Botwatch 87!!! Yes we are still battling MLMs! When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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Welcome one and all to the latest thread in a long series

We are here to expose the huns and bots who lie, exaggerate and prospect victims who don’t realise that the income claims and aspirational lifestyle are unachievable

Yawn when she takes her dress off.....

Such obvious shilling - she claims every patch she’s tried has had instant amazing results - and she’ll make money if you buy some

I noticed the one photo yawns guro took of her has been removed. No wonder when you saw the look on yawns face. Me thinks that the guru is now actually taking the piss out of yawn and yawn doesn't like it.

It's not that long ago since her Menopause club/hub where FL was the answer to all things menopause. So she's now saying the well woman range didn't work and you need a planty plaster?

That photographer really isn't good. Yawn is pretty photogenic but the photos are not flattering. There is one on her FB where she has her back to the camera (alongside another glowing testimonial from Yawn's imagination). It looks odd.

Another photo, of Yawn sitting on a kitchen worktop, has been tidied up to the point she looks like she is floating.

Lastly, the film of the three coaches laughing together in a way that somehow manages to get across just how superficial it all is, this clip hasn't had enough editing and is almost indecent as far as Yawn is concerned.

Considering the likely cost of this cliched and technically poor photoshoot versus the likely trickle of money she is making, it seems poor value and a very obvious ego massage for all three, playing a game of Let's Pretend.

Definitely an exercise in ‘Star for a day’

prob why Yawn’s nose was put out of joint - she wasn’t the only client of her coach there and therefore didn’t receive enough narcissistic fuel

That video is so false and cringe....

The one of her looking over her shoulder in a dress and boots is one of the worst photos I’ve seen of her and no way should she have paid for it!!

And why didn’t sometime tell Yawn that her dress would show a bit too much in that video??

I think her photographer is awful

I think she's awful too...

One of those photos of Yawn is reminiscent of Roomie’s Dallas masterpiece: Arse in the Mirror. This time, the crack is clearly visible, but it’s not in the mirror! 🙈

Oh dear. Not a very flattering view.

I had to look twice and then check the boots in another picture, as my first thought was that her knicker elastic had popped!

To me, the boots look like those fold-down wellies that comedian Jimmy Cricket used to wear (showing my age now 😳 )

Just catching up on new fred thanks and cross referencing with fb. I was howling at headbands party. Women crammed into what looked like a hallway all simultaneously knocking back the gloop shots. The photo taken at the precise moment it hits the lips rather than the gagging which no doubt followed. Loved the half bowl of crisps and deffo the remnants of the Christmas choc tins which nobody ate 😀

The Success Day in Innsbruck, which Bloodsucker and Scamopolpus were invited to, was soooo much better attended than any UK one

How can Yawn give advice about job interviews? She's not been in paid employment for years!

Ridiculous

"I came to you broken & destroyed from Toxic behaviour in my other business & I needed a backup plan FAST".

Is interesting to read the reviews from a client on photoshoot bot's Insta. I am sure the version of events that this client gives her own clients is that she was planning the manifesting coaching business for ages until the time was right and she is triumphant in the face of unspecified former friends who are simply jealous.

During last week I see Headband was nursing her child who has been ill despite imbibing the elixir of wellness in industrial quantities. She has been able to do this because she is essentially unemployed has flexibility thanks to the opportunity she said yes to 11 year ago.

There is no need to worry about time off, calling in sick or losing money she says. Presumably this is because there is no one to call and no money to lose simply because she is a bit more hands off for a couple of days. She wants to worry about the money she haemorrhages once she starts focussing on FLP.

While she is saying all this about flexibility and money and freedom to care for her child I am wondering how that would apply when there is a command to be on Zoom all evening or lose most of a weekend to a Success Day (where there is pressure to show up at her own cost) if her partner wasn’t available?

If only she priced up her time. Time freedom, what is that exactly? It looks very much like unpaid time while not working which isn’t really an unusual concept. I suppose that she sees herself as earning money while she is doing other things but where is the money rolling in from? Her team of transient and seemingly vulnerable women who will struggle to be a product of the product before disappearing having damaged far more than their finances?

Has she ever subtracted those alleged earnings from what she is spending, to be a product of the product and on the expenses of attending Success Days etc? No, she hasn’t, because if anyone was to approach her and tentatively suggest 5 minutes with a calculator and a dose of reality she’d go into full positivity aggressive mode. The same mode she uses to get people to sign up. After 11 years she must have some inkling that the opportunity she is promoting is nothing of the sort?

@YouOKHun it's interesting too that the same source celebrates their client as having 100 members in January (wasn't the goal 1000 by then?)

Even if all members are fully paid up it's only a couple of thousand more than a 40 hour week of minimum wage (£12.21 come 4/25) , but with this you'd receive holidays and pension contributions.

25% commission on the planty patches won't save the day either. I really don't see how she is going to dig herself out of this financial hole without a J.O.B.

Brace yourselves bot watchers .....Castle is making a big announcement tomorrow.

Rinse and repeat....

All these big announcements become meaningless, they've done it so many times..

Juice Plus - remember them? They used to be everywhere but seem now to be in trouble despite the best efforts of my local osteopath who was a huge recruiter for JP (hidden from view in the U.K.), using his conspiracy theories, antivax and pro-Wakling anti child vaccination ideas to scare people into signing up to JP. I saw this on the JP website and thought that they make an interesting confession about what MLM is (even though they’re claiming not to be part of it). Apparently it’s still possible to get trapped by their autoship but thankfully far fewer people are bothering.

No photos on MN again I see. This is what JP says about MLM in an attempt to distance themselves.

‘Is Juice Plus and MLM?

No. MLMs’ primary focus is ‘recruiting” people to sell their products. The Juice Plus Company’s prime focus is on sharing our products with consumers’.

BTW they report that in 2022 their turnover was £43,411k decreasing in 2023 to £27,562k.