d'ya every wonder how life carried on and on and on.....

[Kelly1978]

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Too much waffling, you know who you are

I jsut wanted to psot to say good luck hm, hope you can hold out, but it really sounds like things are moving. Jsut think you could be cuddled upw ith your baby by tomorrow morning!

Glad to hear dt2 is better, fg.

well done Kelly for starting a new thread and thanks for the good luck! Still getting discomfort every 10 mins lasting about 30 seconds but it has been like that since 4.30am with no change and have had another show. Does anyone think I should ring the hospital having had a show three days running or is it unimportant?

Anyway hope everyone else is having a good day!! And yes I do have people with me (from the other thread!) = my parents are here today until about 6 so will only have a couple of hours alone before DH comes home from Glasgow.

Dont worry about the show HM, it can go on like that for days. It just shows you were well plugged, and now the plug is on the way out..hooray!

Its fab must give Mars a huge thanks for it. I have shared it with my due in may thread all attributed to you of course Mars! Lulumama has it too now.

Glad you're not on your own hm, I don't know about ringing hospital, I was reluctant when I woke in middle of night, had a show, felt cramps, DH made me ring, went in and was 5cms dilated so you never know...

oooh thanks for the cake LG&T! Will try not to worry about the show although it is coming thick and fast (as it were, quite literally) now, like blobs of brown jelly. Oh sorry, were you eating your lemon drizzle cake when I said that!! Apologies, I know I can be gross.

Parents have taken the DTs for a walk to the duck pond in their wellies so have been left for a blissful hour to do nothing. DTs have decided at 2 years old to give up their daytime sleep which is a bit annoying as it used to be a nice hour and a half when I could sit down and watch tv, do some mumsnetting or read a magazine...no longer to be! My Dad makes me laugh, he needs to pick his car up from the garage and said he would walk there (3 miles from here) as he didnt think my Mum should leave me on my own! Not sure what he thinks will happen in the 15 minutes they would be out!

Ouch! We got booted out of our old room but this one is so much bigger and I'm glad to see we have those swanky leather (great for baby vomit wipe off and HM show wipe off ) recliners for when one of us needs a bit of shut eye. Here we are....... I bought cashmere throws for swaddling ourselves in when we feel the need. (I know, cashmere, a bit extravagant but it is virtual cashmere) .

Hi Overrun! The slap up meal sounds right up my street. Glad you enjoyed.

Hi Kelly, thanks for dragging the couches through.

Lapinrose....I like.....I was recently on a thread where earlybird was posting and I did think it was you. I thought you'd just dieted and lost your s.

HM oh wow, things are moving along. I sincerely hope you have this baby when you hope for. Who will go with you if HD can't be present? How do you feel about that? My dad missed my birth, he was parking the car I still love him dearly.

Re: favouring twins....mmmn a tricky one. I don't favour either of mine but I do have very different relationships with them. In terms of personality DT2 is very like DD and DT1 is very like me. I find DT1 very hard work sometimes (perhaps a little taster of how hard I am to live with as I know I'm hard to live with) and I do worry that she might feel left out in some way. My DT2 and DD are both very affectionate and outwardly gregarious children. My DT1 stands back, takes everything in, and calculates how much or how little she wants to be a part of it. She doesn't always want to oblige and wave goodbye to people or chat (she is not as clear a talker as DT2 or DD at the same age), but she is far from unfriendly and has a very quiet, funny sense of humour when she decides to unleash it. She is choosy. What I'm trying to say is that I have to work harder to have the same relationship with her that I have with my other 2 children. I could leave her to herself many times, easily, but I know I have to keep being smiley and giving out the same kisses and cuddles and stories so she doesn't feel left out. This is hard as she can be very, very stubborn and cuts off her nose to spite her face (throws herself down in such a tantrum that she hurts herself then continues to bang her head off the floor out of anger at herself). My god, she is like me .

Well, you didn't ask for that story book!! In short, I'm trying to say that yes, I do have different relationships with the DTs and its not easy. I'm sure it will change and keep changing.

There you go, bored you out of labour .

oooh FG, virtual cashmere - divine!! As long as i dont get any of my show on it, we will be fine!

If HD cant come with me, my best friend is primed and ready, infact she wants it to happen when he isnt around as she wants to be part of it!

