May babies no. 5 - crikey!

[libb]

Wouldn't we all be a nightmare on a rare ladies only night out?!

hahaha don't you just love your little ones!!! - although he kept me awake almost all night you can't be mad at them at all!!! - and he just made me laugh so hard!!! he was lying on his mat while i was getting a cup of tea. then i heard him getting annoyed though i went to see what was wrong - well, he rolled on his tummy again (!), but this time he vomited too and guess what - face right into it!!! aarrgghh - when i turned him back he was just laughing at me and thought it was really funny!!!!

bless him

georgina, sounds odd and horrid! let us know what it is. very strange. sounds like an allergy yes.

GEORGINA hope you get the rash sorted. I used to get a heat rash in the summer and would want to scratch my skin off it itched so much.

Susi, I was thinking of getting a comforter that would have my smell on. A friend suggested putting a muslin in the cot with her but I dont know at what age its safe to have a loose blanket in the cot. I have visions of her getting it wrapped around her head.

Egypt your right it isnt the getting to sleep bit thats the problem its the staying asleep bit. She will fall asleep if I feed her or cuddle her and then i can put her in the cot as long as shes asleep. If shes just drowsy she wakes up and is wide awake and will play. This morning for example she was getting tired so I fed her and then held her until she fell asleep I then laid her in her cot and she woke up but rolled on to her belly and closed her eyes. I sneaked out but by the time I came downstairs I could hear her talking. I thought i would leave her but after 30 mins she started to grizzle, i went back upstairs and rubbed her back etc but she carried on crying. In the end I took her out of the cot but by then she was overtired and so cried and fought sleep. She eventually nodded off and shes in bed now. The main problem is the fact that she wont stay asleep longer than 30 mins in the day. When I go up to get her she is wide awake and doesnt seem to want to go back to sleep. At night its slightly different in that she sleeps for 1hr and then wakes crying but is still tired and will fall asleep on my lap but not back in the cot. She will eventually stay asleep in the cot at around 10ish.
I dont mind helping her go to sleep as long as she slept longer as she obv needs it. Although ideally it would be excellant if she just learnt to go to sleep herself in the cot.

Egypt just realised i waffled in my last message so heres a shortened version.
Yes she has a dummy but if she loses it just sucks her thumb instead. We have blackout blinds but its not completly dark. No matter how sleepy she is the minute I lay her in the cot she is wide awake and will then just play instead of nodding off. The only way I can get her to sleep in it is by putting her in when she is asleep.

Spots welcome home. It is cold up here isn't it I wonder if it's going to be a bad winter, hoping for some snow at least this year so dd1 can build a snowman, didn't have enough to do one last winter. But at the same time I hate having to walk to work in the snow, just can't please me.

Was it cold in London?

I'm planning our holiday. flights are booked and I've made lists of everything we need to take, then adding about 10 things a day that I realise I've forgotten to add. Spent the last wee while making a list of places we want to go and see, checking them out on the internet etc. The main thing we're doing is going to Chessington world of adventures. We took dd1 to Legoland last year and she loved it, especially the rollercoaster so she wants to go to another theme park this year. She wants to go back to Legoland but I said we'd maybe go to a different one. Haven't told her that we're definitely going as she'd go on and on about it until we actually go.
Been listing all the museums as well, we always go to museums but we never manage to see them all so we go back every year to do the bits that we missed the first time.
I'm getting quite excited now.

dd2 went to bed last night at 7pm. She had her bath then I got her dressed and popped her in the cot so I could bath dd1. Dd2 fell asleep but I thought that's ok she's due her last bottle she'll wake up for it then I'll put her back to bed. But she slept right through until 6am this morning! shock horror. She's napping just now and she's been asleep for an hour and a half, so it looks like this is going to be her long nap of the day, a bit early but still. She's going for her last dtap and hib jag today. Taking dh with me again today to see if she does the same as last time and doesn't cry, bet she screams though.

Georgina sorry to hear about your rash. What did the dr say? Hope it goes away soon.

Oh Georgina, hope you come back with something useful from the doc.

Well, the weekend wasn't too bad - DS loves Nanny and Grandad, has managed to re-arrange his routine to going down early and waking early (I think I preferred the late evening and late morning wake up one!) and he has been staring at DP with well contained glee since we arrived back home.

I am seriously panicking about the bottle business now - I have two weeks to get him to take it. My neighbour is going to take him occasionally and have a go so that may help, DP is going to learn patience and I am leaving the building! On top of this, we also have the house being re-wired so that will be a disruption. Oh lordy.

In tears. Don't know what to do.

