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frumpygrumpy · 15/03/2007 18:34

PMSL

I didn't want to be the one to do it! I promise next time I will sellotape my fingers.

Working on it dingdong

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Kelly1978 · 30/04/2007 10:43

oh poor you, 1becomes3, you really are going through it aren't you. I do hope things settle down for you now. You must be exhausted. Well done for getting through it all. Glad to hear that dd is out of hospital and dd2 is ok.

estar · 30/04/2007 12:09

Oh my gosh, 1b3, I'm amazed you even managed to get on here to tell the tale! Can't believe all the things that are happening to you at the moment. In some ways, when it's other stuff, like children breaking things etc, you get to a point where things are so ridiculous you end up falling about laughing - dh and I have done that plenty of times on our worst days and said 'if we told people about the day we've had, no-one would believe us!' But you can't really laugh when it includes trips to the hospital and sick children

Whichever way, it brings you closer together! (and other cliche sayings to make you feel better ).

Hope your sanity is still intact xxxx

largeginandtonic · 30/04/2007 12:23

Poor you 1b3, what a nightmare time for you all. I really hope you have a better week this week. You just cant make up stuff like that, some days are beyond a joke. Im sure your dd will pick up soon, kids are so resillient.

Mars hope you have packed and have a fab time in St Lucia, i may creep in to your suitcase Sure you wouldnt notice an extra 12 and a half stone in your luggage allowance.....

Only 12 days till section day, am really hoping he stays put till then. Dont fancy another emergency section with bells on.

How is everyone else?

Kelly1978 · 30/04/2007 13:41

I'm not having a good day. The dts are running circles around me. dt2 has chewed the laptop wire, and somehow snuck back past me out the front to get locked out in the front garden. dt1 pinched my lunch when I wasn't looking and emptied his beaker into the changing bag.

Planned to meet a mnetter this afternoon, and take the boys to the park and now my bloody car won't start! I think it is probably petrol - the fuel gauge is dodgy, but might be the battery, I'm really not sure. Aargh!

I've got to get to oxford tomorrow, it better work when I put petrol in it!

Kelly1978 · 30/04/2007 13:44

oh, and I broke an earing trying to fix the laptop wire

estar · 30/04/2007 20:12

I've always thought I should write a book about what it's like with twins (no reason to explain to you lot why I'd call it 'You've got your hands full') but I'm beginning to think it might be too tame once I've heard everybody else's stories! Maybe we should collaborate and write a chapter each of our worst (or funniest/craziest/record-breaking?) days. It'd be enough to make the whole nation sterile!

oooggs · 30/04/2007 20:46

1B3 - hope things are improving hun xx

LargeG&T - on the 'section' countdown lets hope he waits

Mars - have a fab holiday

dt2 is really suffering with colic - any ideas please?

Should I be trying for a routine???? They are one month old - what should I be doing???

TIA

largeginandtonic · 01/05/2007 09:55

A routine OOOGS..... ummmmmmm........mine just found their own bythe time they were about 8 months old. I was too tired and stressed to make one up, they were by no means attended to 24\7 though. You simply cant do it with 2 and especially not with 3 like you. They soon learnt to wait for food, nappies and general comforting. They were very good by 8 months. One of them (cant remeber which ) had colic, he used to scream from about 4 till 9 each evening. It was hellish, i remember pacing the cold Lincolnshire streets with them wrapped up in the buggy hollering as i left the house and hollering as i came back in Oh the memories.....

Bloody good idea writing a chapter each in the book, pretty sure the need for vasectomies\strilisation would increase dramatically

Of course there are some crazy people out there who keep on having children, despite having twins...... >

frumpygrumpy · 01/05/2007 19:53

estar, I'm with you on the book it must only be sold to those who have already had twins though......under the counter in a brown bag

Oooooooooooogs, right, colic first. My DD1 and also DT2 suffered with it. I thought it was my imagination/useless mothering with DD1 and only when I had the DTs did I realise.......I got some herbal drops for DT2 which I popped in a bottle with a little formula (this might not work if you are exclusively b/feeding, I can't remember if you are.....). I had a consultation with a herbalist and she made it up with soothing things and digestive things and marshmallow is the only one I can remember. I'm not sure it helped but I was willing to try and it certainly didn't hinder. What did work really, really well was cranio-sacral therapy. Also referred to as cranio osteopathy. Its a hands on (barely) treatment which some osteopaths do in a baby/child clinic. It is soothing and calm and the osteopath we used had an amazing deep voice. It might sound mumbojumbo (be sure to get a recommended osteopath or at least from a very reputable place) but MY GOD it made a massive difference to my DT2 after the first session. He only had two sessions and it didn't go completely but I would say he was 90% better. Really worth it IMHO.

