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What to expect with Social Services inviting themselves into our lives and accusing my partner of domestic abuse?

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mumof2beebies · 26/04/2011 15:31

Hi, we have a meeting coming up with social services to find out 'how they can support us' I'm skeptical and didn't ask for this.
Bassically me and my partner have two children, a 4yo with special needs and a 1 year old. Me and him were arguing alot and a few months ago I called the police because he locked me out of the house, they came and I apologized for wasting their time and they said well we're gonna have to send a note to social services because of the the domestic alteration, even though there was no violence, me and him made up instantly and I regreted calling them over something stupid like that. We had the lead of our Caf support team come out to see us (they meet up to support us with my 4 yr old getting everything he needs, he's in need of a diagnosis right now, because of all his delays). The early years support worker came out to do a home check and said it's all fine, I joked that my partner had his own room (we have 2 living rooms, one a kids room and one with a huge tv and xbox, my partner does spend most of his time with us and certainly does half the chores and parenting). We are equal. so he asked to speak to me alone and questioned whether my partner was controlling, I said no of course not.
Then a few weeks later we broke up breifly (last month.) I stayed in a hostel for a couple of days, then wanted to come home with the kids because me and my partner felt ready after our little break. But the person leading the CAF team (that we've only ever met twice) called and said that he doesn't think I'm being honest with him and that he thinks I must have been scared to leave in 'such a rush' and go to a hostel. I said no, I just needed to get away from the silly bickering, but we're okay now, and it's much worse for the kids in this hostel, we'd all picked up infections and the kids were missing their dad. The CAF team leader 'support worker' said no he thinks I'm not being honest and he thinks I'm a victim of some kind of domestic violence or abuse, because he knows that my son wet the bed and seems angry, I said that's because of his special needs, he doesn't even know my child. I said that's ridiculous, that I would be a victim of anything to my partner, I'm perfectly half to blame for our argument. He said well he'll be telling the social services he thinks the children are at risk if I go back, because he thinks my son's behaviour is systoms of trauma. (but we're quite sure he's autistic). So I stayed in the hostel for about 2 weeks, isolated with both kids, because I was scared social services would take the kids off me. I was then hospitalised with a bad chest infection I picked up from the hostel, because I have immuno-deficiency disease and was in hospital for a week on oxygen and all sorts. I get ill often, that's one reason why my partner is such an intrinsinc part of our lives, he does a lot of the parenting. I was in hospital for just over a week and my partner looked after our children and took good care of them and brought them to see me every day, because he's a good dad to them. He gets our son ready and takes him to nursery every day while I sleep in the morning with our baby, that's what kinda dad he is. Anyway, this support worker found out my partner was looking after the kids and called social services. A social worker came out to visit us along with our usual health visitor on the day I was discharged so I got to come to the meeting back at our house, and my partner's mum was there as she had been helping with the care of the children, like she usually does.
The social worker said they must have got their wires crossed, there doesn't appear to be domestic violence as I've never accused him of it, there's no evidence of it, etc, therefor no grounds for social services involvement, and she said of course I can come home, without any worry of them. So we were unbelievably relieved, went and got my things from the hostel and all moved home and we've been happy since.
Then last week the social worker called me and told me that she spoke to the hostel manager and she said that I had told her they'd been domestic abuse, which is false, and she only got this idea from the 'support' worker who was threatening me with SS if I went back, as they spoke on the phone on a few occasions, as he'd instructed her not to let my partner visit me and my kids. When I arrived at the hostel I did have a long talk with her and say that I'm sick of the arguing, as it obviously peaked before I left and that he had locked me out of the house. So the social worker repeated back to me that I'd said he had locked me out of the house (as the worst example they could could up with for there being 'domestic abuse/violence') and I said yes, that did happen but I'm not a victim of DV, I've locked him out before, for gods sakes. The social worker fobbed off what I was saying and declared that they were going to get involved to see how they can help, now.
So Social Services are getting involved now under the false ASSumption that my partner is abusive and I'm a victim of DV.
I want to tell them not to come near us, as we have enough support already from the CAF team, including the nursery manager, our health visitor and speach and language person and such, and I'm quite pro-active in arranging all the appointments for my son's special needs.

