh libb, sorry. i am so stupid. yes please would love a copy EMAILED! didnt think of that. dum de dum

glad you had a better night spots. dd did ok again. she went through until 3.45 then woke with a vengence. gave her water but 45 mins later she was still screaming for food. sure it must have been hunger as the time i gave her water 2 nights ago (midnight) she went back to sleep. bless her. can't do cc in the early hours. surely she was hungry, she'd gone 9 hours! anyway, fed her. dont think this counts as giving in does it? hope not. no, not if she's hungry. aaaaanyway, reasoning to myself. she tnen woke weirdly half an hour later and my mum went in and stroked her face and hand and gave her a comforter toy. she immediately went quiet and fell asleep. strange. must be mum's affect. she woke at 8.

dd has started doing lovely chatting sounds. she has discovered her tongue and always sticks it out as she talks.bless.

that is so sweet linnet. i know what you mean about feeling cruel but finding it funny too. a couple of weeks ago when dd was in her door bouncer, i decided to mimick her. i walked and bounced with riverdance style wobbly legs and she went from laughing to a serious face and then pouted and screamed.! so funny but not. i went and cheered her up again and did the same just to see if that was what she was really crying at and yes. bless. she must've thought mummy's legs had gone wrong.

spots and kbaby have cat'd you. not sure i can offer much advice but will tell you in boringly great detail if you like. x

Egypt don't think DD's understand about all or nothing as much as we do. Reckon the best progress is when you have reasons for doing what you'r e doing, and stuff like controlled crying best implemented with sensitivity! or maybe that's exactly not the point... but finds favour with me.

Georgina how was the naming ceremony? want to know all about it if you can be arsed.