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mother left her children sleeping in the car and went shopping....one of them woke up....

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ruddynorah · 10/06/2007 17:53

i work at a huge out of town m&s with an enormous car park. this woman left her small baby and her 3 year old daughter asleep in the car. she locked the doors and left the windows slightly open (it was very very hot) and went into the store to do some food shopping.

while she was shopping, the 3 year old woke up, unlocked the car door, got out and started wandering around the car park. so there she is, bare feet, half asleep, dummy in her mouth, looking for her mummy... when another customer saw her and brought her into the store for us to look after and find her mum.

the 3 year old tells me her baby sister is still asleep in the car. so we did a tannoy for her mum (at that point not sure if she actually was in our store or the asda next door, or the boots...or that the girl had given us the correct name) and the security guard went into the car park to look for this car with the door possibly wide open and a baby asleep in it( or maybe awake by then).

so i'm standing there with this 3 year old feeling slightly shaky at how awful the whole thing is, when the mother turns up with the security guard. she's gone to her car with the shopping to find her 3 year old missing. the security guard found her shouting for her daughter. she's apparently mildly concerned, but not terribly. she sees the look on my face and says... 'i know what you're thinking and it's not like that actually, i only left them for 5 minutes to get a few bits so don't look at me like that, how was i to know she could unlock the car?!' and off they went

i'm not quite sure how i was looking at her, my head was just racing with...what if someone had run this tiny child over, or what if she'd wandered off and no one stopped her...or what if someone reached in and opened the car door and took her... silly, silly woman. doubt she'll do it again.

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edam · 11/06/2007 23:12

octo, you've got it right - we were taught stationers sell stationery.

VSS, I've always suspected that's how they fiddled the figures. Per passenger mile would clearly sway it in their favour.

edam · 11/06/2007 23:13

VSS Merely the perils of living in London. I'm amazed I survived living in the traffic jam that is Hammersmith for so long, tbh.

Quattrocento · 11/06/2007 23:13

The question of whether or not to report to Social Services is a really good one.

We all agree that the parent's action was irresponsible. Tet not one of us would willingly report it. Even those of us who would be prepared to report it would do so after much soulsearching and a heavy heart.

The problem with not reporting it is that this action may be a symptom of a wider problem. None of us can know whether or not that is the case until the family has been reviewed.

If you believe that we have a responsibility to all children, then shouldn't this action be reported?

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octo · 11/06/2007 23:13

My husband was driving so slow once - a child ran into the side of the car - when he went to their house to tell them what happened there was no adult in isght - had taken the dog for a walk and left three kids behind

JodieG1 · 11/06/2007 23:18

I report it, would get the number plate and do it without worrying either. The children need to be safe and they could have died in that car in the heat. It doesn't take long.

JodieG1 · 11/06/2007 23:18

I'd not I

octo · 11/06/2007 23:24

The thing is - if I saw a dog in a car like that would probably report it - alright for kids but not dogs? There is that sticker which says dogs die in hot cars - maybe the government needs to widen the criteria to include kids.

I would also have to do something - likely to be the police.

bookwormmum · 11/06/2007 23:38

I wouldn't do it - I'd take them with me or go without my shopping. My dd would go nuts if I left her in my car by herself let alone the issues of the car might get hit/her being kidnapped etc/the car overheating and she's nearly 7. She knows that she can't cope with some stuff on her own which I think is good - she know that some 'rules' are there for a purpose, not just Mummy being a pain .

ruddynorah · 11/06/2007 23:53

yes to whoever asked, it was the owlcotes centre. tis a fair walk isn't it? from the front car park, asda side, to the food hall.

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Skribble · 12/06/2007 00:46

I would have no problems reporting a mother you tried to cook her children in a car, FGS they would have phone the police and the RSPCA if it had been a dog.

If mum was having a genuine nervous breakdown and was unaware of her actions fine but she would still need profesional help, but sounds more like neglect.

IsabelWatchingItRainInMacondo · 12/06/2007 01:07

OCto, in some hot countries babies can die of heatstroke even if you are driving around with the kid

barney2 · 12/06/2007 11:44

handlemecarefully....actually yes I have known it happen (vehicle colliding with another vehicle in petrol forecourt and causing a fire) - I did not say it happens everyday but IT HAS HAPPENED...some years ago admittedly. Thank you...