It's some sort of allergic reaction - probably delayed response to sun. Have been given antihystamine and hydrocortisone cream but have just taken an antihystamine then looked it up on the internet (yes, wrong way round I know) and it says it shouldn't be used while breastfeeding because it goes into the milk.

Absolutely terrified now and don't know what to do. Ds2 not due for a feed now until 2.30pm.

Georgina - could you post an eye-catching urgent message to see if you get any knowledgeable responses? And also ring your surgery and see if the doctor can help you/ring you back if he is engaged? I really hope you get it sorted out - I'll be think about you and am sorry I can't help any more.
KBaby - I've given DS a quarter of a muslin in his cot with him coz I was worried a whole one would be too big. Just cut it up! He likes snuffling in it before he sleeps. DD had a whole one at about 7 months I think.
Right, I'm off. Trying not to look at MN too much these days because I worry myself overreading IYSWIM ! (although DH is away tonight so I will probably be back in need of chitchat!)

I have done and the doctor has also called back. Says that it's not licensed for use in breastfeeding but it's been used a long time and no evidence of harm. So I guess use sparingly. Am feeling a lot better now - the itch has subsided a little, so feeling less fraught!

G. you can take some antih's while b'feeding. I get horrible hives in contact with some things, and checked ages ago to find out which. If it's hives, then all my sympathy. there's no describing the utter horribleness of chronic itching. But it will go away soon. I have also found calamine lotion, cool baths and Lanacane cream soothing.

Think Piriton's ok.

Where was your holiday anyway? Let's talk about happy things to take your mind off scratching!

georgina: try doctor! i had to be on antibiotics when DS was 1 weeks old. and they gave me something that wouldn't harm him since i was bf. i know, it's always difficult - DS always had a (whole)muslin for sleeping; it somehow soothes him and he always borrows into it! - kbaby: maybe try not to let her fall asleep while you are holding her! doesn't always work with DS (but most times!) - i remember when he was a 1month old i wanted to help him to go to sleep on his own. more for his sake though he doesn't have to cry and cry for someone to come and help him go off again. i picked a time when i knew he was tired! i cuddled him and told him to put him down for a nap and when he is rested he can call me and i'll pick him up and we'll play more - i know sounds silly but who knows? maybe it does the trick - anyways: i put him down, stroke his head and leave, not far though! wait for cry and go back, stroke his head (or tummy or back) and shhhhh him. it does help avoiding eyecontact!!! maybe look at nose or tummy - when he's quiet again - leave .. and so on - eventually he fell asleep and it was better every time. now i maybe go in once or twice if at all. - i know, the beginning is hard but it's much easier for him and for me too! - oh when i hear him crying later i listen to the cry. if he is just whipering or whinging, wait a bit until it really gets distressed. then sure go in. but if not, do wait, she might just settle back as well. even if she cries out loud, wait if there is a break shortly after. and if next cries are quieter and less stressed...if you think besides being tired she is allright, try to wait - linnet: chessington is great! dp and i, we just love themeparks. we live close to legoland and can't wait for DS to be a bit older (mainly though we get to go on all those rides!!) - libb: maybe try to feed lo from a cup for a change. those cups to cover bottles with. to make him see there are diff ways to get fed. and then try bottle again? - judd: might see you on here later then - dp works nights and he leaves about 9pm and DS should be in bed by then

forgot completly! had major trouble today to put him down for his morning nap. he went down at 8ish for 30min - normally 2 hours. but he just laughed at me when i went to see him. took him down again and wanted to go shopping instead. since he was up anyways. guess what? mister got grumpy and no way to go out. so i spend some "quiet time " with him. singing, talking till he rubbed his eyes and then finally he decided to give it a try - woke once after 30min but i just stroked his head and he settled again!!! pffff, finally! - but he was brilliant for lunch - had a full cup of "cottage pie" a joghurt and a 6oz bottle (well, had to start with milk because he was soooooo hungry ) ---- maaaa, can't leave him alone for 5min lately! will he ever learn to roll back onto his back????

Linnet, London WAS quite warm. We packed for Fife and it was a mistake... I didn't need my jumper.

We went to introduce DD to my 97 year old grandmother , who's got early Altzheimer's. I was going all prepared fot her not knowing quite who we were, let alone who DD was, but she was on cracking form. She kept saying: "And the baby... I am his... Grandmother?"
"No, GREAT grandmother, Nana!"
"GREAT grandmother? Well, I'll be dashed!"
She really was like a sort of caricature of a sweet old lady, in her crocheted waistcoat and pleated skirt with her skinny shins sticking out. I was quite touched.

DD bravely tolerated being mistaken for a boy; Nana had two boys herself and the mere fact that DD wore a party frock for both visits did little to sway the confusion.

Libb, I am still hanging on in for more on your garden design! Any news?

