madeleine mccann was not abducted because she was left in a hotel room

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ok, i'm probably going to regret this - but i am dismayed to see the same old arguments coming up again and again about whether the mccann's were irresponsible to leave their children unsupervised in a hotel room.
it seems to be the same people posting too.
if they had taken her with them she could have still been abducted while running around while they were having their meal. i doubt they could have watched a 3yr old every second and she could have been snatched while out of sight, as happened to jamie bulger.

the person responsible is the one who abducted her, and if, sadly, it is anything to do with paedophilia, then all those people who support the industry in child porn by watching and paying for the stuff also bear some responsibility.

www.forsarah.com/html/sarahslaw.html perhaps we could all be doing something to try and stop it.

normal routine? But this isn't their normal routine. they live in the UK, they go to nursery there. They were on holiday. being on holiday is no more a normal routine than going to see the pope.

I think if I was beside myself with grief I'd leave my children with a relative tbh.

What on earth does a 2yr old stand to gain from a flight to Rome & a meeting with the Pope & hundreds of other people?

You never know what you'd do until your in that situation!

and they have said they are going to be travelling around europe and then approaching heads of state in Africa and asking pop stars to hold benefit concerts for Madeleine.

Fiofio of course at some stage they will have to return, but at the moment they are doing everything in their power to keep Maddy in the press and its obviously working - we're still all talking about it.

Scottishthistle - I totally agree, you just put it better than me!!!

Hmm, I could go there, but I'd rather drink Fio's voddy instead . . .

god i could murder a vodka and coke

and they have said they are going to be travelling around europe and then approaching heads of state in Africa and asking pop stars to hold benefit concerts for Madeleine.

When did they say that?

Same here, naily.

This weather makes me crave whisky.

Well, that's my excuse .

their pr person was on the radio this morning and he said that.

I'm going to go to some heads of state in Africa and ask them to do what I want for my own benefit, never mind things like begging them to stop making child soldiers out of wee boys and raping and enslaving wee girls or using aid money to fund their own lifestyles or genocide or anything like that.

I was watching this on GMTV and just knew there'd be some smart arse on MN questionning them leaving the twins. I imagine they want to keep the twins as sheltered from this horrific event as we want to keep our children sheltered from the evils inthe world.

Leaving them in a now familiar environment with their Aunty and other familiar relatives is surely the best thingto do.

People are making out they've gone on a holiday jaunt for a bit of 5star R&R.

Of course they can't keep this up forever but I think itsup to the Mcanns to make that judgement call, not us spectators.

More to the point, I do think if it hadn't have been Madeleine abducted then it would have been another child as it appears this was a planned operation rather than spur of the moment opportunity.

I have no intention of signing Sarah's Law as I disagree with the principle behind it.

and people are still talking about it but not as positively as were previously. with the positive comes the negative. the fact that they have left the twins for instance doesn't generate positive publicity as it doesn't pain them in the light of devoted family members that they would have people believe. the setting up of their fund definitely lost them respect from a lot of people I know.

expat and furreal - I hope to god nothing bad ever happens to your lo's because of a stupid decison you have made - unless of course you are perfect and never make any mistake then you don;t need to worry

there's a difference between a mistake that could cause something to happen to your child, for instance if I took my eye off my child for a second and he fell or hurt himself. but the mccanns didn't make a mistake, they took a deliberate decision to leave their three small children unsupervised, in a hotel, in a foreign country, while they went off to have a nice child free dinner. That's not a mistake, it's just bloody irresponsible.

and for the record, I don't think they deserved to have their daughter abducted, but that doesn't take away from the fact I think that what they did was wrong. The two are not mutually exclusive.

They are devout catholics. They went to see the Pope and he blessed a photo of their daughter. The daughter I think sadly they are unlikely to see alive again. I imagine it was a hugely moving and upsetting moment for them. And I can see perfectly why they didn't want their other children to witness it and why they may not have wanted to share that reason with the media.

FurReal you really cant be ForReal can you?

No matter what you think of their decision to leave their children unsupervised,
let's face it millions of Parents do this & still will!

I don't feel you have even considered exactly how they'll be feeling & what is good for their other children at this awful time!

Gawd, I hate that abbreviation - lo's.

Txtspk 4eva.

a mistake is a mistake whatever happens because of it furreal.

If they ever though that their DD would be abducted then of course they wouldn;t have done what they did.

As I said before I hope nothing ever happens to your LO's because of your actions. You know bad things can happen to your child when you are being responsible too - what if instead of falling over your child ran into the road when you took your eye off them for that second?

For what its worth, I would not have done left them, but that is now totally irrelevant and does nothing to help the current situation.

sorry expat - not sure if furreal has sons or daughters so though lo's would be easier!

and if millions of parents do it then I think they are wrong to do so. In the same way that people think it's wrong too smack.

just because something horrible happened doesn't suddenly make it ok.

Fair point, furReal, but prepare to be pounced on for it.

Nobody said it was ok though did they!

However, I still think they've done the right thing by leaving the little one's with their Aunt.

Would you not leave your child with your Sister for a day or two?