Secondly, routine. It is worth trying at this stage although I can't say that mine worked better until at least 3 months and hugely better at 5 months.

The hardest part of my day was/is evenings. I would give DD her tea at 4.30pm. DTs had feeds.

DD went in the bath 5.30pm. DTs lay kicking on gym, change mat or swinging in the swing or rocking in bouncy chair. While I bathed, dried and pyjama clad DD.

DD 'helped' or played or watch TV while I bathed DTs separately in baby bath. I would rotate the DTs. One on the change mat awaiting bath, one in the swing. Pop first into bath, lay other on change mat nappy free. Wash and dry first and put in swing (by now crying for next feed). Turn swing on to medium power while wash and dry next one. Whack power up to full if DT in swing is inconsolable.

Swap DTs and feed or wake and feed and put other in swing. Shove first one into crib regardless of awake or sleep or crying and aim to get back to that baby asap. Feed other and do same. Leave both in crib(s) far away from DD so she can have bedtime story in peace.

Finally go back to DTs and re-settle/top up breastfeed whoever needs it.

In my house, everyone had to wait at some point because everyone deserved their little bit of time just for them. There is no easy way and no right or wrong way.

Remember, however you get through this bit is fine, you are only human, you are doing your best and the DTs will not remember. xxxxx

How did it go Kelly? Car working? If your fuel guage is buggered try re-setting the mileage everytime you fill the tank. You can then roughly gauge how many miles before you need to re-fill.

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frumpygrumpy · 01/05/2007 19:56

1B3, hell honey!!! How is life treating you today?

LG&T tell me about your body and all that is happening to it

HM, where are you?

dingdong, of course, Leslie Phillips, a LEGEND That is exactly the tone in which I think of you

Overrun, tkb, leo, charleymouse, triplets, et al, hello and come in, I have wine and baked potatoes.......

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frumpygrumpy · 01/05/2007 20:00

postal carte to Mars.....

Dear Mars,

Are you in gay Paris or St. Lucia? I am in the spare room/study. Are you having fun darling? I'm having 35% fun. Have you worn a bikini all day? I have worn second-day jeans and a beautiful top with a hole in the front all day. Are you dancing with gorgeous men? I am having illicit thoughts about dangerous back alley liaisons with gorgeous men.

Love Steve

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Kelly1978 · 01/05/2007 21:15

Steve is gay??! And I though paolo was jsut a cover up!

It was the car battery in the end. I stuck dt2 in there while washing it at the weekend and he turned the interior lights on and I forgot to check them after Seems fine now and I managed to get ds1 to his eeg today thank god.

And I've fixed the pram again...I think!

I should really reset the fuel counter, but it depends on my driving as to mileage. I can be a little impatient at times.

Ooooogs, when I had the dts, I thought about routine but that was about as far as I got. With two I think you often have to jsut go with the flow and try to stay laid back. It depends on what works for you though. I certainly didn't have any kind of bedtime routine or bath mine everyday.

Leoladyofleisure · 01/05/2007 21:48

Hello Frumpy, wine and baked potatoes sounds looooooooooovely! But its going to have to be a quick one because one of 2 things will happen in the next half hour, either i will fall asleep or the babies will wake up wanting feeding!

1b3, I am so sorry you have been having such a bad time , I hope soon things settle down and you have time to enjoy all your dcs soon.

When is Mars back? I need a bit of help iwht feeding. Happy belated

Lots of love to everyone else (especially LG&T)!

Everything has been going really well here, I am really enjoying the babies so much so that I keep considering that maybe I won't go back to owrk in January, but when i think about being on my own 5 with ds1 (with or without the twins), I'm afraid I start to get very nervous! He is exhausting! To my relief very much a daddy's boy at the moment though!
Both babies have doubled their birth weight in 2 months (is that normal? the doctor got very, very excited about it) and are really lovely fatties with michelin man thighs !
I'm also gaining weight, but only a little bit bothered about it, I am much more bothered about the state of my stomach, I thought it would start to improve by now but I still look 6 months pregnant and have a huge hole in the muscles above my belly button where my intestines stick out !

Uuuurm, what is babymooning??????

Leoladyofleisure · 01/05/2007 21:49

....birthday Mars!

largeginandtonic · 01/05/2007 23:04

Evening all

FG my body is good.Am sat ina hospital bed with possible waters breaking situation, sounds ominous......however i am very happy as baby has gone head down!!!!!! So no section for me, yipeeeeeee

Have to stay in to see if any more fluid comes out, nice huh?