Thanks for the advice re the difference in teh twins.....I dont really favour one over the other, it is just that one of them is going through a "phase" I think which makes him difficult to cope with in certain situations.

Anyway, its 2.15pm, only another 6 hours until DH/HD lands at Leeds Bradford.......keeping my legs crossed!

How frustrating was that? Went to post and it had the cheek to say it was full! lol Right... now to catch up and post!

HM... keep that bum up in the air. That will keep baby off the pelvis. Keep doing your normal jobs etc. I'm reasonably sure that you'll be able to "hold" on to baby until HD arrives back. Have you let him know that you are contracting?

Right now you are probably dilating gently which is good. I think that whilst you are worried HD won't make it back on time your body will probably (only probably mind) stay closed.

Now.... just checking my watch to see whether or not I'll make it before HD lol...... sadly my client has also lost her plug and so the pair of you could give birth at the same time.

Above all.......... relax! If HD misses the birth then make him by you Tiffany diamonds to make up for it.

Love this new room. Here are some fuschia pink cushions and some lovely bean bags for the pregnant ones amongst us.

Like the name Lapinrose... but what does it mean?

Off to wrap some pressies and pretend to do my French coursework. DTs back at 3 so not long now.

Must put up some pictures. Walls look a bit bare in this room.

LG&T any cake left? I'll even settle for crumbs.

I'm feeling (and looking) like a walrus and still a few weeks to go. SPD getting worse and running to the loo every two hours at night is leaving me exhausted. DH has no idea how I feel (I'm sure he thinks I'm putting it all on) and snapped at me this morning for lazing in bed an extra 10 mins while he got the DC ready.

I'm starting to wonder if I should opt for section just to get a rest in hospital.
It'd solve the xmas woes too.

HM - Hope HD makes it back in time.

Thinking of you HM! That's very sweet of your dad to be so thoughtful!

Mars - it will be 25 weeks on Wednesday O:!

The beanbags are great, anyone mind if I pig 2 or 3 of them? Afterall HM hardly needs hers anymore does she. I've brought in a couple of bf pillows in return!

Feeling great myself today, but i must be on happy pregnancy hormones as ds is really not well at all, bad cold and horrible bronchitis. The doctor has given him a whole new range of drugs to try to clear it !
And worse I am really, really feeling for my bf who had her baby yesterday. The baby was born with the cord twice around the kneck, and had pooed before birth (forget what its called), the baby is in scbu for observation and stopped breathing briefly last night. She has not managed to feed him so he is being given glucose. I really love this woman so much and it hurts me to know what she is going through. (she had a fab birth with her dd so was completely unprepared for something going wrong). Anything reassuring I can say to her? Any tips to give her with the feeding? Is it normal to give babies glucose in a case like this?

Gosh leo, I feel terrible for moaning on.
Your poor bf. I have no advice but keep us updated on how the little one is doing.

Nice to see you Piximon, just crossed posts.
at your dh, mine is very insistent that I stay in bed and rest as much as possible and I'm more than a few weeks behind you.

Please don't consider that a cs will give you a good rest in hospital, if you spend longer in hospital it is because its a more traumatic experience for your body and takes longer torecover from and due to extra risks you need medical observation for longer. In my experience (others may be different and I can't personally compare it to a vb), having a cs knocks you sideways for weeks and weeks. Its a major operation, you will need lots of painkillers (I had morphine) afterwards which means extra demands on your body to break them down. Your body has been through major surgery which needs a lot of energy to recover from.
On the ohter hand if a cs is needed for good medical reasons then its really not that bad!

Leo- ideally am hoping to avoid all intervention if possible so I can get straight home with the 6 hr discharge period. My local hospital is so awful but best of the two that I hate the thought of being left alone in there.

DH would quite like it as I'd be in hospital with the twins, mum would be at my house with DC and he'd have less to do.

Piximon, phew! Sorry if I was a bit too serious, the cs thing is on my mind a lot at the moment and I guess a bit of an emotional subject!

I just checked out the role call thread to see how many children you have, I hope at least your dh will take responsibility for looking after the cats and rabbit while you are in hospital !

Only Pixi as your doula I'm not going to let that happen am I? lol

Now leo... is there any reason why baby can't be brought to mum? Please tell her not to distress herself. She will still be able to breastfeed if that's what she wants to do.

