MN Little Italy 12

[SunflowerNeedsSunshine]

Ciao, hello, welcome!

lol at knowing lots of useless stuff

Actually, I'm known for having known lots of useless stuff even before the internet

And what was your ds's problem Viggo, if you don't mind me asking? Or shall I email you?

I've been doing lots of chatting in RL, since moving back to Italy. I'm pleased to notice that people are still keen to chat.

will email you.

So here I was all evening and you were all obviously having rl ........ I forgive you all and love you all really ... Notte

Oh no rosa, I'm here. How's the poo situation? Is it getting any better with the milk?

I was pmsl with this thread. Do take time to read it when you can, I recommend it !

Hi all, sorry, been checking other forums for advice and spending (DP's) money.... I do feel guilty, especially seeing the current situation, but not guilty enough not to spend it . and it was my b-day present.... and I'm selling stuff too... and been looking for fabric and practicing with my sewing machine to make a mei tai (in the end I got an expensive wrap instead!). DP's putting a ban on daytime internet (though did use it today to look at fabrics and diy instructions) and with him home I managed to do some sewing I'd been meaning to do for a while... and I love it... got to go and get material for my project tomorrow!

anyway, hope you're all well, hopefully I'll come back when you're around!

hi all i'm back. i managed to read till the beginning of this thread and : didn't know about tomATOES and strawberries (which both dd had from very early on), had the eggs too. oh well.

speak leater.

ahhh I've cought up with it now.

quick input:

1. I do feel guilty about the time I'm on because it leaves me less time to do things I love, like reading. and everything is less organized. I'm not on it a lot, only here meybe an hour? I wish there were more hours on the day tbh.

2. I'm not going to talk about my minibreak as quite shaky but the dds especially dd1 had a ball, so great for her.

3)I have missed the whole LWT thing. I am bloody curious to go and investigate but it will mea the end of everything I need to do. Viggo direct me to the articles about it pls rather then toxic thread - I have enough toxic things at the moment.

4. I am reading la coscienza di zeno (which I didn't get it at all al ginnasio) and I am so surprised to absolutely love it! It seems like I read two different books. I wonder if anybody gets it at that age though - as it seems to require the knowledge that comes from of having gone through life.

5. sorry about ds franca. not much help. but interested to see what helps. I am sure we all at some point get to that stage were we want to be with the in/nasty crowd and ned up being nasty too. I've done that at 18, bit late and more worrying.

6. sunflower good news about dh

7. anybody knows about cognitive behaviour therapy?

8. rewarded myself with some chanel make-up at airport to compensate for the one you never got me franca and got dds lots of great books - pimpa included .

9. dh and I do mostly agree I must say and he is happy to let me leadfirst because I have more exp being with them all day and because I read more and study sit more. having said that he is calmer (not sure if he'd be if he were to be with them all day everyday though) than me and sometimes he gives great tips. like viggo said sometimes you need an ext point of view to assess a situation.

10. I am quite miserable inside. might email. nothing to do with the pippi's household.

basta must go, will catch up later.

Hi pippi, glad to see you back, but sorry you are feeling down .

I feel a bit better today as I rang a psychologist, they are going to call me back on tuesday (it's an asl) to give me and dh an apt, hopefully.

Rosa, how's dd2? I hope she's better.

Sunflower, I'm impressed by your sewing abilities and a bit too ! It must be quite therapeutic, I reckon.

She seems to be pooing less band this morning it was green yellow but she has just done another green one. This milk smells so sweet its quite yucky . Anyway she has to have another 2 days and then we will see.
Pippi whats up honey ??
Franca good news on the apt it might just help to get things sorted. We have a school meeting next thurs dh and I tossing up who is going .......
Sunflower good at you with the sewing I have a machine still in its box - given to me the xmas after dd was born and they wonder why it has never been opened !!!!

Have they ruled out the possibility of it being a bug Rosa? Sorry if you said so already, I've been a bit out of my mind lately, sorry .

Whoever gave you a sewing machine right after dd's was born? ... you're probably going to start using it in 5 yrs time

Is it an apt with the nursery or with her future scuola materna?

The paed thinks it is a bug not sure why she has it and nobody else though ...... I am not convinced 100% but agree that her green poo is a bit of a worry . She is in her cot whinging now as I don't think she wants a nap !
The meeting is at her nido I went to one and it was quite good and they brought up some good points on children in groups /discipline / but they got us doing these group ' games' things which are ancient as I did them with my staff sort of bonding .... All the mums are pretty bonded anyway !!!
It ws MIL and SIL who gave me the machine . I think that it was as I borrowed SIl one to do all the curtains in this place when we moved in .. Maybe she got fed up of lending it to me

oh rosa poor minirosa. I haven't got much help. I remeber dd2 going through a stage where she was pooing very often and really liquid green smelly poo while bf. I was a bit worried but left it and sorted itself out, sure it was a bug. do not take this as advise pls as 'I know nothing'!

