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madeleine mccann was not abducted because she was left in a hotel room

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rattleskuttle · 30/05/2007 11:03

ok, i'm probably going to regret this - but i am dismayed to see the same old arguments coming up again and again about whether the mccann's were irresponsible to leave their children unsupervised in a hotel room.
it seems to be the same people posting too.
if they had taken her with them she could have still been abducted while running around while they were having their meal. i doubt they could have watched a 3yr old every second and she could have been snatched while out of sight, as happened to jamie bulger.

the person responsible is the one who abducted her, and if, sadly, it is anything to do with paedophilia, then all those people who support the industry in child porn by watching and paying for the stuff also bear some responsibility.

www.forsarah.com/html/sarahslaw.html perhaps we could all be doing something to try and stop it.

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Boco · 30/05/2007 23:03

This has some interesting points about Sarah's Law www.spiked-online.com/Articles/00000002D351.htm

OutragedfromTunbridgeWells · 30/05/2007 23:07

You thoght grace ws OK??

I'm not watching it this year. watching it demeans me.

I say this every year and end up watchimg by week 4 at the latest. But this year I mean it.

rattleskuttle · 30/05/2007 23:10

have just read it boco and can see it is a complicated issue. but i thought that one thing that made sex offenders different from, for example, murderers, was their very high rate of re-offending. perhaps i've been influenced by the daily mail too much? i certainly don't read it but my father still likes it and loves to read bits to me, for instance, when i am trapped in the car. what i'd really like to do is for all sex offenders to be chemically castrated but i don't think that will be one of gordon brown's first announcements

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blondomatic · 30/05/2007 23:11

ok i feel bad about the stuff i posted earlier, i take it back. sorry it caused offence

Rhubarb · 30/05/2007 23:11

Your father traps you in the car and reads The Daily Mail to you?

This is abuse surely?

rattleskuttle · 30/05/2007 23:12

outraged - grace was quite like my daughter, now 20 yrs old, and a lot like her group of friends - bratty and horrible in lots of ways but i felt motherly towards her ("motherly" - horrible word, makes me sound like a clucky hen)

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hunkermunker · 30/05/2007 23:13

No, you misunderstand the atmosphere at the eviction - honestly. It's ALL panto. Yes, I booed, I was hoarse from the amount of noise I made, but it was fun.

It was the night Carole wotserface went - the night Jade and Danielle laid into Shilpa

I like to tell DH I like BB in a postmodern, ironic fashion and that attending an eviction is part of contemporary history.

He doesn't believe me though.

Boco, copy of my cv in the post to you. You still live at "Inyerdreams" don't you?

Outraged, I make MYSELF feel all those things

Boco · 30/05/2007 23:19

The Daily Mail is not a balanced view on this subject [mild]

A sex offender may reoffend, but us being able to find out where he lives is not going to stop him reoffending - it will force him to be more devious, or to develop better underground contacts and ways of operating. The police know, social services know, relevent depts know, - but parents knowing won't protect our children, it will add to the climate of fear and violence. As that article said, you may see that joe smith at number 24 is on the list. you won't know if he was a rapist or he once flashed someone during a nervous breakdown, or slept with his 15 year old girlfriend when he was 17. It won't make things safer for our kids to have him regularly beaten up or his house burnt down.

Boco · 30/05/2007 23:20

Ahhh Hunker, postmodern irony, every artist's parachute.

hunkermunker · 30/05/2007 23:23

Boco, completely agree re Sarah's Law. It doesn't help anyone at all.

rattleskuttle · 30/05/2007 23:28

rhubarb - if you see a woman with mad, stary eyes driving a skoda, slapping an old man with a rolled up daily mail, you'll know who it is.

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Aimsmum · 31/05/2007 00:21

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rattleskuttle · 01/06/2007 09:28

i suppose better monitoring, programmes to try and change deviant behaviour, etc, might all work much better if they were better funded.
here is another viewpoint on sarah's/megan's law: www.kidscape.org.uk/press/pressdetail.asp?PressID=17

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wishingchair · 01/06/2007 23:21

I wish I'd never looked at this thread. I feel wretched that there are people out there who are feeling nothing but horror and deep sympathy for the family. To suggest they should be returning to "normality" so soon after the abduction of their little girl is nothing but banal. I can only assume these posters have never had to deal with anything traumatic in their lives. If they had, they would be able to appreciate the total, horrific, life changing ordeal the family are going through. Yes we all have different opinions and that's fine. But I'm not going to read any more.

expatinscotland · 01/06/2007 23:28

Yes, Aims, the council was housing convicted child sex offenders in B&Bs mere yards from DD1's nursery/school because they were homeless.

kimi · 01/06/2007 23:38

I agree 100% RS someone took her for a reason, and I think they would have taken her at some point if she had not been left in the room alone.
Please lets not start the witch hunt again.

pho3be · 21/02/2017 13:26

On This Morning today a detective said he thought she had got up to go look for her parents because the prev night she had asked them where they were because the twins woke up. So she knew they were out at the bar, went looking for them & got lost/fell/abducted. Sounds most plausible theory.

ophiotaurus · 21/02/2017 13:35

This thread is ten years old.

pho3be · 21/02/2017 13:44

Yes, and its still news because the wee girl is still missing. If there wasnt all this silly legal stuff the coast may become clear to proper theories that may lead to the truth

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