Let me know how they get on and I'll give you some tips for mending the bonding process.

HM........ bum up!

Now has anyone seen my hammer and nails. Need to pop the pictures up before it gets to busy and the newborns start to arrive.

Knowing DH the pets'll have to fend for themselves, the cats will ok (poor rabbit)!

cant put bum in air Mars, DTs are playing at diving off the coffee table - heeeelllllpppp! Mum due back from dropping of my Dad any minute so will reposition myself then!

Leo I think its called meconium staining (not sure unless I dig out my big dusty book). My little brother was born in a similway way and he was such an unsettled boy for the first year of his life. My mum was never sure if it was his delivery (he had to be flushed out to clean his body as he had swallowed/inhaled the poo during birth) or whether he had (looking back) undiagnosed reflux. He was in special care for a couple of nights. He cried constantly and brought up most of his feeds. The HV at the time said it was colic but now that my mum and I have experienced colic (my DD had it and my DT2 had it worse than her) she feels my little brother being much worse. It made him a clingy small boy until he was about 3 or 4 as he seemed to only trust her to solve his pains. After that horrid story, I'm pleased to say he turned into a wonderfully happy and sociable boy and was a teenage breeze compared to his big sister .

I hope things calm down for her really soon. I found those first weeks after having a baby very traumatic (didn't know if I was coming or going) without having that to deal with too.

I wish I'd known Mars then......

similway? similar way

Mars - she has spent the whole day with him, but they are keeping him where he is for observation. I am going ot see her this evening so will find out how things have been going this afternoon. I'm not sure what will happen when she does get the feeding going (she will definitely want to bf) if he is still in the scbu, it would be very poor if they don't bring him down to her to feed at night.

I'll update more later, I am sure any tips I can pass onto her would be gratefully recieved.

Frumpy - flushed out , poor little boy. Not a good start to life is it !

Tell her to focus on going home. It sounds normal to give him glucose (I'm no expert) to keep his blood sugar regulated. He will be out very, very soon and the natural bonding, cuddling and swaddling will take over and, whilst she will always remember these few days, if she can make the going home time as calm and enjoyable as possible (lots of helpers to hold him if he is a bit unsettled) then this will overtake the memory of his bumpy start.

She needs to look at this as a blip and move on as soon as his health does or else she will allow it to spoil those early days of wallowing in just ooing and ahhing at her new son. Don't mean to sound like I'm lecturing I just feel for her and wish she could be cosied up in one of our cashmere throws with her sleepy baby on her chest. Good luck to her.

Tell her to focus on going home. It sounds normal to give him glucose (I'm no expert) to keep his blood sugar regulated. He will be out very, very soon and the natural bonding, cuddling and swaddling will take over and, whilst she will always remember these few days, if she can make the going home time as calm and enjoyable as possible (lots of helpers to hold him if he is a bit unsettled) then this will overtake the memory of his bumpy start.

She needs to look at this as a blip and move on as soon as his health does or else she will allow it to spoil those early days of wallowing in just ooing and ahhing at her new son. Don't mean to sound like I'm lecturing I just feel for her and wish she could be cosied up in one of our cashmere throws with her sleepy baby on her chest. Good luck to her.

There is cake lrft piximon, the dc have not devoured it all yet! (or me...ive had 3 cubes so far) It is a big cake though, perfect for sharing.

HM i hope you are ok, it wont be long now and your dh will be home.

So sorry for your bf leogaela, she must be worried. I managed to bf the twins and they were in scbu for 3 months, so tell her not to worry about that. The hosp will only be giving the baby glucose for energy as his little body will be fighting. Its meconium that he will have most likely inhaled at birth, it can make them poorly but not for long. Usually a little rest on scbu and some energy is all the baby needs to turn a corner and be fine.

Am loving the new room, its fab. I have some toys for the sound prof creche that we have.... with built in nanny of course!

Hi all, I wish I had had you to talk to during my pregnancys Marslady. Piximon, hang in there, HM hang in there
hello frumpygrumpy, food was yummy. Lega, sorry to hear about your friend. My ds1 was born after passing meconium, was in Neonatal unit for a day, but is now fine. Fingers crossed