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to half wish this pregnancy isn't successful?

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hells1908 · 19/11/2011 23:24

Flame me.

Right, long winded rant alert.

I had my DS when I was 19 and at university so far from perfect but we pulled through, and he's about to go off to university himself. We've been through our trials and tribulations - his Dad, who was the college heartthrob, revealed himself to be a violent, alcoholic depressive. I bore the brunt of it, sometimes my DS. DS has Aspergers, which has brought us lows and many more highs. It's not been the most ideal of childhoods, and I have spent most of it as a lone parent, but managed to run various ad agencies in between, DS rocks, bless him, because I wouldn't have wished some of the things he's gone through on anyone, least of all my own flesh and blood.

Anyhows. New DP, have been together 18 months, and I am 5 months with twins. We've been through our own woods too. But now the very successful MD of a global company (sue me, it was sexy that he was powerful) is out of work, is trying very hard, but it's been 6 months and still nothing doing, I am the size of a small elephant because of the twins, knackered, and in a huge amount of pain (scans keep showing up OK and they keep saying it's just ligaments but it's crippling), but am working full time as a freelancer because each week is one month's rent on the new house we need to rent because this one is too small/run down (had bought it before I met DP as a romantic project to do after DS left home, tiny cottage, but fab location, I had a Beeny moment!)...oh, and I don't know whether it's that I'm taking out my ire at my lot on him, or hormones, or just...but simply don't find him sexy anymore and we haven't done the deed since August, and (yes, because he'll be picking up on that) most nights I go to bed and he drinks 3 bottles of wine (I'm not exagerating) and falls asleep on the sofa.

Unless he's been out at networking events - and it's absolutely right he shuold do that to help with the job search - but then he'll come in at 2am and breathe fumes over me and wake me up. I was actually sick the last time I did it; second trimester hasn't brought any respite!

So...ramble ramble. It's just the first time around with DS, when we lived in a damp basement and frogs got into his nursery, and I was at Oxford bloomin university and got a first despite everything, I made all sorts of Scarlett O'Hara promises to myself that next time, if there was one, it would be oh so different.

Yet I am stuck with an unemployed partner, in a rundown house, at work when I shouldn't be (I know that sounds lame, I know everyone gets pregnant and works, but even the hospital has been raising eyebrows), with DP drinking himself silly each night...and the final straw was tonight he's suggested packing DS off for New Year to his Dad's so we can have a babymoon which is a LOVELY idea, but last New Year his alcho Dad beat him up on NY and we had to drive to Oxford to rescue him and there is absolutely no way on earth I am letting that happen again. Ever.

AIBU? Spoilt? The twins were completely unplanned. But I am resenting every minute that I am not enjoying being pregnant. And, yes, I do have Bad Thoughts about how maybe it wasn't meant to be.

I just don't know how to begin to even broach this with him without it completely knocking his self esteem which would be so counter productive. But I get emails from the Pampers bloomin baby club saying 'you may feel like painting your nursery now, don't climb a ladder!' and it's like, what nursery? How did I get to this point?

Argh.

OP posts:
chipmonkey · 21/11/2011 15:56

Northern, people moan on MN all the time about things that seem totally trivial to me now. I agree that people are allowed to moan on MN about small things, ffs I'm sure I did plenty of it myself before Sylvie-Rose died and I'm sure I will again.

What is nasty is the horrible thread title. And then some fuckwit comes along and tells a bereaved mother to walk in the poor OP's shoes, when the OP is carrying two healthy babies and the bereaved Mum's baby has died. Would I walk in the OP's shoes? Damn right I would. At the end of the day, it's only money and assuming she's in the UK, the OP and her children won't starve and they will probably all live to a ripe old age.

And nickelbabe, why don't you walk in my shoes and then re-read the thread title and the OP?

iggi999 · 21/11/2011 16:31

Nicklebabe, AIBU would cease to exist if all anyone posted was "well I can't possibly judge if you are being reasonable or not until I've walked a mile in your shoes".

nickelbabe · 21/11/2011 16:43

i know that - but as she posted other stuff afterwards - one of the biggest problems of AIBU is that people don't read the thread

TheScaryJessie · 21/11/2011 16:43

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nickelbabe · 21/11/2011 16:45

Depression is a powerful thing - it can warp your perspective, and it can make the smallest matter an unsurmountable problem.

Moominsarescary · 21/11/2011 17:00

I've read the whole thread, what makes the thread title even more pathetic in my eyes is that its not even about the babies, it's about her being pissed off that her dh no longer has his high flying job and the money that goes with it

If shed have come on sounding seriously clinically depressed, worrying about not being able to feed or clothe her babies I could have sympathised to some extent.

She instead makes jokes aboutselling her house and claiming housing benifit, thinks shes in as bad a position as someone who has lost their child and moans about having to work.