I cannot keep up with you all - especially now I am limiting my Mumsnet time (how long do you think that will last)
I am feeling so much better now - in fact I can't even remember how I felt when I felt v. bad. I'm still depressed about not going back to work - I don't like being "just" a SAHM - I need quantifiable acheivements, and I figure I won't get those from my kids for another 20 odd years. But I am finding things to keep busy - just sent off for the list of courses available at my local college - thinking of maybe doing massage therapy - even if I decide I don't want to make it into a career later on I'm sure my dh would appreciate my skills. And I've just invited 18 people to come and stay for Xmas - and so far 15 have said yes! So I'm going to be busy sorting that out, and then come February I'll be househunting in earnest, and then decorating/building, and if I pass my driving test I'll be able to do much more during the week... So I can see light somewhere at the end of the tunnel.

DS can roll -both ways. He learnt to roll back onto his back v. quickly - encouraged by dd who would haul him over by his sleepsuit "No babin go on tummy, naughty" whenever he rolled. So now he just does 360 degrees.

ahh prufrock, can i borrow yr dd??? need her to teach ds to roll back onto back

blimey you talk!

prufrock, lovely to see more of you. good luck with the driving.....it'll make life so much more bareable i'm sure. i'd hate not being able to drive. just been to asda to get the famous sleeping bag...smashing. put it on the handle of of the pushchair, then thought i'd shop around to see if anything else was worth buying (they have BIG boxes of pampers btw, for £11..) anway, couldnt see anything so though i'd leave and take a walk to mcdonalds .....with the sleeping bag on the pushchair!!!! got to McDs and realised. oh god oh god. luckily no one was following me. i seriously could have just nicked it! unbelievable. i had walked past a security guard on the way out too. anyway, thought had better return and pay for the darn thing. passed guard on way in and he still didnt spot the pink thing hanging from the pushchair!

sounded like a good hols spots. am sweating alittle about dd's passport arriving on time for next week, when we go to gay parrreeeee

dd just had a screaming fit in the post office. its so embarrassing isnt it, especially when old grumpy people look at you as though you can't control your child. poor thing.

libb, i honestly dont know what to suggest re: the bottle. i think giving her to someone else to try is a very good idea though.

linnet, you are so lucky having a baby that sleeps through, and the others of you that do too. not such a bad night last night, 10, 2.30, 4.30 7.20 but i am STILL waiting for my first night's sleep in 4 months.

major breakthrough today. went to playgroup and dd was lying under a playgym then after a bit she rolled on to her belly and was just watching everyone and then fell asleep!!! all by herself. shame i had to wake her when playgroup ended. now all i need are 7 kids to come and play in her bedroom at about 10 tomorrow while i put her in her cot where she can watch them and fall asleep
will def give the muslin thing a go.

awww bless! you could borrow DS for 1 day; or 2 ... or 3 -
omg egypt!! just lucky the guard didn't realise!! just imagine he'd caught you ... - oh passport! good that you remind me! ehm, where do you get the pics from??? and will he keep that babypicture till he is 10???? poor boy - has anybody got a highchair yet??? cause i just found out that ds is too heavy for bumbo grmpf

WOW! thats good!
we're off to mother and baby tomorrow. havent been yet. there will be the mums that go to baby massage. their babs are all around 4 months old.

anyone about? dh has gone to watch the footy at the pub

go to jessops or click photopoint and they take a pic for you. thats what we did.

we got a booster chair highchair thing from argos. it just straps onto your dining room chair and is very light and portable as folds up small.

yep i am here - ds is already in bed and dp is watching tv (something engineering ...) - oh jessops, i'll try that; thx - can lo sit in that boosterseat yet??? because lucas wants to sit upright all the time and i'd like something to support him (not always "mummy-chair" )

what's mother and baby?? -where abouts are you again?

mother and baby is just where the mums meet. happens on a tues morning in the local village hall. just to get out of the house really and meet other mums. you will definitely have lots around your area. i am in the east midlands, close to derby.

dd cant sit upright on her own let alone in the booster seat. we havent even got it out of the box! i'll use her bumbo when she is used to feeding. but think i'll just hold her on my lap for the first few weeks.

i dont know if you know what a bumbo seat is!? a few of us went mad on here and bought one. we posted piccies of our lo's in them. since then they have kind of lost popularity amongst us(i think). dd wont sit in hers for lond, she gets frustrated as she wants to move! but i think they will suit you just fine. they are recommended for feeding when the baby is unable to sit unaided.

here's dd in her's
bumbo

you can get them from here - kiddicare.com
this place is the cheapest. but you can only get the horrid green on like mine from there! toys r us have them in too.