How do autism bashing threads make you feel?

[BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation]

Haven't had one in a while, but there's a pretty representative one going on in AIBU atm.

How do these make you feel?

I feel angry and go kind of hot and cold inside. I know it's not worth arguing on them anymore, but they're referring to me and my ds when they're saying the terrible things they're saying. Autism is who I am as a person, ergo I'm a terrible person who doesn't deserve to exist. I deserved to be abused and drugged when I was a kid. I deserved to be bullied throughout school and in adulthood. I'm a nuisance, a waste of space, a burden, someone who shouldn't be treading the earth. People hate me because of what I am.

Sure, people should have a space to talk about how their kid's difficulties affect them, but should they be allowed to generalise about the condition?

Autistic people who can express themselves, like us, are truly despised and dismissed. We're the lowest of the low by not following the narrative of autism is awful.

I feel bad for ds because this is how people feel about autistics

It's my birthday today. A reminder that I shouldn't have ever been born.

Oh yes.
My kids have been tormented - I would go so far as to say tortured at times by NT kids.

I've got genuine hatred for some of them. The cruelty they display is something I cannot comprehend.
And yet they're the so called 'normal' ones.

My kids are worth a million more than the utter bastards who made their school days hell.

I deeply regret sending them to mainstream. They had ehcp and full time 1:1 but somehow these bastard brats still got to them.

I advise my eldest now to only seek out other people with autism. I don't trust NTs to treat him with respect. I'm sorry. But I just don't.

I say my eldest and not both because he's the one at uni. My youngest has support workers and is not in education or coming into contact with them.

It's a nightmare seeing them go through bullying and harm. I was full of rage. I wanted to physically hurt the people doing it.

It's hard not to feel that way.
Each of mine have been through periods of feeling suicidal and of self harm.

NTs did that to them.

It's hard not to feel that way.
Each of mine have been through periods of feeling suicidal and of self harm.

😥 I understand

Fucking hell. Why are we having to justify anyone why we feel persecuted.

This is our place. Can we please just be allowed to share our feeling? Every fucking thread someone comes and tells us how to think. I’m so done with this.

Well done to the derailers. Well done. You’re doing exactly - absolutely exactly - what happens every fucking day for me. Leave me alone.

Scautish If you read the thread you would see I have posted on this thread I have autism. I have posted about my feelings. I posted on the thread the OP is discussing. I also happen to think autism is a disability. Yet I and others are being made to feel unwelcome, being called ableist, offensive, uneducated for having differing opinions despite being ND ourselves.

As IncompleteSenten posted, differing viewpoints can coexist alongside each other.

My DS is only 8 and a very quiet, sensitive boy. We were very worried about secondary school as DH was relentlessly bullied and beaten every day when he was there. So we sent DS to jujutsu/taekwando classes as soon as he was old enough. Figured out it'd give him a fighting chance when he got there.

Sadly it didn't even take that long. He was just 7 when he got cornered and set upon by two year 6s. DS is also tiny for his age and was absolutely terrified. At first. Then his training kicked in and he realised he was the one in charge of the situation. The liitle shits then went crying to the teacher because they weren't prepared for a little, quiet autistic kid to actually be physically stronger and able to kick their arses.

But at 7 years of age FFS.

Bless him @bringbackcoffeecreams what a brave little boy. Its heartbreaking isn't it.

@BringBackCoffeeCreams I like the sound of your plucky ds 😀

Yes, autism is a disability. For the majority of autistics it's a disability caused by society.

@BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation

Yes, autism is a disability. For the majority of autistics it's a disability caused by society.

I agree with this because when I'm totally alone, I have no issue being autistic at all. I'm not uncomfortable in the slightest then.

Some on this thread, the thread on AIBU you are talking about and on MN in general have shot down posters who post they see ASD as a disability and autism (again, the condition, not the person) as a negative.

Not everyone thinks autism is only a disability because of society’s failures to be accommodating, some think they are disabled by difficulties directly stemming from difficulties in the triad of impairments. Or to use ofwarren’s post, many autistic individuals do have an ‘issue’ with being autistic and are ‘uncomfortable’ (not my words) when alone, not around others.

Posted too soon, and it is fine people having differing views, but the views should be accepted as just as valid and not called offensive, uneducated, ableist etc.

I agree with this because when I'm totally alone, I have no issue being autistic at all. I'm not uncomfortable in the slightest then.

This is it.

@BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation

Yes, autism is a disability. For the majority of autistics it's a disability caused by society.

Completely agree with this - I had to go into the city today which should have been fine on a Sunday as it would be nice and quiet, and I live by the terminus. However 3/4 services were suddenly cut overnight and the remaining service only had 4 coaches, so turned my journey into hell because of other passengers' loud, selfish behaviour. No social distancing, crowding onto an already full train, people kept touching and bumping me in my seat, and I needed a valium just to make it all the way there in one piece. Partly the TOCs fault but also partly other people's selfishness by not caring about anyone else's comfort or safety.

@Imitatingdory

Some on this thread, the thread on AIBU you are talking about and on MN in general have shot down posters who post they see ASD as a disability and autism (again, the condition, not the person) as a negative.

Not everyone thinks autism is only a disability because of society’s failures to be accommodating, some think they are disabled by difficulties directly stemming from difficulties in the triad of impairments. Or to use ofwarren’s post, many autistic individuals do have an ‘issue’ with being autistic and are ‘uncomfortable’ (not my words) when alone, not around others.

Yes, my daughter for example. Her sensory issues with regards to clothes, sounds etc affect her badly regardless of whether anyone is around or not.

I’ve spent pretty much my entire life assuming I’m a slightly quirky NT person. My Dh was diagnosed aged 47. My dd aged 12 and Ds (finally) aged 14 after a long battle.

I think life is harder now. When I was young there were not so many distractions, schools were more ordered places (even a shit comp like mine) and you knew where you stood. Now you walk into a primary classroom and it’s an explosion of goodness knows what with noise, kids sitting in all directions and no routine.

And I’m totally, totally convinced knowing what I do now that my mum is autistic too. (The rest of my family agree).

But surely if you are alone you would control your environment so that the clothing and lighting don't annoy you?

Clothing and lighting have not always existed. The autistic mind has existed prior to modern society. Prior to all societies.

@ofwarren

But surely if you are alone you would control your environment so that the clothing and lighting don't annoy you?

Sorry, that was for comefromaway

@BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation

Clothing and lighting have not always existed. The autistic mind has existed prior to modern society. Prior to all societies.

True All I know is that when I have no interference from other humans I'm at my most comfortable. I don't wear itchy, scratchy clothes, I don't sit under bright lights, I don't listen to loud noises, I stim as much as I need and I research the topics that interest me. The issues happen when I need to deal with others in some way.

@ofwarren

But surely if you are alone you would control your environment so that the clothing and lighting don't annoy you?

She can hear the water rushing through the pipes in the wall. She can be freezing cold but any items of clothing causes sensory distress.

It sometimes stops her from doing the things she loves.

All I know is that when I have no interference from other humans I'm at my most comfortable. I don't wear itchy, scratchy clothes, I don't sit under bright lights, I don't listen to loud noises, I stim as much as I need and I research the topics that interest me. The issues happen when I need to deal with others in some way.

Same for me.