TheScaryJessie · 21/11/2011 17:05

Anyway, I think senses of perspective have to come from inside. I am privileged enough never to have suffered deep grief, but I spent enough time fearing stillbirth of one or both twins to feel that it wouldn't be like just pretending the babies had never been conceived in the first place.

chipmonkey · 21/11/2011 17:27

sad10 I have messaged you but I'm not sure if I did the link correctly to our thread here You are more than welcome to come and join us.

euphrosyne · 21/11/2011 19:28

What springydaffs said earlier

provocative title + huge sense of entitlement + self-pitying posts=
OP YABU

Northernlurker · 21/11/2011 19:59

I don't think people need worry too much about her sense of entitlement. After the kicking she's had here she's unlikely to be back to trouble you with it anymore.

jasminerice · 22/11/2011 12:58

The OP didn't compare her situation to someone whose lost her unborn child. The other mother did that. Why should the other mother's feelings take precedence over the OP's? They are 2 completely different situations which bear no comparison whatsoever.

Sad10 has no place on this thread. Why did she come on and read and post?

Why do people have abortions? Every pregnancy is not an automatic joy. Some people on here seem very naive, blinkered and too wrapped up in their own feelings to be able to empathise with the OP.

chipmonkey · 22/11/2011 13:08

sad10 has as much right to be on this thread as anyone else. It's a public forum.

chipmonkey · 22/11/2011 13:12

And if you post in AIBU with an upsetting title, you are inviting replies from all sorts of people in all sorts of situations.

pink4ever · 22/11/2011 13:21

I am Shockthat people think op got a flaming-I thought she was let off very fecking lightly!

Op has her own home
op has a good job-though how exactly a good job for 20 years leaves you with a tiny hovel and pennies in savings is unclear
op or her dp have a boatHmm
op abd her dp had the moneu to spend on a trip down the amazon
her dp has enough ssvings to live on for a year
do has enough money to spend a shit load on wine every week

Forgive me is-as I posted previously-a mother who has had to bury 3 dcs-that my heart is not bleeding for her.

Moominsarescary · 22/11/2011 13:25

Who are you , the thread police?
If the op only wanted people to agree with her she came to the wrong place. I still say she wrote that thread for the shock factor and attention, if she doesn't like the attention tough

And what does abortion have to do with this?

pink4ever · 22/11/2011 13:27

moomin-completely agree. The more op posts the more I believe she is on a huge wind up.

Moominsarescary · 22/11/2011 13:39

You know I've been trying to figure out where I'd seen the op post before, I don't know how to link but have copied a paragraph

I think you are a surprisingly sane individual given I am only 4 months with twins and my DS is 17 YEARS and I am still feeling hard done by...(like aced an interview yesterday, for a contract till my due date which is about 10 squillion pounds and so cushty that it's exactly the right period, then cleared the entire house - we're selling it and moving somewhere bigger because of the twins on their way - to get new carpets laid today, DP had been at an interview in Paris

Yes I feel sooo sorry for her

jasminerice · 22/11/2011 13:41

Why are you all so fixated on the financial side of things? That's only one part of the problem.

And yes sad10 has a right to post just like the OP has every right to whatever thread title she wishes. But why on earth did sad 10 come onto this thread when it should have been obvious to her it was going to be upsetting for her. If she wanted sympathy for her situation, she wasn't going to find it here was she?

Moominsarescary · 22/11/2011 13:51

Yes of course, because the op should get sympathy where ever she posts and mothers who have lost children should stick to the bereavement topics

Odd as a box of frogs

whoneedssleepanyway · 22/11/2011 13:58

the more I think about this thread the more I think that the OP's title is f**king outrageous. the style of the posts is almost jovial and she certainly doesn't come across as someone seriously depressed, and she chucks this in the midst of all the wise cracks.

i remember having some dark thoughts when DD2 was a baby and I was in the midst of depression and there is no way I would have been able to come on and articulate and make jokes the way the OP has.

i am sorry but nothing about this rings true to me.

jasminerice · 22/11/2011 14:03

I've been depressed but could still crack jokes. Depression is not a single faceted condition and does not manifest identically in everyone.

And the OP does not sound depressed.

runningwilde · 22/11/2011 14:04

I came here as I expected the op to be someone who needed help. Instead I am with the many who think a lot of what she has posted is outrageous and yes, that title is awful and it is terrible that women sho have suffered loss have read this

jasminerice · 22/11/2011 14:06

Why is the read title outrageous? I had a friend who accidentally fell pregnant and ultimately had a miscarriage. She told me she was very relieved when she miscarried as she did not want another child. Is that outrageous too?

wifey6 · 22/11/2011 14:08

I would like to add how upsetting I find this title & post...as a mummy & also ttc another. No amount of bone-idle man would ever make me wish my child/children were not here! There are women who crave desperately to fall pregnant & have a successful pregnancy...they long for a healthy baby...I know as I was/ am one of those women. AngrySad

Moominsarescary · 22/11/2011 14:11

She is 5 months pregnant, if she didn't think she could cope then she could of had a termination months ago, not be wishing death on them now

she has admitted later in the thread she realy doesn't want anything to happen to them

So like I've said attention seeking shitty thread title for the shock factor