wanted to add my two pence worth about the LWT thing. premetto that I have read very little about it at this point. Didn't think much about articles and though the teenagers were a bit OTT. However I haven't got teenagers so I cannot vouch for it. what I can vouch for, sadly, is the parent who refuses to help you and slams the door in your face. It has got the opposite effect to the one intended and is painful. at any age but particularly at that one. I do not know how I will act, maybe like that. but I think now, being both a parent and a child of someone, that the parents' home should always be open - obviously with rules etc. I am sorry to say this but a bit like 'the parabola del figliol prodigo' (I never thought in my childhood that I'll end up agreeing to this one!!). it is very damaging emotionally and practically to be locked out of your family ifswim.
okay to publish those articles anonimously if they were to saty that way. she should have not published the book.

maybe I should have posted on the thread itself???

must go and hang washings. evil MN!!!!!!

Rosa lol lol lol at the bonding exercises for the mothers !

I hope the poo stops for good. I used to suffer from diarrea as a baby, but, like most of the children in the 70s, I was formula fed, and my mum thinks that is the reason why. Also I was given spremuta at around 4 months

I'm always impressed by how violation of privacy is viewed in the Uk, I don't really find it so morally wrong that she published a book about her son's addiction, but then I'm a morally deranged Italian. Plus I haven't read any preview of the book nor read/wathced any interview. I do however think her parenting is crap, or at least what was written in the LWT pages. Plus, yes, I would never throw a 17 yr old out of the house. I think

Ah pippi forgot to say that I remember loving la coscienza di zeno and senilita' when I read it, I think in the last yr of Liceo.

and nmow off to cook dinner... evil mn!

you must have been a lot more advanced than me al liceo then.
must read senilita' as well after.

rosa: i admire your calmness - no green poo here, only after a broccoli feast. but i remember damon posting about her green poo ages ago...i would be in a&e, but i suppose the pediatra knows what he is talking about...strong hugs, i find it very hard babies being ill...

franca & damon: the writer is an airhead i think. i think it is wrong she published the book as it will make it difficult for him to get over the addiction, if it is an addiction, nothing wrong with un paio di canne a quell'eta. I think she is doormat of mum, letting the kids do whatever they feel like. It sounds like quite a disturbed household, everybody being violent with one another, swearing, if the parents are violent the kids will be too. Apparently the writer's parents kicked her out at that age too. Lots of complicated issues, but to blame skunk, i think it shows self=deception. Should not have got to the point of them kicking him out in the first place.

Franca: I admire you contacting an expert, I would do the same and i think it will come to a time when i will have to. Parenting is so hard these days, so much pressure i find. And all our personal issues of course come out to wreck havoc with the little ones.

i also didnt' get coscienza at all, and i studied it at uni. must retry.

oh, god, i have just started singing Senilita' to the tune of Romina and Albano;s Felicita! Povera me.

oh nooooo!!! now I've got the damn tune in my head!!! Vigoooooo!!!

oh, hello, we are obviously alternating between email and mnet.

i had a friend who used to sing "felicita e' frustarti la pelle con le bretelle, la felicita" povera me, povera me.

No developmetn on the Myerson front, just checked the thread.

Baby is screaming on and off, neither me nor dp have ntention of moving from the sofa. she stopped again. i think it is good for her lungs.

Xenia says this in the Myerson thread which i found so true and wanted to share with you: "ultimately what matters is your brain chemistry, your capacity for happiness, your avoidance of depression. "
It really struck a cord, didnt; expect it from her.
oFF now, see ya.

yes I know that feeling - of refusing to move.

ai miei tempi was 'felicita' e' mangiare un panino con dentro un bambino felicita'

I refuse to read that thread as I'll get sucked in for no reason as, let's face it, I do not feel I am in any place to judge those with teenagers as it is a difficult time in every family 1. because of the teenagers in quastions 2. because it coincides with the parents being in a hard patch - midlife crisis, kids leaving/not needing, etc.

hi everyone,

franca, sewing machine has only been used by Mum and mIL til now , but I'm determined to learn this time.

Viggo, that's so bad, as soon as I saw felicita' I strted singing (Pippi's version too ), you're bad, can't get it out of my head now!

Rosa, we often have green poo here, think it's s.thing to do with too much foremilk (like when they're under the weather and feed little and often), but could also be viral infection.

pippi, managed to speak to passaporti yesterday and they said to just go to the passport desk, they then send you to Aire and then you go back without queueing again

oh, I read Senilita' at liceo, summer holiday book, but I actually liked it in the end, might pick it up again when I go to italy.

right, I'm off now, have terrible sore throat on right side and been fluey/shaky all day, so going to steal some sofa space off DP

notte

lol at senilita' like felicita' (my version was much more volgare: felicita' e' scopare romina su una panchina e' la felicita'...)

Have to go to bed now, we'll be back tomorrow.
I agree with Pippi re suspending judgement on how to parent teenagers. And I agree with your xenia quote, viggo.

Goodnight you all ladies, and sunflower, if you learn how to sew I have lots of projects for you (I'm a fan of quirky prints)

I miss penthe