Also it was only last year that my husband's car was parked up at a pump (he was paying for fuel in the kiosk) and an elderly gentleman was leaving in his vehicle towing a caravan behind him which collided with my husband's car and rode up his bonnet.....

Purchasing fuel = go when free of children or take them in with you.
Shopping = ditto.

Simple.

We are all different parents. Some more responsible than others....which these posts clearly indicate.

Blandmum · 12/06/2007 11:46

Barney2, but in those cases the underground tank didn't catch fire? Did it?

americantrish · 12/06/2007 11:49

good gods!!!
the little girl is SO lucky to be safe and alive. so is the other little one.

not too concerned? social services should have been called.

i'm just gobsmacked.

barney2 · 12/06/2007 11:50

Yes it did....that's why I put it on MN!!! It was back in the 70's and I can distinctly remember most of the town being sealed off because of the fire caused by a pump being completely demolished by a vehicle and the huge ball of flames that came up from the ground....I am in no way saying this is a regular everyday risk BUT it is a risk.

I find it completely shocking that parents do leave their children in the car and in some cases a locked car whilst they are paying for shopping/fuel etc etc.

Blandmum · 12/06/2007 11:52

TBH I wouldn't have though that being the kiosk would be that much safer

barney2 · 12/06/2007 11:58

I agree....so don't take them with you. There must be times when ALL parents, no matter how busy we all are, can use our precious spare time to simply go and get some petrol??!!!....

adath · 12/06/2007 12:44

Do you know I wonder where some people get off implying that they are more responsible parents because they leave their kids in the car and go pay for petrol
I would love to live in your world where everything is so black and white, yes the majority of the time it is possible to get petrol alone but it toally seems to be beyond some peoples comprehension that it doesn't always work like that and there could be a lot of reasons why you HAVE to get fuel when you have the children with you and in that situation I will leave my kids in the car because I deem it safer than dragging a small child and a baby across the forecourt because I can almost guarentee someone was knocked down an hurt seriously or not more recently than the 1970's.

edam · 12/06/2007 12:48

Agree with Adath, very odd to claim people are irresponsible for making a different risk assessment to you. If you run the stats, I'm sure that you'd find the risks of being run over walking across a garage forecourt are much higher than the risks of the whole petrol station blowing up while you are in the car. Call ROSPA if you don't believe me. Yet I'm not calling you irresponsible, just explaining why I make a different risk assessment.

maisemor · 12/06/2007 12:50

Do none of you people who leave your children alone in the car watch CSI or the like? Because I have watched these series, read the newspapers, watched the news (I no longer do any of these, as it is just tooooo depressing), I can not leave my children alone (apart from when they go to bed at night).

Pervs are quiet, devious, quick, looking for opportunities. They do not always observe your little family for months on end to figure out when would be the best time to strike. Sometimes, they drive past see a child walking alone, stop the car, grab child and drive off.......yuk.

Children are trusting, adventerous, quick, daring, and figure things out a lot faster than their parents sometimes choose to believe.

I am not saying kidnappings happen every day however, I do choose to learn from other peoples mistakes when it comes to looking after my children and keeping them as safe as possible.

And no I am never going to win the mother of the year award.

FioFio · 12/06/2007 12:51

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MerryMarigold · 12/06/2007 12:53

To Barney 2:

Responsible? Paranoid? Fine line in my opinion. I could not live worrying about everything that may befall my child which has occurred since 1970. 2 kids were poisoned by a gas leak on holiday far more recently - should we all avoid going on holiday, anywhere, ever again?

I would much rather be a little 'irresponsible', and be relaxed enough to give my kids the freedom to make mistakes, even get hurt on occasion. They will be happier kids and more relaxed adults as a result.

MamaG · 12/06/2007 12:53

do you work in Pudsey ruddynorah?

maisemor · 12/06/2007 12:53

And....it has still made me paranoid.

MamaG · 12/06/2007 12:54

Just read a bit more of thread - yes you do!