I agree with every word of this article about the ideal of parenting

[margoandjerry]

In the times today

except that I wouldn't bother to explain why I was screaming.

do any of you remember the first or second episode of 'Desperate Housewives' when the desperate housewife dumps her three sons on the side of the road, only to drive back a few minutes late, racked with guilt, to find they had disappeared?

'desperate housewife' just about sums it up.

well the way she described it sounded like she found it amusing tbh

If I did that to one of my four year olds possessions she would be terrified.

oh piss off Enid

you think you are soooooooooo perfect

We have a 3 hour car journey tomorrow. I am not worried. However, my DTS will have a Gameboy each, colouring, books, paper, Michael Jackson's Greatest Hits on the cd player, Eye Spy, a packed lunch, blah blah. Hopefully, whilst I snore in the passenger seat (can't help it, body's reaction to being in that chair), they will be very busy and happy.

I too give the 'Mummy's starting to get v e r y cross' speech, and then purse my lips. No-one is a perfect mother and we all go through meltdowns.

I do like the tip at the end of the article about the map and the red pen. I'm def. doing that tomorrow.

"Are we there yet?" Gawd, lol.

She bashed the bag, not the child

I think if I did that to one of my DD's possessions, she'd be livid, not terrified.

When my kids squabble in the car, I just turn the music up.

my dd would be livid, she would be plotting revenge in her room for days, I would be the terrified one!

THe answer is to only have one my dd has no one to squabble with.

Possible quote of the week

She bashed the bag, not the child

dd2 could have an arguement in an empty room, believe me

I think my DD would start hitting me tbh.

Screaming and flailing

Oh gawd

I once threatened to throw something out of the window and she jumped, screamed and flailed at me. It was actually quite funny, but also quite extreme. I'd forgotten that till now - it was obviously so traumatic I'd erased it from my memory.

dd just tends to whinge to be honest.

Malmaman - I lost it recently just like that! Got my first period in months with hellish pms so I had rage inside the whole time. DS had been shooting me with part of a garage for ages and generally being mental and I took it off him and started whacking it on the table while shouting at him. It was damn sturdy! DS watched me and then told me that I was naughty for doing it!

I did cry about it later and feel the most horrible, crazed mother in the world who deserved her child be taken away.

Some people are more volatile, and some people's children are vastly more annoying to their parents.

Wonder how many people I will have alienated with the above post! And for the record, I did tell ds that I was very angry and shouldn't have behaved as badly as that and that I was sorry.

Ooooh talking of tempers, oliveoil...

(I can't believe you haven't slaughtered one of your kid's soft toys ...not even once?)

Enid and Oliveoil, I think it would have been horrible and shocking if Malmaman had flung her DD against the wall. At least she took it out on an inanimate object and I'm sure her daughter learnt a valuable lesson about not pushing people too far. I'm not saying we should make a habit of smashing up possessions but sometimes chucking an inanimate object can relieve an awful lot of tension.

Course I apologised, I was gutted because I'd lost it in front of her, but I lost it with the monkey bag and that I can live with!

And yes, in retrospect we both (dd and me) thought it was funny. How awful. Just like we both it was funny - in retrospect - that when dd got mad with me, she spited me by throwing all her dolls in the recycling bin - to teach me a lesson and BEFORE YOU START - this was before the monkey bag incident as it's come to be known so it's not like mother like daughter etc thank you very much - not that you're predictable or anything!!!

Well I am going to have to leave this thread as you are all clearly insane.

my dd would probably laugh seems the angrier i get the less it bothers her so i don't think i'm doing her much harm haven't yet resorted to toy battering though... but then she is only 2 so i'm guessing she has vast reserves of annoying that will come into play in the next 10 years!

this household all know that if mommy says 'do that one more time, i dare you......' it's time to back away slowly and sit very quietly for a minute so as not to attract my attention.... although dp sometimes forgets

Thank you Love Angel - the voice of reason!

[has horrible feeling that she is raising her children in some kind of Fairyland and they will spontaneously implode once forced to meet spawn of '21st Century Mothers' TM]

voice of reason, rofl

why would I want to destroy their toys?

[mind boggles]

anyway I really do have work to do

Off you go then