Do I have any legal right to tell them to go to hell?? I'm so stressed, that they're doing this, as I know they look for everything possible wrong, and they're scare mongerers, and that they can threaten to take the kids off us if we don't seperate, if they feel like it.
It's also slander to both of us, my partner obviously, and also to me for suggesting that I'd have my kids around DV.

What do we do?

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Northernlurker · 26/04/2011 17:21

Beaker - people fleeing violence or harassment (or to be exact who say they are) may be considered for emergency housing as may people with dependant children. The op will have ticked two boxes in terms of 'entitlement'.

Georgimama · 26/04/2011 17:21

Indeed - when you put it like that one hardly wonders why SS have reached this conclusion.

BalloonSlayer · 26/04/2011 17:21

re your thread title - sadly I think it is YOU who has been accusing your partner of domestic abuse by lying to the council.

maddiemostmerry · 26/04/2011 17:22

You need to be sure you are putting your children's needs first. Social services will expect this to be your priority.

Going to the council and saying your husband kicked you out when you wanted some time is an extremely immature thing to do.

Children need routine and stability. A hostel is not hotel. Locking people out of houses is not usual behaviour. Your children will see all of this going on. You are their role model.

If you and your partner have issues you need to sort them out. If you don't you sound as if you have some growing up to do.

kerrymumbles · 26/04/2011 17:23

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mumof2beebies · 26/04/2011 17:24

Hi, I've read more now. I do appreciate what you're trying to help me with.

Maybe I can chill and bring up in the meeting what they could possibly help us with.

But lemme just say why I'm worried as hell, I KNOW that SS can take your kids if they ASSume you've gone back to a violent man.
For me to have to live seperately alone with the children would be awful. I get so ill, I'm on antibiotics constantly and they don't help, I just keep having to be hospitalised to get pumped back up with fluids, calcium, magnesium, I can't digest food, I'm anemic. If they come along with their scare mongering, saying oh we don't think it's normal we think he must be abusive and you should seperate, that would be awful for the kids, and me.

I went into hostels alot when I was a kids when my parents argued, I see it as back up, and also we're losing our house, I did consider it would get us housed quicker if I went there. BNut it's not nice for us to be away from my partner. He's full dad to one step dad to the other, and he's the best thing that's ever happened to us.

I'm trying to think of how I can go to this meeting with the child snatchers and not act like a battered woman in denial.
Uh! I need a cigarette!

Hubby doesn't work atm and has long hair and a beard, and wears dark clothes, typical attributes of a secret wife beater as you can see. Jeez.
Luckily the nursery worker is coming to the meeting and she is singing his praises with how she sees him with our son and how he brings him in every morning.
Also luckily the health visitor supports us being a family. She even says her and her parter have had their arguments and joked that she's felt like calling the police on him when she's extremely annoyed (but obviously she wasn't dramatic enough to do that).

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Goblinchild · 26/04/2011 17:24

Read further in the thread KM, Collision paragraphed the OP's post.

SummerRain · 26/04/2011 17:27

Op... how old are you?

Because you sound like a teenager. Only thinking of the immediate future with no understanding of long term consequences or how your actions might affect those around you... most notably your children.

I'm not rich, I could never afford to take myself off to a hotel for a break. But unless I was being beaten it would never even cross my mind to ask for emergency accommodation. It's just not a normal thing to do... and to lie to the authorities and say your partner kicked his wife and infant children out onto the street was a stupid, shortsighted and selfish thing to do.

changingmynameagain · 26/04/2011 17:27

You, your partner, and your two children really really need the help that SS can give.

please be open and honest with them.

Your life sounds chaotic.

BTW, from the last post you wrote, is your DH father to your first or second child? "Luckily the nursery worker is coming to the meeting and she is singing his praises with how she sees him with our son and how he brings him in every morning."

CinnabarRed · 26/04/2011 17:28

How on earth did you think that lying to the council about domestic abuse would get your whole family housed together more quickly? I can see it might have got you and your kids housed faster, but not with your DP. Were you planning to just move him in with you and hope no-one would notice?

