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madeleine mccann was not abducted because she was left in a hotel room

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rattleskuttle · 30/05/2007 11:03

ok, i'm probably going to regret this - but i am dismayed to see the same old arguments coming up again and again about whether the mccann's were irresponsible to leave their children unsupervised in a hotel room.
it seems to be the same people posting too.
if they had taken her with them she could have still been abducted while running around while they were having their meal. i doubt they could have watched a 3yr old every second and she could have been snatched while out of sight, as happened to jamie bulger.

the person responsible is the one who abducted her, and if, sadly, it is anything to do with paedophilia, then all those people who support the industry in child porn by watching and paying for the stuff also bear some responsibility.

www.forsarah.com/html/sarahslaw.html perhaps we could all be doing something to try and stop it.

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Rhubarb · 30/05/2007 16:52

And aimsmum, they have not chosen to be in the public eye, I'm certain they would rather not be. They are doing all they can to keep our minds on Madeleine, but I doubt it is easy for them and I doubt they are made to feel better by the blame culture that goes on.

hunkermunker · 30/05/2007 16:56

I agree 100% with your post, Rhubarb.

Aimsmum, posters post on here and have the chance to put their case and defend themselves.

It's like kicking a puppy to have a go at the McCann's atm, I think.

And we don't know what happened that night, not entirely.

That's why I object to this endless "I would" and "I wouldn't" stuff.

hunkermunker · 30/05/2007 16:57

Ahem.

I agree with your posts.

And I meant McCanns, not McCann's. fgs

wannaBe · 30/05/2007 16:58

And my mil also said that she thought the family had something to do with it. I don?t think that view is as uncommon as people would like to believe, not because of who the Mccanns are or how they have reacted etc, but because so many of these cases turn out to have something to do with someone who was close to the victim, so more often than not we see an emotional appeal on tv only for a parent/partner/husband/wife to be arrested shortly afterward. In fact I read somewhere once that one of the reasons why the police encourage family of a missing person to make an appeal is so that they can be watched by psychological profilers to assess the likelihood of them being involved themselves.

Also I think it?s more comforting in a way, to think that it could have been someone known to the victim than to think that it was a stranger and that your own child could be at risk, iyswim?

Rhubarb · 30/05/2007 16:59

I do not understand how your post relates wannabe but I'm not sure I want to. What a horrible thing to think!

ruddynorah · 30/05/2007 17:00

who is your MIL wannabe?

wannaBe · 30/05/2007 17:03

it's not a view I share btw - I merely posted that in relation to a post further down the thread. have been staying with ILs for the past week so obviously this topic was discussed when it appeared on the news.

LIZS · 30/05/2007 17:03

Here here, Rhubarb.

ruddynorah · 30/05/2007 17:04

right.

Aimsmum · 30/05/2007 17:04

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hunkermunker · 30/05/2007 17:04

It is often the case that psychologists watch appeals by family to see whether or not they have anything to do with it, yes.

But more comforting to us, the general public, to think it was a specific sicko, known to the family, and not just random weirdo nutjob - I don't agree.

After all, anyone can know sickos, no?

Rhubarb · 30/05/2007 17:06

Of course you can post your opinion, but I think it is wrong to hold up the McCann case as an example to support your argument.

You either do leave your kids unattended on occasion or you feel mortified at the thought. But as none of us know what exactly happened to the McCanns I don't believe it qualifies any of us to offer an opinion on it.

DrNortherner · 30/05/2007 17:07

Well, the title of this thread is rather icorrect actually. As it happens she was abducted because she was left in her apartment.

She may have been abducted even if not left unsupervised, but this we will never know.

Of course this will spark debate, because many other parents every year on their family holiday have done the same.

However, pointing the finger I'm sure is not helping anyone, particularly the McCanns.

And I am sure, whatever we all think, we will all rejoice for that family, if and when she is returned home alive and well.

NKF · 30/05/2007 17:07

People think everything don't they? From the moment they first heard about the abduction, if they have any imagination at all, dozens of thoughts and scenarious flash through their mind. All that is being argued about on this site is whether or not some of those thoughts are okay to debate.

FioFio · 30/05/2007 17:09

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donnie · 30/05/2007 17:09

why is this wretched thread even going? I can't believe people are raking over the same arguments again and again.

nogoes · 30/05/2007 17:10

Does anyone remember the case of Gemma who was abducted from a caravan in Weymouth whilst her parents were sleeping in another room about 17 years ago? She was found alive and well, lets pray the same can be said of Madeleine.

Rhubarb · 30/05/2007 17:10

I could let off a very big fart if you think that will clear the thread?

FioFio · 30/05/2007 17:11

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hunkermunker · 30/05/2007 17:11

Honestly, guys - Rhubarb's wind is lethal.

Rhubarb · 30/05/2007 17:12

Ohhh nogoes, yes I do! When we lived in a caravan for 3.5 months I was a bit worried about this. dd and ds were in the back bit and there was a huge window that was sometimes left open because of the heat. In the end it boiled down to letting our kids fry to death in a bloody hot caravan, or taking the risk and leaving the window open, blinds down.

I suppose if one of them had been snatched we would have been deemed irresponsible for leaving the window open.

hunkermunker · 30/05/2007 17:12
Aimsmum · 30/05/2007 17:12

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nailpolish · 30/05/2007 17:13

anyone remember the little girl who was snatched from her own bath? you can be in the house and still get your child taken from you

jsut thought i would throw tha t in

IntergalacticWalrus · 30/05/2007 17:13

That's my only contribution to the Madeleine McCann threads so far, but quite honestly, I am astounded at the sort of comments I have read on them

In fact, it's made me want to stay away from MN because it's so unpleasant.

A bit like the fart I've just done.

Now, chew on the air

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