I added my gargantuan bump to my profile thingy on sunday and some wedding piccies from last year.So sweep stake on baby size? Hugo was 9lb...........

Cant wait to have some wine, and pate, blue cheese, brie, blue steak, mmmmmmmmm

largeginandtonic · 01/05/2007 23:12

Fluid and\or baby.....

Have shaved my legs and smothered myself in body lotion, the lotion is for DH, should he have to dash here in the night to mooing\bellowing crazed wife, he will be distracted by nice smell of body lotion

Leo the babies sound so lovely, i got to feed OOOGS little girlie twin the other day. She was soooooo cute, canyou be broody at 38+wks prg?

FG save me some wine

Twinmummyx2 · 02/05/2007 11:38

Lg&t.....how are things going?????

When is babs actually due??

My guess for baby weight is.....9lb 4ozs!!!!

me.x

frumpygrumpy · 02/05/2007 14:04

Ok I'm doing it blind (oo-er Mrs) and haven't yet looked at your updated bump........I'm going for a tickle under 9lb, say 8lb 13oz..... I know, I know, I am controversial

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frumpygrumpy · 02/05/2007 14:06

Kelly I just re-read my post

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Leoladyofleisure · 02/05/2007 14:38

lg&t, how lovely that you fed Ooogs baby. Want one of mine to feed until yours is born !

my thread cos Mars isn't around to help

Leoladyofleisure · 02/05/2007 14:44

Wow LG&T, that's quite some bump! The photos look great its just such a shame they are so tiny.
I bet 4100kg.

frumpygrumpy · 02/05/2007 20:21

Leo I just posted on your thread. I'm not much help I'm afraid..... FWIW, I BF my DD1 for 4 months but the DTs for 6 weeks and just crumbled after that, introducing formula feeds here and there. I didn't seem to have enough time to just sit and feed, I felt I had to rush each feed and get on with the next bit of the day. I have great parents and DP but no-one who was as passionate as me about BF so not quite enough support there. Regrettable but just how it was at the time. There is no right and wrong, just whatever works x.

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devondoris · 02/05/2007 20:58

FG - you're right, you have got to do what works. I've just posted on Leo's thread (thanks for the link!), but it's always what worked for me, not necessarily what someone else actually needs. I often don't post because I don't want to sound dogmatic, and as if my way is the only way! Oh dear, does that make sense?

Oooooogs - talking of which, I'm all for routines, and cranial oestopathy for colic - worked wonders for DT2. Think you're south west-ish - if you're near enough to Bovey Tracey I can highly recommend the osteopath here! She's at Still Point House and is wonderful. She kept me all together during my pregnancy too, and put me back together afterwards! DD was colicky and I thought it was just her, but having worked out about feeding and babies needing time to digest I think that actually I was feeding her too frequently because she wanted the comfort. DT2 tried to be as bad as she was, but didn't quite make it because (I think) of the routine and the lovely osteopath. I left 2.5 hours between feeds and we got into a fairly good feeding routine after three weeks or so. Also had lots of help from friends, who would come and cuddle DT2 while I slept in the evening.

Why do children make you lose your humour, by the way? I'm sure I used to be amusing and I don't feel like that at all now.

frumpygrumpy · 02/05/2007 21:09

Hi Doris, my sense of humour almost died after the DTs were born. But it loves me and I love it and we waited for each other. We are in the courting stage again, skirting round each other, trying out new stuff and just seeing if we can find a new, fresh path.

You're usually so up my darling, and it might be the first ever time I've seen you use a on your post.....talk honey......

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devondoris · 02/05/2007 21:26

Hello lovely! I am up really, just feeling sad that my humour is not what it used to be when I was young and single and went to pubs and wasn't old enough to walk into one and say, "Can't wait for the smoking ban," all sniffy even though it was the first time I'd been out this year... And the words don't come out right on here. Also pants DH not pulling his weight quite, although I do understand about his early mornings and the like, but I went to my salsa class last night and when I got back at midnight the washing was still to be done, the washing up, the cleaning of the boys' bottles, the measuring of milk (for their one feed of the day so real hardship to do it!), the putting away of the shopping... I could go on!

I think I'm quite good at letting this stuff wash over me, but as I would still like to be married in 20 years' time when the children hopefully leave home, I think I need to feel less like the unpaid help and 24/7 childminder. The odd game of pirates would help, but we haven't been near each other since Jan 26th 2006 - I think you can work out the maths on that one!!

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