OP, you're being incredibly immature. You react to situations without thinking through the long term consequences (or even short term ones). Your DP sounds like the mature one in your relationship.

mumof2beebies · 26/04/2011 17:28

How is saying he's asked me to leave to the council, me accusing him of DV? They can check the interview I did, I didn't accuse him of anything, or say I needed to flee. I said we're arguing a lot so he asked us to leave.

If I'd said I'm fleeing they would have put me in a refuge, refuges are a lot nicer. But I wouldn't accuse him of anything like that, because he would never do that.

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timetocallitaday · 26/04/2011 17:29

What exactly is your condition that requires them to pump you with calcium and magnesium?

mumof2beebies · 26/04/2011 17:29

He's blood father of our baby. But treats them both the same

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CinnabarRed · 26/04/2011 17:30

Asking a woman and infant children to leave the family home is domestic abuse.

Different from domestic violence.

You have given the authorities every reason to think that you're being abused - you've told them exactly that yourself.

changingmynameagain · 26/04/2011 17:31

Who has diagnosed your 4 year old with special needs?

Are you getting support and help wrt dealing with these special needs?

GypsyMoth · 26/04/2011 17:32

child snatchers???

you are now reminding me of a banned poster who spouts that nonsense!

if they take your kids its because you need help and are refusing to let them help and advise you!! never mind what some nursery worker thinks or says!!

BalloonSlayer · 26/04/2011 17:32

On here, just now, you used the words "kicked us out."

Now I know no one would necessarily assume that meant he had actually kicked any of you, but it implies a significantly more forceful, angry eviction than "asked me to leave" which sounds civilised.

I would say that a man who forced his partner and children leave their home with nowhere to go other than a hostel is being abusive, actually. So to me, what you wrote in your earlier post "he kicked us out" is calling him abusive. But maybe I am being fussy.

changingmynameagain · 26/04/2011 17:32

You say you already have a support team. What support exactly do you get already?

changingmynameagain · 26/04/2011 17:34

Also in your original post you state that your partner spends most of his time with you - does he live elsewhere or have I misconstrued that?

CinnabarRed · 26/04/2011 17:36

What's the betting that in a couple of years time we'll see an article in the Daily Mail where the OP tells all in tearful terms about how the evil babysnatchers stole her beloved children for absolutely no reason?

LadyInTheRadiat0r · 26/04/2011 17:36

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changingmynameagain · 26/04/2011 17:37

If you are already in danger of losing your house, as you say, then surely the intervention of SS is a good thing as it will help you get on your feet and sorted.

Out of interest, why are you losing your house?

BeakerTheMuppetMuppet · 26/04/2011 17:37

NL i realise that, that's why i added the unless...part

OP, by what you've now added I fear you have now become a victim of your own making. you've lied to the council to get temporary accommodation. You've called the Police in to prove to your OH that you were serious, I can't help but wonder if there is a lot more to this....

and no i'm not calling 'troll' before anyone jumps on me.

queenbathsheba · 26/04/2011 17:38

Mumof2

You must have a great deal of stress worrying about losing your home added to the fact that you have an ongoing health issue. You need to be honest with the social worker and explain how these stresses are effecting you and your partner.

It would also help you if you tell them honestly about your background as a child and how your parents relationship impacted upon your childhood. They will take this into consideration and they will understand how this effects you now. ie, you thought it was a good idea to flee to the hostel when you needed a break.

On a daily basis, how does your op cope with the financial worries and the fact that you are losing your home?

You mention that you have some support with your son, what sort of help do you get, is it enough and does it really help you?

You mention that your parents argued a lot, do you know why and was it very bad or did your mum over react?

mathanxiety · 26/04/2011 17:40

So you have been lying to people left and right, and on top of all that seem to have no idea that you are coming across here as a very defensive and maybe even evasive human cactus.

You sound incredibly immature and flaky and both you and the DP seem in dire need of a lot of growing up and learning how to deal with each other, with stress, and with other people.

Your relationship is volatile and you are willing to visit a lot of stress and upset on your young children. You sound to me like a parent who needs all the help she can get. But mostly it is your unfortunate children I am concerned about and I hope for their sakes that you will dump the massive attitude problem and start listening and co-operating.